jw1739 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, KSK_47 said: I didn't bother signing up to city voice because i waste enough time on here as it is and i (perhaps misguidedly) suspect CFG would monitoring this forum anyway, but what was the general feel on city voice prior to deletegate? The facebook comments are almost always overwhelmingly positive (possibly because negative ones are deleted too). Was there a lot of negativity on city voice? City Voice is moribund, even Version 2. There are a handful of posters, that's all. They club wants to keep it to "off-field match-day experience" stuff; sometimes you'll get an answer, but sometimes not. I don't know really what they're trying to get from people on "match-day experience" - there's a limit to how many times people will bother to answer the same questions repeated over and over again. The deletions do show that the comments are being read and you do get to do the surveys. Although the latter are perhaps not worth doing because we haven't seen any conclusions drawn from a single survey yet. I'd say it's something that seemed like a good idea at the time but isn't going to be of any value the way it's being run. Apologies for being negative on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Maybe we should write about how our off-field match day experience is ruined everytime we look at the coaching bench 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, jw1739 said: City Voice is moribund, even Version 2. There are a handful of posters, that's all. They club wants to keep it to "off-field match-day experience" stuff; sometimes you'll get an answer, but sometimes not. I don't know really what they're trying to get from people on "match-day experience" - there's a limit to how many times people will bother to answer the same questions repeated over and over again. The deletions do show that the comments are being read and you do get to do the surveys. Although the latter are perhaps not worth doing because we haven't seen any conclusions drawn from a single survey yet. I'd say it's something that seemed like a good idea at the time but isn't going to be of any value the way it's being run. Apologies for being negative on it. No apologies needed man. I know what this club is like. The fact that, what could have been a very good idea has been so poorly implemented its become another shining example of mediocrity does not surprise me in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 46 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Only it's a QUALITY POST though I thought you said you were going to start being nice from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, hedaik said: I thought you said you were going to start being nice from now on Even the most pius amongst us stumble from time to time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KautoStar1 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Has he not been sacked yet? Edited April 29, 2016 by KautoStar1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 Thursday 10am can't come any sooner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He was at the npl game today watching the boys play. Didn't look like a guy about to lose his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I don't follow sackings regularly. Do clubs sometimes wait till after the Grand Final? Seems strange if they were going to sack him that it hasn't happened already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Its still quite possible that they havent told him yet. But we have had three people ( who could have the same source inside the club for all I know) @AntiScum @Heart of Melbourne and @kingofhearts whom have all posted that they have had it confirmed to them that JVS is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandangalo Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I love Survivor, so I am very partial to a good blindside. JvS, the tribe has spoken! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 3 hours ago, n i k o said: He was at the npl game today watching the boys play. Didn't look like a guy about to lose his job. Ffs. I just dont get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 FWIW I now think he will be coach next season. I suspect that, overall, he just scraped past the absolute minimum performance level acceptable to CFG. But it must have been close. I'm now more interested in what sort of squad we'll end up with - obviously - but also who are appointed as assistant coaches and whether we're going to see JvS' likely successor in that role. The departures of Jolic and Trani came as a surprise to me. On the coaching front I'm also interested in whether the club will keep Joey Didulica; he can't be in CFG's good books with a seven-match suspension on his record. Lots to keep us interested during the next 5 months or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Ffs. I just dont get it. My feeling exactly. Why, how is he keeping his job?!... So infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Ffs. I just dont get it. It sends a fairly poor message if the city group are willing to continue on with a manger that had arguably one of the best squads at his disposal and all he could manage was 4th and two disappointing semi final exits! Just feel CFG lack ambition keeping jvs on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, jw1739 said: FWIW I now think he will be coach next season. I suspect that, overall, he just scraped past the absolute minimum performance level acceptable to CFG. But it must have been close. I'm now more interested in what sort of squad we'll end up with - obviously - but also who are appointed as assistant coaches and whether we're going to see JvS' likely successor in that role. The departures of Jolic and Trani came as a surprise to me. On the coaching front I'm also interested in whether the club will keep Joey Didulica; he can't be in CFG's good books with a seven-match suspension on his record. Lots to keep us interested during the next 5 months or so. No surprises Trani and Jolic are gone what so ever. New coach who will bring his own people in. Jolic left to go back to Sydney but he was sick of the commute but could of stayed should he have wanted to but knowing a new coach is on the way in he knew his job was gone. I would be very surprised if JD was still there come the end of season review is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 If JVS and JD leave we'll win the league next season 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He also might not have been told yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 hours ago, Dylan said: He also might not have been told yet. Absolutely. Looks to me that the club is getting out of the way the minor calls first before it moves onto the big fish. So far it's all just speculation about Mooy, Fornaroli, Novillo and JvS. Nothing official yet from the club. Whether that's because they're still negotiating or they haven't finalised their decisions yet, I suspect we'll start hearing things very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 There's a story just come out over here that Pellegrini has turned down a variety of job offers because he wants to keep managing in England. Part of that story says that CFG tried to persuade him to stay within the organisation, and offered him a managerial position in Melbourne and New York. It's by no means any sort of proof, but it does suggest that they're willing to put an end to JVS' reign. