AntiScum Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) No doubt would devide opinions T. Velaphi - A big stay for me depending on who is available could be either a great back up for a number. Has made the No1 his own on his own performances Redmayne - SEE YA not sure who gave him a contact extensions but who ever does can follow him out the door J. Hoffman - Could be a useful squad payer $$$ wise C. Chapman – Solid as a rock will stay P. Kisnorbo – Age may have caught up with him could potentially step in as a coach in some form J. Clisby - stay S. Baharudin – would like to see him added to the squad with a contact R. Wielaert – SEEYA J. Melling – stay M. Murdocca – SEEYA as like able as he is I don’t think his good enough A. Mooy – hopefully can hang around for another year I. Ramsay - SEEYA R. Koren – will stay another year to run P. Retre – SEEYA don’t think his good enough E. Paartalu – 2 years to run on his contract will be there S. Mauk – decent squad option B. Garuccio – might flourish under a new coach who knows what his doing J. Germano – SEEYA sad but his body cant handle football any more D. Williams - M. Dugandzic – bit unconvinced about his antics this year but new coach more confidence D. Duff – SEEYA confirmed leaving M. Marino – not given a chance but would like to see him under a European coach J. Kennedy – will stay J. Brown – SEEYA doesn’t cut it J. V. Schip – SEEYA don’t let the door hit you on the way out Head Coach L. Trani – Might be good to have around under a new coach Assistant Coach I. Jolic – Appointed by his mate JD SEEYA Assistant Coach Thats 9 players OUT with a new coach to come in would love to see a Josep Gombau kind of coach come in no doubt there are plenty floating around the world Edited March 9, 2015 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Marino has been injured for a long time and he was given a few chances and scored in one of those.I think having all the young players play in the NPL will be hugely beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 You need to consider the following (as I understand the situation): Velaphi - out of contract; Redmayne - one year remaining on contract (JA); Hoffman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Marino - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Chapman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Kisnorbo - out of contract; Clisby - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Safuwan(v) - out of contract (some say end of loan); Wielaert(v) - out of contract; Melling - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Murdocca - out of contract; Mooy - two years remaining on contract (JA); Ramsay - out of contract; Paartalu - three years remaining on contract (JvS); Koren(v) - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Retre - out of contract; Mauk - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Garuccio - two years remaining on contract (JvS); Germano(v) - out of contract; Williams - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Dugandzic - out of contract: Duff(v) - out of contract; Kennedy - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Brown - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Novillo(ir) - out of contract; Jaliens(ir) - out of contract. All those highlighted will remain unless we can somehow move them on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 You need to consider the following (as I understand the situation): Velaphi - out of contract; Redmayne - one year remaining on contract (JA); Hoffman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Marino - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Chapman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Kisnorbo - out of contract; Clisby - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Safuwan(v) - out of contract (some say end of loan); Wielaert(v) - out of contract; Melling - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Murdocca - out of contract; Mooy - two years remaining on contract (JA); Ramsay - out of contract; Paartalu - three years remaining on contract (JvS); Koren(v) - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Retre - out of contract; Mauk - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Garuccio - two years remaining on contract (JvS); Germano(v) - out of contract; Williams - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Dugandzic - out of contract: Duff(v) - out of contract; Kennedy - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Brown - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Novillo(ir) - out of contract; Jaliens(ir) - out of contract. All those highlighted will remain unless we can somehow move them on. Fair point but players can be released from a contract should they be able to find another club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Any questions on our medical department ? ffs for a club with our resources having so many injuries killed our season at critical times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Any questions on our medical department ? ffs for a club with our resources having so many injuries killed our season at critical times We're just unlucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 You need to consider the following (as I understand the situation): Velaphi - out of contract; Redmayne - one year remaining on contract (JA); Hoffman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Marino - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Chapman - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Kisnorbo - out of contract; Clisby - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Safuwan(v) - out of contract (some say end of loan); Wielaert(v) - out of contract; Melling - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Murdocca - out of contract; Mooy - two years remaining on contract (JA); Ramsay - out of contract; Paartalu - three years remaining on contract (JvS); Koren(v) - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Retre - out of contract; Mauk - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Garuccio - two years remaining on contract (JvS); Germano(v) - out of contract; Williams - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Dugandzic - out of contract: Duff(v) - out of contract; Kennedy - one year remaining on contract (JvS/CFG); Brown - one year remaining on contract (JvS); Novillo(ir) - out of contract; Jaliens(ir) - out of contract. All those highlighted will remain unless we can somehow move them on. So assuming all the highlighted stay unless can find an offer elsewhere. That only leaves IMO Safuwan Novillo Jaliens to consider. The question is with our renowned scouts can