Elimination Final! Wellington Phoenix vs Melbourne City @ Sunday May 3rd, 5pm AEST

[Luke]

 

Maybe we could rent out a boat and have the first annual "Melbourne city supporters" party cruise to the game?

Could emulate Galatasaray fans. 

 

 

 

they were in distress

[ool2012]

Wellington have been pretty bad at home lately, still theyll probably win 5-0

[Victards]

Our record of never winning a final's game will have to wait for next season. I put us in with a 2% chance of winning this.

[markn]

The best thing about this fixture is that for their last 4 home games Wellington have been pathetic.

 

Mind you our form away from home is pathetic.

 

Se we have two pathetic teams playing.

 

Should be in for a pathetic match.

[HEARTinator]

Zero feeling for this game. Hope Nux win TBH and then go on to take silverware. Meanwhile we cleanout the cockroaches at La Trobe.

[Parrot]

^{Wellington's pathetic is better than our pathetic. In Nathan Burns they have a player who works hard and scores goals,  unlike our slow, lumbering, one trick pony with a sore back. Come to think of it, he couldn't make the game to Perth, so wonder if he'll make it to New Zealand?}

 

[[LIBBA]]

Man, you guys are making me sad.

 

Crazy things happen in football so you never know! I'm taking work off regardless so that's a plus

 

FFS People stop with the doom and gloom shit.

 

I was just as shattered watching that pathetic display on Saturday night as you blokes were (especially for the supporters who travelled), but this is a new week and it's finals time. I'd much prefer to be in the finals and have the hope we may do one over Wellington than be CCM Newcastle WSW or Perth how have nothing to do but ponder a shit season.

 

Ok our season hasnt been flash, but considering where we were last season at this point, i'm a lot happier now than i was back then.

 

For me, this is what nees to happen for us to have a chance.

 

Kennedy needs to start on the bench. Doesnt give us anything what so ever going forward. A flag pole give more tan this bloke. We all understand Willo can be fuckin frustrating, but at least he offers something. Even though we didnt put away our chances against Perth, we looks so much better going forward with a striker who actually makes runs and doesnt stand there like a stiff peice of shite left by the local stray dog.

 

Might have to push Germano in the RB position or Retre and play Koren in the middle. Would much prefer either Dugandzic or even (dare i say it) Ramsay on the wing as Koren doesnt show enough on the wing and is wasted there imo.

 

Or the alternative, is we play the 442 diamond. If i remember correctly, last time we played them we used that formation and it worked well. If we do, put Germano at LM.

 

Maybe go with this....

 

Retre Kisnobo Chapman Clisby  

                       Paartalu

      Germano                 Koren

                          Mooy

         Williams               Novillo

 

 

What you reckon guys

Edited April 26, 2015 by [LIBBA]

[n i k o]

I don't agree with Mooys position, he needs to be our box to box player. Leave Korean in behind our front two strikers.

[hedaik]

At least Ill still be able to watch Postcards at 5.30

[[LIBBA]]

I don't agree with Mooys position, he needs to be our box to box player. Leave Korean in behind our front two strikers.

Ok so we change it to this:

 

     Retre Kisnobo Chapman Clisby  

                       Paartalu

      Germano                 Mooy

                         Koren

         Williams               Novillo

 

Would you agree though that this 11 and formation is probably our best chance of getting past Wellington?

 

If Kennedy starts, i'll be already conceding the loss. I think he would be perfect coming on late and trying go with the crosses in the box, but besides that, he is worthless

[Deviant]

Retre      Kisnobo       Chapman   

       

       Germano    Paartalu

                   

     Koren     Mooy   Novillo

                  

         Williams          

                          Kennedy

 

The lack of strong defenders and the need to actually score, to me, means that having 3 in the back and 2 CDM's is a better option. Stem the run through the middle and drop into the gaps to have 4-5 in the back if needed. Both Paartalu and Germano can lay the ball to the attacking mids.

 

The lack of depth off the bench is my only concern.

[[LIBBA]]

 

Retre      Kisnobo       Chapman   

       

       Germano    Paartalu

                   

     Koren     Mooy   Novillo

                  

         Williams          

                          Kennedy

 

The lack of strong defenders and the need to actually score, to me, means that having 3 in the back and 2 CDM's is a better option. Stem the run through the middle and drop into the gaps to have 4-5 in the back if needed. Both Paartalu and Germano can lay the ball to the attacking mids.

 

The lack of depth off the bench is my only concern.

 

I like it but only if we fall behind. Ok we need to score goals, but we have to be extremely smart and tight defensively cause Wellington can score and score a couple in quick succession.

 

I Just think we should play smart and maybe play off the count a little as they seem to struggle when play that type of football as they havent got the room to work the ball forward they way they'd like.

