TTIM: Things That Irk Me

[Tesla]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

I know two English people who voted to leave and they did it to "keep the Pakis (muslims) out"

The Pakis who are 4th generation, born in Bradford, and UK citizens?

I think that ship sailed a while ago.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Tesla

[NewConvert]

59 minutes ago, Tesla said:

No, I don't bet on politics, and if I did I wouldn't vote on the favourite.

The EU just pisses me off, they completely deserve the consequences of the Brexit.

I've had enough of the EU. I've had enough of NATO. I've had enough of US influence over Europe. So seeing Western Europe fracture like this is a TTDIM.

Plus the English have a right to peruse their own English agenda as jw says, rather than propping up bankrupt countries and letting Europe dictate to them their laws and policies.

At the end of the day, a country has exercised it's democratic rights, now the UK and the EU will have to deal with the consequences. Will be interesting to see if Scotland goes for independence now, I think they will. Maybe the English fucked up, and there will be negative consequences, we'll see what happens. One thing is for sure, EU will lose more than the English will.

PS I think this is a good thing for Australia, we'll probably take some of the access the EU has to the UK market.

Ok - I get it. The EU pisses you off and they deserve all that is coming to the them. The Brits piss you off for being stupid enough to vote to leave the EU and losing their jobs because of it - they deserve all that is coming to them.

What time are we invading Poland?

[Tesla]

36 minutes ago, NewConvert said:

Ok - I get it. The EU pisses you off and they deserve all that is coming to the them. The Brits piss you off for being stupid enough to vote to leave the EU and losing their jobs because of it - they deserve all that is coming to them.

What time are we invading Poland?

I've calmed down a bit from earlier, I was just a bit hyped up about the result,  I was worried about the economic fallout this whole time and after seeings its not the end of the world I think I realised how much I actually wanted to see this happen.

First of all I think the EU is broken. It's great in theory, but in practise it hasn't been so great. There is something there, something positive, and the general idea is good, but I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. It was never designed to be this big, so there are issues relating to that, and the GFC showed there are problems with it in regard to economics and really the EU should be an economic union above all else. So if the Brexit leads to a rethinking of the EU, or a collapse of the EU (there will undoubtedly be a successor to the EU if it collapses so it will basically just be a rethink of the EU), it's a good thing.

As for the UK, they never really seemed to want to be part of the EU. They always wanted special rules etc. I also don't think they were able to embrace or identify with a European identity like people in continental Europe are able to. It was probably never going to work. Also the UK economy relies on London, and what London needs is to rid itself of European socialist regulations.

In the long run, this is the best result for all parties. In the short run, there will be negative consequences for both.

As for Eastern Europe, I don't like the EU being used as a political tool to counter Russian influence. That's what NATO is for, not the EU. And I don't like Eastern European nations being forced to jump through hoops to get access to either of these institutions, it's pretty fucked up if you ask me. So yes, I do take some joy in the EU's demise in that regard.

And yes, I don't mind the UK suffering some unintended consequences in the short term too, nothing against the British but if they're going to fuck over the world's financial markets because of their decision, costing some people a lot of money, then they can get fucked and suffer some consequences as well. In the long run they'll come off better so it's not a big deal.

 

Edited June 24, 2016 by Tesla

[Shahanga]

I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the best economic move for the UK in the medium to long term. Short term though I can see a lot of pain.

As for older people voting for it, well unlike the younger ones they know there is an alternative and that it is possible to have life without being in the EU, so perhaps that's a reason?

[Tesla]

23 minutes ago, Shahanga said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be the best economic move for the UK in the medium to long term. Short term though I can see a lot of pain.

As for older people voting for it, well unlike the younger ones they know there is an alternative and that it is possible to have life without being in the EU, so perhaps that's a reason?

Let's be honest, older people are generally just more against multiculturalism and thats why they have a higher proportion voting for a Brexit.

younger people have grown up in a more multicultural society and so they know it's not something to be afraid of.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Tesla

[Shahanga]

1 minute ago, Tesla said:

Let's be honest, older people are generally just more against multiculturalism and thats why they have a higher proportion voting for a Brexit.

younger people have grown up in a more multicultural society and so they know it's not something to be afraid of.

But is that why people voted against it? To be honest I don't know. Didn't bother looking into it because it clearly wasn't a decision for Australia.

Just because someone says "only racists support leaving" doesn't make it true.

[Tesla]

Just now, Shahanga said:

But is that why people voted against it? To be honest I don't know. Didn't bother looking into it because it clearly wasn't a decision for Australia.

Just because someone says "only racists support leaving" doesn't make it true.

I think it had some influence on the result for sure. There would have been other factors as well of course, eg perhaps some lingering anti-German sentiments from the older generations, younger people more inclined to travel and enjoy the benefits of EU citizenship, etc.

