Shahanga Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 This guy’s mum is no doubt missing him. why don’t we do the right thing and send him home early for Christmas (& he can stay for Easter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Shahanga said: This guy’s mum is no doubt missing him. why don’t we do the right thing and send him home early for Christmas (& he can stay for Easter) I genuinely feel sorry for him. He's walked into an imploding club on the other side of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, fensaddler said: I genuinely feel sorry for him. He's walked into an imploding club on the other side of the world. I would rather be in Australia for summer then Poland in winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 44 minutes ago, fensaddler said: I genuinely feel sorry for him. He's walked into an imploding club on the other side of the world. And is also being played out of position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Unfortunately he doesn’t seem to fit in with Joyce’s style. Move him on in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Serious question. If Budzinksi goes in January (which he wont), where do we need a marquee the most? I would say a genuine #10. What will that mean for Caruscca? Well nothing because hes stuck in the black hole, split of time and space which is the injury duration of a Germano Edited December 2, 2017 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, haz said: Serious question. If Budzinksi goes in January (which he wont), where do we need a marquee the most? I would say a genuine #10. What will that mean for Caruscca? Well nothing because hes stuck in the black hole, split of time and space which is the injury duration of a Germano I said a little while ago, i wouldn't be surprised if we let him go and hold onto McCormack. Then perhaps look at some sort of 4-4-2 or whatever where Bruno sits just behind Ross. My thoughts anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, rass said: I said a little while ago, i wouldn't be surprised if we let him go and hold onto McCormack. Then perhaps look at some sort of 4-4-2 or whatever where Bruno sits just behind Ross. My thoughts anyway. Still a bit concerned how Bruno, Timmy, and Ross would fit in a team... if it works then we win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, haz said: Still a bit concerned how Bruno, Timmy, and Ross would fit in a team... if it works then we win the league. Yep. One (Cahill) would always be a sub, giving us real striker depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, haz said: Serious question. If Budzinksi goes in January (which he wont), where do we need a marquee the most? I would say a genuine #10. What will that mean for Caruscca? Well nothing because hes stuck in the black hole, split of time and space which is the injury duration of a Germano Could do worse than try to get hold of a guy called Erhun Oztumer, scoring for fun playing for my home town club, Walsall, in English League 1. Genuine attacking, creative 10, rate him very highly, and likely to leave at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 someone has to put their hand up for this signing .... what a schmozzle A visa Marquee should be one of the first to be pencilled into the team sheet On the bench , didn't get a run I know he scored the cracker in the Derby, but seriously, what has he done since .... gone missing for most of the time he is on the field. I've heard the argument that he is being played out of position... My view: a Visa Marquee should be able to impose them self on a match regardless of where they are being played ... this is reminding me of the Max Beister signing for Victory last year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 02/12/2017 at 10:41 PM, haz said: Still a bit concerned how Bruno, Timmy, and Ross would fit in a team... if it works then we win the league. timeless post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, japiedog said: someone has to put their hand up for this signing .... what a schmozzle A visa Marquee should be one of the first to be pencilled into the team sheet On the bench , didn't get a run I know he scored the cracker in the Derby, but seriously, what has he done since .... gone missing for most of the time he is on the field. I've heard the argument that he is being played out of position... My view: a Visa Marquee should be able to impose them self on a match regardless of where they are being played ... this is reminding me of the Max Beister signing for Victory last year It's definitely a whiff for the club, he'd be a disappointment even as standard VISA player let alone a marquee. For all our successful recruiting in general, we've normally carried a pretty poor Marquee; Koren, Colazo and now Budzinski. To be fair, he definitely wasn't our first (or seemingly second) choice for that role but I just don't see how our scouts/recruitment department would have seen him fitting into this system if they'd watched enough of him. Would like to see us cut him in January and use his spot to keep Ross. Edited December 10, 2017 by Embee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 To my eyes, this guy has been our worst bust yet and we have some beauties. Bar that Victory goal, we seem significantly worse when he is on the pitch - has been extremely unimpressive with very poor touch and control, and basically we seem to play like a 10 v 11 