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Not having any experience in sports administration my question would be how long will it take to complete the performance review of the club administration? I would imagine that CFG would be reviewing not only JVS's performance but also recruiting, injury management, etc. The other question is whether CFG would send people over from Europe to conduct the review and if so when they would be expected to arrive in Melbourne and how long they would expect the review to last. A professional organisation would conduct a thorough review of the whole operations before moving to make changes. So far we have had Jolic resign, some players released and only Trani "sacked". The release of those players would have happened anyway regardless of who was coaching next season and it gives them time to start hawking themselves about. The "sacking" of Trani is a mystery to me. So I would expect another fortnight before any serious announcements are made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommac Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Falastur said: There's a story just come out over here that Pellegrini has turned down a variety of job offers because he wants to keep managing in England. Part of that story says that CFG tried to persuade him to stay within the organisation, and offered him a managerial position in Melbourne and New York. It's by no means any sort of proof, but it does suggest that they're willing to put an end to JVS' reign. I've been hoping for that to happen since they announced Pellegini was leaving Man City. Hopefully nothing comes up in England and he wants to come to Australia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfc_10 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manuel-pellegrini-rejects-chance-stay-7870295 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just been told his a 0% chance of getting the sack... is on 750k a year and they won't pay that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Just been told his a 0% chance of getting the sack... is on 750k a year and they won't pay that out Who told you that? JVS I hope. If it's true then they may as well save money on recruitment as well and just play youth players next season. I can save money on a season ticket too Edited May 1, 2016 by belaguttman 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just now, belaguttman said: Who told you that? JVS I hope. If it's true then they may as well save money on recruitment as well and just play youth players next season. Wish it was JVS. Ray Gatt told me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 As Adelaide have shown us it's saves more money to recruit a coach who can create a star team that spend top dollars recruiting a team full of stars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Andrew Edmonds said: is on 750k a year and they won't pay that out Lol. Wow! This fucking club eh? Oh well I have spent too many years worrying about the idiotic decisions this club has made over the years. I thought it would be different under City, but obviously not. To give a coach with a 30% win record an ironclad 3 year contract worth 750k a year is just insane. Hopefully they can work out a way to make it work with him still in charge but I am way too exhausted by this whole saga to give a shit any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Just been told his a 0% chance of getting the sack... is on 750k a year and they won't pay that out Coaches are never paid out in full they always come to an "agreement" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 hours ago, NewConvert said: Not having any experience in sports administration my question would be how long will it take to complete the performance review of the club administration? I would imagine that CFG would be reviewing not only JVS's performance but also recruiting, injury management, etc. The other question is whether CFG would send people over from Europe to conduct the review and if so when they would be expected to arrive in Melbourne and how long they would expect the review to last. A professional organisation would conduct a thorough review of the whole operations before moving to make changes. So far we have had Jolic resign, some players released and only Trani "sacked". The release of those players would have happened anyway regardless of who was coaching next season and it gives them time to start hawking themselves about. The "sacking" of Trani is a mystery to me. So I would expect another fortnight before any serious announcements are made. CFG have there own people down here overseaing everything and reporting to the head knobs in the UK from admin coaching team day to day running ...... If you saw Trani on matchdays barking out orders says alot about JVS. No mystery what so ever he knew his job was gone and knew JVS wouldnt be around next season!! 750k to CFG is back pocket change they will balance the loss one way or another 2 hours ago, tommac said: I've been hoping for that to happen since they announced Pellegini was leaving Man City. Hopefully nothing comes up in England and he wants to come to Australia! Will most likely end up in Italy if he cant find a job in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 36 minutes ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Wish it was JVS. Ray Gatt told me. I'm surprised Ray Gatt has heard of Melbourne City. I suppose they've played the 2 Sydney teams so it would appear on the radar occasionally. I can't imagine that he'd have any inside contacts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knutty Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 They'd lose far more money if they let him blow another season!!! If NYCFC,MCFC get replacements then ours is surely due? If for some unbelievable reason they don't sack him then I hope they try make the best of a shit situation and bring in some real quality assistant managers to baby sit him. Possibly even one of the assistants being the new manager in waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Next week is going to be torture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 9 minutes ago, belaguttman said: I'm surprised Ray Gatt has heard of Melbourne City. I suppose they've played the 2 Sydney teams so it would appear on the radar occasionally. I can't imagine that he'd have any inside contacts. Must have someone inside.. broke the Villa fiasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 The opportunity cost in missing ACL qualification is greater than $750k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Dylan said: Next week is going to be torture go out have a drink chill and wait for it to unfold :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illeatyourheart Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, AntiScum said: go out have a drink chill and wait for it to unfold 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, AntiScum said: go out have a drink chill and wait for it to unfold You must be supremely confident, you haven't backed off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dylan said: You must be supremely confident, you haven't backed off my sauce has very rarely let me down!! Edited May 1, 2016 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Can't there be performance targets in a contract? If you don't meet x we can fire you no payout etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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