I agree, it doesn't mean someone is racist if they support a Brexit, but those who think less favourably of multiculturalism would be voting for a Brexit. Who knows how many they number, but my general experience is that usually there are a lot more people in society that lean that way then you would think, as they generally keep it quiet.

[NewConvert]

53 minutes ago, Tesla said:

I've calmed down a bit from earlier, I was just a bit hyped up about the result,  I was worried about the economic fallout this whole time and after seeings its not the end of the world I think I realised how much I actually wanted to see this happen.

First of all I think the EU is broken. It's great in theory, but in practise it hasn't been so great. There is something there, something positive, and the general idea is good, but I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. It was never designed to be this big, so there are issues relating to that, and the GFC showed there are problems with it in regard to economics and really the EU should be an economic union above all else. So if the Brexit leads to a rethinking of the EU, or a collapse of the EU (there will undoubtedly be a successor to the EU if it collapses so it will basically just be a rethink of the EU), it's a good thing.

As for the UK, they never really seemed to want to be part of the EU. They always wanted special rules etc. I also don't think they were able to embrace or identify with a European identity like people in continental Europe are able to. It was probably never going to work. Also the UK economy relies on London, and what London needs is to rid itself of European socialist regulations.

In the long run, this is the best result for all parties. In the short run, there will be negative consequences for both.

As for Eastern Europe, I don't like the EU being used as a political tool to counter Russian influence. That's what NATO is for, not the EU. And I don't like Eastern European nations being forced to jump through hoops to get access to either of these institutions, it's pretty fucked up if you ask me. So yes, I do take some joy in the EU's demise in that regard.

And yes, I don't mind the UK suffering some unintended consequences in the short term too, nothing against the British but if they're going to fuck over the world's financial markets because of their decision, costing some people a lot of money, then they can get fucked and suffer some consequences as well. In the long run they'll come off better so it's not a big deal.

 

I agree that the EU is broken but I don't think that is a unique case - the USA has recovered better than the EU after the GFC but neither has been capable of rising above. A few months ago I saw a GDP chart showing the effect of the Great Depression in Europe vs the GFC and the latter was not as deep but has lasted longer so the loss of income has been greater. As The Economist magazine put it (IIRC in October 2008) "It wasn't meant to be like this".

For me the biggest mistake was the creation of the Euro without creating a common tax and banking system. A common taxation system would be have allowed the money transfers that underpin economies like Australia and the USA which have a similarly large area with different economic profiles. A common banking system would have allowed the Bundesbank to ensure that stupid loans would not have been made in PIIGS.

The rationalisation of their transport and communications is a good thing - after all that is what Oz/USA do. The single market for labour was wrong. The Economist reported that when Poland joined the EU, most European countries prevented for a full five years from free migration. The UK did not because Treasury's estimate was for 13,000 people to immigrate from Poland - within two years 400,000 people had moved to the UK. Stupidly, when the monetary union was agreed the first step was to make the currencies fall within a set range of values and then they would converge on the Euro. As it turned out the same principle should have been applied to human movement - when the standard of living had converged and democratic norms had converged then people should have been allowed to move freely.

Now Keynes writing about 1900 when travelling in Italy noted that the open borders had allowed him to travel extensively and purchase goods from all over the continent. He did not realise that about a decade later WW1 would begin and usher a period of protectionism. When you say that a collapse would be good, I am suspicious.

As for the Brits they, like the Americans, suffer from the conceit of manifest destiny. Now when you mention that the british economy relies on London and they need to get rid of the socialist regulation. Nah. The City is a financial centre (perfect for Russian money laundering) and those regulations are international such as Bessel III. The City relies in being an English speaking country that is well connected globally. The reason why London and specially the City voted for remain is that there is a real risk that international corporations will begin to downgrade their operations there and move them to Frankfurt or Paris.

What bothers me is that the unintended consequences could well be dangerous. If the UK suffers greater unemployment, lower GDP and that is it - then fine, they voted for it. But if it disentangles the EU then the consequences could be dire, just like a century ago.

NATO is for military campaigns, not diplomacy. Diplomacy remains the purview of the foreign affairs ministries in respective countries. You mention that you don't like that Eastern European countries have to jump through hoops to join either the EU or NATO. Well, the EU had set rules for which all member countries had to converge on prior to joining. The major difference was that the original countries (as well as spain, portugal) had many more years to get there and they contributed to the making of the rules. The new members had less say. And in any case they wanted to join - that was their choice. As for NATO, well that was a different issue because the armies had to converge and the risk of triggering Russia was much greater. And indeed that is what happened in the Ukraine. As far as I am concerned, Eastern Europe will be always be an area of influence for the Russians and as such the West should have told those countries that they will trade with them but will not overrule or interfere with Russian foreign policy. They are not worth a hot war.

And on the subject of Eastern European countries, what aren't we invading Poland now????