[rass]

 

I don't agree with Mooys position, he needs to be our box to box player. Leave Korean in behind our front two strikers.

Ok so we change it to this:

 

     Retre Kisnobo Chapman Clisby  

                       Paartalu

      Germano                 Mooy

                         Koren

         Williams               Novillo

 

Would you agree though that this 11 and formation is probably our best chance of getting past Wellington?

 

If Kennedy starts, i'll be already conceding the loss. I think he would be perfect coming on late and trying go with the crosses in the box, but besides that, he is worthless

 

 

I don't mind it, but imho, I would not start Paartalu at all.

I believe he has had a torrid time and that Wellington attack is one of the quickest going around - he will just end up getting exposed so badly.

 

So I would have Germano and Mooy(whether he likes it or not) rotate through that dm role that is currently Erik's. 

Then i would also throw in Murdocca into that midfield purely because of his buzz/hustling and final winning experience which is just so valuable.

 

I like the theory of Willo starting, but so worried about it as his form this year has been better as a sub... hmm thinking about it though, I do believe his starting performances have been better when away from home... 

 

So something like:

 

                                        Velaphi

Retre        Chapman (worried about his form atm tho)  Kisnorbo           Clisby

 

                                       Germano/Mooy

                   Murdocca                                  Germano/Mooy

                                         Koren

 

                                Williams        Novillo

 

If we can get Jaliens off his auto 1 week suspension, then I would play him instead of Chapman.

[Deviant]

 

 

Retre      Kisnobo       Chapman   

       

       Germano    Paartalu

                   

     Koren     Mooy   Novillo

                  

         Williams          

                          Kennedy

 

The lack of strong defenders and the need to actually score, to me, means that having 3 in the back and 2 CDM's is a better option. Stem the run through the middle and drop into the gaps to have 4-5 in the back if needed. Both Paartalu and Germano can lay the ball to the attacking mids.

 

The lack of depth off the bench is my only concern.

 

I like it but only if we fall behind. Ok we need to score goals, but we have to be extremely smart and tight defensively cause Wellington can score and score a couple in quick succession.

 

I Just think we should play smart and maybe play off the count a little as they seem to struggle when play that type of football as they havent got the room to work the ball forward they way they'd like.

 

 

If we play defensively then we might as well forfeit the game.

Take the attack to them, put them on the back foot and control the ball. 

If there was ever a time to up the work rate, it's now. We ran them off their feet last time, it'll work again this time.

[jw1739]

Is Jack Clisby available? He was "1-2 weeks" last time.

 

With Kennedy, I reckon you just have to have someone running off him, such as Williams. Otherwise he is useful only for the cross into the 6-yard box.

 

We're into the knock-out phase of the season. It's a lottery once you go to penalties, so we must score goals to win it. Irrespective of his record Williams has the pace to break the defence open so I reckon he must play.

 

We were sure of a place in the finals when we played both Perth and Adelaide. We could have experimented then, and I have no idea why Marino wasn't given a good run.

 

Even if we lose we must go down fighting to the end and then we know we gave it our best shot.

[Tommykins]

Marino hasn't exactly excelled at the NPL 1 level (although in fairness, neither did Stefan Mauk, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he was coming back from a long lay off), so I'm not sure exposure to A-League football is what he would have needed. 

 

Nick Symeoy is someone I feel would benefit from more exposure at A-League level. Looked nervous last week but always seemed composed at NYL level and plays well against the big boys at Moreland.

[NewConvert]

I don't agree with Mooys position, he needs to be our box to box player. Leave Korean in behind our front two strikers.

 

Just leave Koren in Melbourne. Its not like he has shown up for the last three weeks. The team won't miss him and neither will the fans.

[heart_fan10]

did JVS go back to a 4-3-3 formation against adelaide on the weekend? IMO we played our best we've ever played all season playing 4-4-2 against wellington a couple of weeks ago. He surely has to adopt that again this week, especially given how well it suited the players we have, and also how well it worked against wellington. 

[n i k o]

Bonevacia, Burns and Krishna are their three most dangerous players. We basically shut them out of the game last time and if we can do the same this time we stand every chance of winning.

[n i k o]

did JVS go back to a 4-3-3 formation against adelaide on the weekend? IMO we played our best we've ever played all season playing 4-4-2 against wellington a couple of weeks ago. He surely has to adopt that again this week, especially given how well it suited the players we have, and also how well it worked against wellington.

I'm almost definite we started with a 442 with a diamond midfield, Koren sitting in behind the front strikers. The same as how we set up against Wellington. But in saying that, the Adelaide game we could have set up with any formation and still been shit. The players were never in the game to begin with.

[[LIBBA]]

Do you think they'll head down to Wellington early?