with him on the pitch. Hopefully we can offload him in Jan, and Wazza can get someone who fits into his system. With Bruno coming back, as long as we are in touch with Syd at the turn we are still a massive show for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I can accept that he's been often played out of position but it's his decision making and first touch as well as his first 5m acceleration that concern me the most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, Embee said: It's definitely a whiff for the club, he'd be a disappointment even as standard VISA player let alone a marquee. For all our successful recruiting in general, we've normally carried a pretty poor Marquee; Koren, Colazo and now Budzinski. To be fair, he definitely wasn't our first (or seemingly second) choice for that role but I just don't see how our scouts/recruitment department would have seen him fitting into this system if they'd watched enough of him. Would like to see us cut him in January and use his spot to keep Ross. I know that he was a "last man standing" choice, but it is his performance( or lack of) that is frustrating. You'd hardly be happy with his performance from a "squad player" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 He needs to start if he is fit as he is on a 2 year deal. From memory neither Casto nor Ninkovic did much in the first half of their first season so you need to be very careful we don't lose a potential match winner by not being patient. He needs to start games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, playmaker said: He needs to start if he is fit as he is on a 2 year deal. From memory neither Casto nor Ninkovic did much in the first half of their first season so you need to be very careful we don't lose a potential match winner by not being patient. He needs to start games. fair enough , I'll keep that in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Based on what we've seen so far, with Cahill particularly in mind, he won't start until Joyce thinks he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Based on what we've seen so far, with Cahill particularly in mind, he won't start until Joyce thinks he should. Agree, from what I have observed, he is just a step behind from being a very good player. That extra touch and indecision is what makes him look sloppy and usually it is caused by a lack of chemistry and understanding of the other player's movements. If you noticed Ross in the last few games, he has really improved his link up play and is less clunky with the ball, and atm his main issue is the quality of the supply he is receiving which are out of phase with his runs. Potentially Bud and Ross/Bruno could be dynamite together, they just need to be on the pitch at the same time. Edited December 11, 2017 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think what has magnified it is his title as marquee. Don't know the guy from a bar of soap but I think he's felt the expectation of having to play like a 'marquee' player from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, playmaker said: He needs to start if he is fit as he is on a 2 year deal. From memory neither Casto nor Ninkovic did much in the first half of their first season so you need to be very careful we don't lose a potential match winner by not being patient. He needs to start games. He needs to start if the problem is that the team just don't yet know how to work with him, understand his runs etc. The problem as I see it is that he's physically slow but also his decision making is poor and his touch is poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM3 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Am I the only one that saw this thread was 'hot' and assumed we got rid of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, CDM3 said: Am I the only one that saw this thread was 'hot' and assumed we got rid of him? wishful thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 So we're writing a player off after 365 minutes match time? Because he carries the label "marquee" and in our opinion doesn't live up to that label? A bit premature I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 45 minutes ago, jw1739 said: So we're writing a player off after 365 minutes match time? Because he carries the label "marquee" and in our opinion doesn't live up to that label? A bit premature I'd say. Definitely. the big problem is though that he seems to me that Wazza doesn’t like or need his style of player, that is an attacking midfielder who rests when the other team has the ball. That being the case, why did we sign him? It makes no sense. Have to say I’m very puzzled by the whole thing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Shahanga said: Definitely. the big problem is though that he seems to me that Wazza doesn’t like or need his style of player, that is an attacking midfielder who rests when the other team has the ball. That being the case, why did we sign him? It makes no sense. Have to say I’m very puzzled by the whole thing right now. That being the case, why did we sign him? It makes no sense that's what my post was alluding to . whoever did the due diligence needs to be given a good old fashioned dressing down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, japiedog said: That being the case, why did we sign him? It makes no sense that's what my post was alluding to . whoever did the due diligence needs to be given a good old