[sheepdog]

TTIM: might have been said before I dunno, when you get your pie or sausage roll in the morning and the sauce satchel doesn't squirt when you squeeze it.

That fucking shits me.

 

[jw1739]

TTIM: The paper cut on your finger that doesn't heal for at least two weeks.

[Jimmy]

TTIM: No longer being a 60kg 16 year old state level swimmer. Hauling my 100kg fat ass up and down the pool is fucking shit.

[NewConvert]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

TTIM: No longer being a 60kg 16 year old state level swimmer. Hauling my 100kg fat ass up and down the pool is fucking shit.

Ahh, yes. Rememeber what you use to think of the 100kg fat asses in the pool...

[Tesla]

1 hour ago, Jimmy said:

TTIM: No longer being a 60kg 16 year old state level swimmer. Hauling my 100kg fat ass up and down the pool is fucking shit.

Yes, we all know geting older is shit. Your quater life crisis will probably hit in a year or two.

[thisphantomfortress]

17 minutes ago, Tesla said:

Yes, we all know geting older is shit. Your quater life crisis will probably hit in a year or two.

Youll end up doing something really stupid like quiting your job and buying a one way flight to Brazil

[cadete]

18 minutes ago, Tesla said:

Yes, we all know geting older is shit. Your quater life crisis will probably hit in a year or two.

Or he could hit up your Gym Rats Thread for some helpful tips on how to get back in shape...

[Tesla]

1 hour ago, thisphantomfortress said:

Youll end up doing something really stupid like quiting your job and buying a one way flight to Brazil

Turn that quater life crisis into an end of life crisis.

[thisphantomfortress]

2 minutes ago, Tesla said:

Turn that quater life crisis into an end of life crisis.

So my mother thinks. I just told her I'm a Veteran of the Melbourne clubbing scene I've been training for what SA has to offer for years

[Tesla]

2 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said:

So my mother thinks. I just told her I'm a Veteran of the Melbourne clubbing scene I've been training for what SA has to offer for years

http://www.liveleak.com

[hedaik]

3 hours ago, Jimmy said:

TTIM: No longer being a 60kg 16 year old state level swimmer. Hauling my 100kg fat ass up and down the pool is fucking shit.

Is it possible to wear headphones for music under the water reliably yet? Swimming laps has to be the most boring sport to participate in. 

[Jimmy]

12 minutes ago, hedaik said:

Is it possible to wear headphones for music under the water reliably yet? Swimming laps has to be the most boring sport to participate in. 

Never tried or seen anyone wearing headphones. I struggled with them when I used to run, can't imagine keeping them in while swimming without some duck tape.

Tbh I always loved the repetition of it, you can hit a sweet rhythm and can just zone out and be with your own thoughts for a while. Focusing on keeping perfect technique is also pretty engaging; or you can be like me and spend the whole time arguing with yourself about how many laps you've done.

[HeartFc]

Im very anti-earsphones. 

It starts with regular earphones, then those gay DJ headphones, then gloves, then a protein shaker, then DYE hoodies, then screaming halfway through sets, then gym bros (no homo), then bros turns into an "aesthetics crew", then I realise I need to jump on the gas to keep up with "Lance" and "Jake", then I get an insta account dedicated to my delts, then someone disses me on bbforums misc. for having a small chest, then I up my cycle, then I tear a bicep doing quadruple supersets, then I get fat, pimples and chicken legs, then I stop getting matches on tinder, then I cry, start watching Beauty & The Geek re-runs, stare into the mirror every night @ 3am, then I imagine I kill myself. 

Earphones kill.

 

Edited June 29, 2016 by HeartFc

[Hackett]

7 hours ago, HeartFc said:

Im very anti-earsphones. 

It starts with regular earphones, then those gay DJ headphones, then gloves, then a protein shaker, then DYE hoodies, then screaming halfway through sets, then gym bros (no homo), then bros turns into an "aesthetics crew", then I realise I need to jump on the gas to keep up with "Lance" and "Jake", then I get an insta account dedicated to my delts, then someone disses me on bbforums misc. for having a small chest, then I up my cycle, then I tear a bicep doing quadruple supersets, then I get fat, pimples and chicken legs, then I stop getting matches on tinder, then I cry, start watching Beauty & The Geek re-runs, stare into the mirror every night @ 3am, then I imagine I kill myself. 

Earphones kill.

 

Strong post.

[cadete]

Fuck me HeartFc has been killing if of late, that was a masterpiece.

 

[kingofhearts]

TTIM: Going to the dentist.

It has to be done but fuck it sucks getting shit shoved in you mouth for 30 -40 minutes. Also stopping the urge to swallow is hard too lol.

[n i k o]

36 minutes ago, kingofhearts said:

TTIM: Going to the dentist.