they find better Visa options?. I might stick with Safuwan offer him a 1 year deal. See what Novillo can do in the next month and soley due to age move Jaliens on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Any questions on our medical department ? ffs for a club with our resources having so many injuries killed our season at critical times Marwood the big guy from CFG said in his interview (see thread) that the almost all of the injuries were impact injuries not soft tissue injury. So Marwood explicitly stated that he does not hold the medical/rehabilitation people responsible for the injury toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Out of all the players contracted the one that sticks in my craw is Redmayne. I don't like Hoffman or Brown but I can live with it. I would not keep any player whose contract expires. Need replacements. As far as JVS is concerned, he lost me a few weeks ago. The assistants I cannot judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Contracts are irrelevant IMO, we can pay them out So here is my list STAYS DEFINITELY Chapman Paartalu Mooy Koren (but not as marquee if possible) Kennedy Garruccio Velaphi Clisby Melling Marino Safuwan GOES DEFINITELY Redmayne Wielaert Ramsay Murdocca Duff Germano Retre Jaliens This leaves players like Dugandzic, Wiiliams, Brown, Kisnorbo, Mauk, Hoffman these guys will be 50-50 you can't keep them all but I don't believe you can get rid of them all also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCROB24 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 out: current goal song in: something else 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Contracts are irrelevant IMO, we can pay them out Not true I'm afraid. We would breach the salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The only definitely gones for me at this stage are Wielaert RamsayMurdoccaDuffGermano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartMillsy29 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'd be prepared to lose space in the salary cap just to get Redmayne off our list. Sick of thinking/worrying about the bloke. And I swear if Tando isn't re-signed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Fuck Redmayne off to NYCFC Just another player from us to them Added note: Interested to know what the rules behind utilising the CFG network to fuck shit players off to one of the other clubs and put them in the reserves team, are... Definitely ethically wrong but from the looks of it, legally surely we can't be done for it? They're still getting paid and would emulate an ordinary transfer albeit different reason for move and the result of the transfer. An example would be: Redmayne under performing at Melb. City > NYCFC "buy" him during transfer window effectively taking him out of our salary cap > NYCFC move him down to Reserves for "fitness testing". Edited March 9, 2015 by CALZALOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 out: current goal song in: something else Best post in tis topic so far. I would love either Zombie Nation but thats probably my 'fully sick 21 yr old wog going to zos' talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Need to pay Korens contract out and bring in a genuine marquee next season. Is really the only contract we can pay out without affecting the salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The only definitely gones for me at this stage are WielaertRamsayMurdoccaDuffGermano Would you seriously offer a new contract to mate D? The guy thinks it's all a laugh. Rock up and take the easy money for kicking a ball. Well try Bentleigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We need to find a way to jettison Koren too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The only definitely gones for me at this stage areWielaertRamsayMurdoccaDuffGermano Would you seriously offer a new contract to mate D? The guy thinks it's all a laugh. Rock up and take the easy money for kicking a ball. Well try Bentleigh. Dugandzic seems like the type of player who would do well at another club, good player on his day but needs to find consistency Garuccio showed some promising signs that he could potentially be a starter next season in his position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The only definitely gones for me at this stage are Wielaert RamsayMurdoccaDuffGermano There are already 14 players we have to keep for next season. There are already several spuds in that group so the more of the others we keep the harder it will be to get a decent squad together. Another season like this one and we'll have sub-5,000 crowds. Just about all the other clubs are improving season-by-season; standing still means we're going backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Contracts are irrelevant IMO, we can pay them out Not true I'm afraid. We would breach the salary cap. Surely not, how did Newcastle terminate all those guys contracts and sign whole heap more than Call it mutual concent if we have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) We need to find a way to jettison Koren too. You dont need to find a way, he is a marquee outside the cap so you can do what you want. I still think Koren would be a star if we had a different coach that used him right. We really should be playing with a 442 with the players we have Saf Chap Kisnorbo Clisby Paartalu Melling Mooy Koren Novillo Kennedy But hey always next year Edited March 9, 2015 by Dylan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Or the year after ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) We need to find a way to jettison Koren too. You dont need to find a way, he is a marquee outside the cap so you can do what you want. I still think Koren would be a star if we had a different coach that used him right. We really should be playing with a 442 with the players we have Saf Chap Kisnorbo Clisby Paartalu Melling Mooy Koren Novillo Kennedy But hey always next year With a proper manager that's a perfectly good line-up. But interesting though this thread is, it's a complete waste of time except that we can all vent our spleens. If JD and vS are around after April you can bet your bottom dollar that there'll be some inexplicable signings and re-signings. Edited March 9, 2015 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Hopefully we can poach some proven A-League players from other clubs, need some experience not just all unproven signings from across the world/NPL youth teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Get this guy in, substitute football player for furniture and make things happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We're not that far