[jw1739]

Marino hasn't exactly excelled at the NPL 1 level (although in fairness, neither did Stefan Mauk, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he was coming back from a long lay off), so I'm not sure exposure to A-League football is what he would have needed. 

 

Nick Symeoy is someone I feel would benefit from more exposure at A-League level. Looked nervous last week but always seemed composed at NYL level and plays well against the big boys at Moreland.

Fair enough , but didn't he get four goals the other week? My point is, I suppose, that he's on a senior contract (as is Mauk) so if ever there was a game in which to try him, those were the two. If he's not good enough then why is he on a contract? Another JvS special?

[Tommykins]

That was against Nunawading, I'd back you to put 3-4 past them jw. I don't think he's without potential (the opposite in fact) but I think big minutes against larger bodies will be better for his development long term. 

[Shahanga]

Not convinced we have 4 a league standard midfielders to play in a 442 diamond

I would be tempted to revert to 433 and play Koren " in behind the linesman". Alternatively we could start Stef Mauk in a 442.

[GreenSeater]

I seriously hate finals. As awful as it would be, Victory should have won the league yesterday rather than us going through the next few weeks of bullshit. We will lose this 4-1

[carlings]

Just read the Herald Sun and see Paddy quoted as saying "We have nothing to lose, no one expects us to win".

 

You have an A League final to lose, you moron.

 

Another example of mediocrity.

[n i k o]

He's probably right, I don't think anyone's backing us after the last two games. But at the same time it doesn't really inspire confidence and doesn't tell me the team thinks their chances are very good.

[jw1739]

Just read the Herald Sun and see Paddy quoted as saying "We have nothing to lose, no one expects us to win".

 

You have an A League final to lose, you moron.

 

Another example of mediocrity.

From our captain? Is there something wrong with the air and water at Bundoora? 

 

What a message to give your long-suffering fans. Someone give him some media training in the off-season please.

[[LIBBA]]

Reading way too much into that comment guys.

 

I honestly dont think the team would be going up there thinking they dont have a chance. I just think he is going with the thought that no one guys us a hope in hell and playing up the underdog tag and putting the pressure back on the home side which is exactly where the pressure should be to be honest.

 

Thats exactly how i took those comments anyways, but thats just me

[Deviant]

[Deviant]

so anyway, cheap flights for this game!!!

[jw1739]

Reading way too much into that comment guys.

 

I honestly dont think the team would be going up there thinking they dont have a chance. I just think he is going with the thought that no one guys us a hope in hell and playing up the underdog tag and putting the pressure back on the home side which is exactly where the pressure should be to be honest.

 

Thats exactly how i took those comments anyways, but thats just me

That's my point about media training.

 

"We know that everyone has put the underdog label on us, but we're going down there full of confidence that we can prove them all wrong."

[[LIBBA]]

 

Reading way too much into that comment guys.

 

I honestly dont think the team would be going up there thinking they dont have a chance. I just think he is going with the thought that no one guys us a hope in hell and playing up the underdog tag and putting the pressure back on the home side which is exactly where the pressure should be to be honest.

 

Thats exactly how i took those comments anyways, but thats just me

That's my point about media training.

 

"We know that everyone has put the underdog label on us, but we're going down there full of confidence that we can prove them all wrong."

 

 

Maybe should of worded that in exactly the same way you did, but i got where he was going with it lol

[kingofhearts]

Can't wait to see JVS park the bus for the whole game to try and get the game to a penalty shoot out.

[[LIBBA]]

so anyway, cheap flights for this game!!!

 

Just had a look.

 

Best flights price wise i could find was $311 return.

 

You leave at 12:45 am Friday and leave Wellingon 6:45am on the Monday

[[LIBBA]]

Can't wait to see JVS park the bus for the whole game to try and get the game to a penalty shoot out.

 

My god im sacred at the tought of who we have to take a penalty

[Parrot]

 

Can't wait to see JVS park the bus for the whole game to try and get the game to a penalty shoot out.

 

My god im sacred at the tought of who we have to take a penalty

 

 

You're optimistic to even be thinking about us taking penalties.

 

Mind you we take enough penalties before the game even starts, such as selecting a striker who is unbelievably slow, doesn't run hard and defensively gives us nothing and selecting another highly paid player who is invisible for lengthy periods in most games .

Edited April 27, 2015 by Parrot

[Heart of Melbourne]

Start wade dekker

[Deviant]

so anyway, cheap flights for this game!!!

Just had a look.

Best flights price wise i could find was $311 return.

You leave at 12:45 am Friday and leave Wellingon 6:45am on the Monday Link please

[[LIBBA]]

 

 

so anyway, cheap flights for this game!!!

Just had a look.

Best flights price wise i could find was $311 return.

You leave at 12:45 am Friday and leave Wellingon 6:45am on the Monday Link please

 

Shit sorry.

 

http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/home