It has to be done but fuck it sucks getting shit shoved in you mouth for 30 -40 minutes. Also stopping the urge to swallow is hard too lol.

Pretty sure strider lurks these parts of the forum, I'd watch out using that language around him. 

[kingofhearts]

19 hours ago, n i k o said:

Pretty sure strider lurks these parts of the forum, I'd watch out using that language around him. 

lol i can see your point

20 hours ago, kingofhearts said:

TTIM: Going on a date with strider

It has to be done but fuck it sucks getting shit shoved in you mouth for 30 -40 minutes. Also stopping the urge to swallow is hard too lol.

 

[Jovan]

Wind.

[GreenSeater]

TTIM: Forum being down all day. Made my shitty Monday even shittier.

[kingofhearts]

4 minutes ago, GreenSeater said:

TTIM: Forum being down all day. Made my shitty Monday even shittier.

It's hard remembering my purpose in life when the forums down tbh

[pm37]

21 minutes ago, GreenSeater said:

TTIM: Forum being down all day. Made my shitty Monday even shittier.

Yeah makes for a very very long work day

[thisphantomfortress]

43 minutes ago, pm37 said:

Yeah makes for a very very long work day

I was so productive, it was sickening 

[Tesla]

TTIM : How excruciatingly bad at driving most people who are on the roads during business hours are. Honestly if you're scared of driving then do everyone (especially yourself) a favour and just get off the road. People driving like 20 km under the limit, coming to an almost complete stop when turning, etc. It's like 90% of drivers at this time whereas at other times its maybe only 40%.

I don't know why it's so bad during business hours, maybe cause all the stay at home mums are on the roads (the stereotype about female drivers is true, sorry PC brigade), and/or cause all the pensioners are on the road (yeah old people are bad at driving too), and/or maybe people who are scared of driving will only drive at these times as there is less traffic/stress.

[jw1739]

PI comment I know but IMO it's les femmes in 4WDs taking/picking-up little Chloe and Troy to/from school that are the main cause. The traffic never recovers from the morning chaos during term time. Driving in school holidays is a pleasure compared with term time.

[n i k o]

2 hours ago, Tesla said:

TTIM : How excruciatingly bad at driving most people who are on the roads during business hours are. Honestly if you're scared of driving then do everyone (especially yourself) a favour and just get off the road. People driving like 20 km under the limit, coming to an almost complete stop when turning, etc. It's like 90% of drivers at this time whereas at other times its maybe only 40%.

I don't know why it's so bad during business hours, maybe cause all the stay at home mums are on the roads (the stereotype about female drivers is true, sorry PC brigade), and/or cause all the pensioners are on the road (yeah old people are bad at driving too), and/or maybe people who are scared of driving will only drive at these times as there is less traffic/stress.

Van Badham would be outraged by your mysogynistic comments. 

Edited July 14, 2016 by n i k o

[cadete]

3 hours ago, Tesla said:

TTIM : How excruciatingly bad at driving most people who are on the roads during business hours are. Honestly if you're scared of driving then do everyone (especially yourself) a favour and just get off the road. People driving like 20 km under the limit, coming to an almost complete stop when turning, etc. It's like 90% of drivers at this time whereas at other times its maybe only 40%.

I don't know why it's so bad during business hours, maybe cause all the stay at home mums are on the roads (the stereotype about female drivers is true, sorry PC brigade), and/or cause all the pensioners are on the road (yeah old people are bad at driving too), and/or maybe people who are scared of driving will only drive at these times as there is less traffic/stress.

Um, did you not write off your Astra a few years back?

Edited July 14, 2016 by cadete

[Tesla]

54 minutes ago, cadete said:

Um, did you not write off your Astra a few years back?

Yeah, someone drove into the back of me (so not my fault) and the payout was $5k higher than I bought the car for

Think I only had it for about 5 months, so thats $1k a month profit. GOAT car.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Tesla

[cadete]

13 hours ago, Tesla said:

Yeah, someone drove into the back of me (so not my fault) and the payout was $5k higher than I bought the car for

Think I only had it for about 5 months, so thats $1k a month profit. GOAT car.

Was it also bright orange?

[hedaik]

16 hours ago, Tesla said:

Yeah, someone drove into the back of me (so not my fault) and the payout was $5k higher than I bought the car for

Think I only had it for about 5 months, so thats $1k a month profit. GOAT car.

Thats even better than my car profiteering story. A non-male t-boned my car, her insurance company said they'd give me 4k and return the car back to me so I can do what I want with it, got a neighbour who owned a panelbeating business to fix my car up to be roadworthy again for $600. Sold it a year later for 1k. 

Edited July 15, 2016 by hedaik

[kingofhearts]

TTIM: Whatever the fuck this douchenozzle is wearing

[n i k o]

26 minutes ago, kingofhearts said:

TTIM: Whatever the fuck this douchenozzle is wearing

@strider. That you?