off from competing with the top teams IMO. Just need to get a RB, a keeper, another striker to help Kennedy and another marquee midfielder to replace Koren if his game doesn't pick up. Outside of those 4 things (plus a better coach) out list is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 We're not that far off from competing with the top teams IMO. Just need to get a RB, a keeper, another striker to help Kennedy and another marquee midfielder to replace Koren if his game doesn't pick up. Outside of those 4 things (plus a better coach) out list is pretty good. Kind of agree with this but we also need to build depth because every team is likely to get an injury at one point or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The only definitely gones for me at this stage areWielaertRamsayMurdoccaDuffGermano Would you seriously offer a new contract to mate D? The guy thinks it's all a laugh. Rock up and take the easy money for kicking a ball. Well try Bentleigh. He's definitely the opposite of a whipping boy on here. Besides the odd glimpse once every couple of months, he's been a nightmare for the better part of two seasons...as bad as anyone still on our books, as far as I'm concerned. Yet the actual criticism of him is very rare, for some reason. He might have had a beer with the active supporters and Scott Munn once upon a time. Which reminds me...the real clean-up has to occur in the front office. It's the same old Heart, while they're running the show. Goodbye and good riddance. The foreign players seem pretty straightforward. If they're not clearly good enough to be starting (Wielaert, Germano), they're gone. I've been happy with what I've seen from Safuwan (besides him apparently doing everything in his power to get a red card on Sunday) and Jaliens. Would offer Safuwan two years and Jaliens one. Too early to say with Novillo...he looked pretty good, but I don't think he'd want to stick around anyway. Some of the Aussies are tough calls too, especially since there'd only be so many alternatives to the incumbents available. If Murdocca is willing to play for cheap, I think you could do worse. At least he busts his arse, whether he's on the park for three minutes or ninety. I'm not sure that we'll get the mass onfield cleanout that people are demanding. But I think 4-5 different players could make a huge difference to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I just want the off feild clean out to happen. The Bermuda Triangle of JVS-JD-Munn need to be rid of this club. And any dumb shit that organises a member training day viewing on a motherfucking Wednesday at 9am gotten rid of as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) wait what? there's a viewing today? no... scrap that... we are in WS today... when is this viewing? Edited March 10, 2015 by Deviant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted March 10, 2015 Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Keep: Tando Melling Paartalu Clisby Chapman Safuwan noodle master extraordinaire Novillo Mooy Kennedy Tbh rest can fuk off Edited March 10, 2015 by strider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee I think Kennedy should be given more time. Nathan Burns has been excellent at WP but was pretty average before that - I think that it all boils down to Merrick doing a fantastic job, but to state the obvious, JVS is no Ernie Merrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee I think Kennedy should be given more time. Nathan Burns has been excellent at WP but was pretty average before that - I think that it all boils down to Merrick doing a fantastic job, but to state the obvious, JVS is no Ernie Merrick. risk too big to take into next season already struggles to run at all, can't play 2 games in a week, don't waste a marquee spot on someone that won't have an impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee I think Kennedy should be given more time. Nathan Burns has been excellent at WP but was pretty average before that - I think that it all boils down to Merrick doing a fantastic job, but to state the obvious, JVS is no Ernie Merrick. risk too big to take into next season already struggles to run at all, can't play 2 games in a week, don't waste a marquee spot on someone that won't have an impact Always thought he was a poor signing. Can't understand CFG at all on this marquee issue - saying one thing and then appearing to do the other. Seeing blokes like Keogh and Janko playing for other clubs and then looking at Koren and Kennedy - there's just no comparison. But I doubt that either will be paid out I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee I think Kennedy should be given more time. Nathan Burns has been excellent at WP but was pretty average before that - I think that it all boils down to Merrick doing a fantastic job, but to state the obvious, JVS is no Ernie Merrick.risk too big to take into next season already struggles to run at all, can't play 2 games in a week, don't waste a marquee spot on someone that won't have an impactAlways thought he was a poor signing. Can't understand CFG at all on this marquee issue - saying one thing and then appearing to do the other. Seeing blokes like Keogh and Janko playing for other clubs and then looking at Koren and Kennedy - there's just no comparison. But I doubt that either will be paid out I'm afraid.Or is it that they just look poor under JVS? Edited March 11, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would like to see kennedy pushed out and someone like nathan burns brought in as aus marquee I think Kennedy should be given more time. Nathan Burns has been excellent at WP but was pretty average before that - I think that it all boils down to Merrick doing a fantastic job, but to state the obvious, JVS is no Ernie Merrick. risk too big to take into next season already struggles to run at all, can't play 2 games in a week, don't waste a marquee spot on someone that won't have an impact Always thought he was a poor signing. Can't understand CFG at all on this marquee issue - saying one thing and then appearing to do the other. Seeing blokes like Keogh and Janko playing for other clubs and then looking at Koren and Kennedy - there's just no comparison. But I doubt that either will be paid out I'm afraid. Keogh has played well from round 1. Janko had underperformed for most of the season but he finally hit his straps about 6 matches ago. So basically Kennedy has about 14 matches to find form if you want to compare him to Janko. Of course the club cannot afford to give him 14 matches to get some form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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