fashioned dressing down The article from a while ago on how Fornaroli got here said that the coaching staff are given a final list and they make the decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, jw1739 said: So we're writing a player off after 365 minutes match time? Because he carries the label "marquee" and in our opinion doesn't live up to that label? A bit premature I'd say. Not writing him off, I've just seen nothing to get excited about apart from his single derby goal. I've also seen no sign of improvement Edited December 11, 2017 by belaguttman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Mierzejewski is the benchmark and Budzinski is well short of it Edited December 11, 2017 by Chris p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 The only way we are going to find out if Budzinski is any good, is by playing him in his best position. If the manager doesn’t think he is doing enough in training or simply isn’t good enough, then it would be better to move him on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 David Davutovic recons he may be released in Jan. If that's the case who the fk brought him in. What a waste if true, not only for the past games but for the opportunity for a Marquee to be already familiar with our players and methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, playmaker said: David Davutovic recons he may be released in Jan. If that's the case who the fk brought him in. What a waste if true, not only for the past games but for the opportunity for a Marquee to be already familiar with our players and methods. Im still on the thought that it was a 'rushed' marquee signing, when we wasnt our first choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, playmaker said: David Davutovic recons he may be released in Jan. If that's the case who the fk brought him in. What a waste if true, not only for the past games but for the opportunity for a Marquee to be already familiar with our players and methods. Every signing is a risk. Especially the Marquee. If true and he is moved on in January atleast CFG are not making the same mistakes. From memory Koren lingered for 2 transfer windows when it was pretty clear to all he wasn't suited to what we needed. So if he goes atleast we can cut our loses and maybe get someone more suited to us in particular Wazza. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jovan said: Every signing is a risk. Especially the Marquee. If true and he is moved on in January atleast CFG are not making the same mistakes. From memory Koren lingered for 2 transfer windows when it was pretty clear to all he wasn't suited to what we needed. So if he goes atleast we can cut our loses and maybe get someone more suited to us in particular Wazza. The frustrating thing was that Koren and Budzik both looked good on highlights and their playing history. But then you get someone like Bruno who was a chubby flop and he ended up being one of our best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, haz said: The frustrating thing was that Koren and Budzik both looked good on highlights and their playing history. But then you get someone like Bruno who was a chubby flop and he ended up being one of our best. Exactly. Who would know who will succeed and who doesn't. Colazo is another. Super classy and an amazing touch but for whatever reason was poor. But if Budzinski does leave in January atleast we get another crack at maybe landing a gun. Novillo was a good get so maybe we just got keep trying until we get a good match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Jovan said: Exactly. Who would know who will succeed and who doesn't. Colazo is another. Super classy and an amazing touch but for whatever reason was poor. But if Budzinski does leave in January atleast we get another crack at maybe landing a gun. Novillo was a good get so maybe we just got keep trying until we get a good match. @HeartFc (I think) made a good point about having the correct personality/Attitude to be a succesfull marquee. Think about all our best City Visa players, they have all had a bit of C**t to them and it shows in their performances on the field. Moving from a country/continent where you have spent your whole life playing, you need the hard nut attitude to be a success in a new environment, theres no waiting in the A-League for a Visa to 'come good' Edited December 21, 2017 by haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 Well if Bud doesn't start this week it will be an indication of the club's intention as I think a long term Marquee would be starting in a match like this with the outs we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 52 minutes ago, playmaker said: Well if Bud doesn't start this week it will be an indication of the club's intention as I think a long term Marquee would be starting in a match like this with the outs we have. Eitherway we should not have any marquees or VISAs on the bench. All 5 should be starting XI players 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted December 21, 2017 Report Share Posted December 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, haz said: Eitherway we should not have any marquees or VISAs on the bench. All 5 should be starting XI players You mean they should play regardless of form or they should be replaced if they're not good enough ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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