Alexxxandro Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) I can totally see how City might make it to the grand final. Find a way to win the first game and then against Victory (most likely) in the second game, anything's possible. So really that first final is an incredible chance for JVS. Edited April 22, 2015 by Alexxxandro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I can totally see how City might make it to the grand final. Find a way to win the first game and then against Victory (most likely) in the second game, anything's possible. So really that first final is an incredible chance for JVS. we have to get a result his week against Adelaide then it's Adelaide, or if we lose, it could be Wellington away are we going to win 3 on the trot away from home after next week Head says no, HEART says yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I've never been confident in Derbies at all and i've never been cocky or certain of beating the em, but I'm telling you blokes right now. If we pull a win in the first week of finals and play Victory in the second week.... Grand Final locked in. I can just see us going up a level against them with the confidence of the first win in the finals and the fact that we would go into that game knowing the pressure would be squarEly on the Tards. Fuck i have never wanted to win a game more than next week. IM FUCKIN FIRED UP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Of course nothing ever goes to script... Probably get Wellington first game and if we somehow win that Sydney in the second final. As soon as you think things are going to go one way in this crazy sport, they go the other. And no more so than being a Heart/City supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I just hope your enthusiasm can rub off on the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Of course nothing ever goes to script... Probably get Wellington first game and if we somehow win that Sydney in the second final. As soon as you think things are going to go one way in this crazy sport, they go the other. And no more so than being a Heart/City supporter. Cant agree more. But if the senario i posted a minute ago comes up, GF bound my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeCee Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Of course nothing ever goes to script... Probably get Wellington first game and if we somehow win that Sydney in the second final. As soon as you think things are going to go one way in this crazy sport, they go the other. And no more so than being a Heart/City supporter. Cant agree more. But if the senario i posted a minute ago comes up, GF bound my friend. Yeah, basically guaranteed to beat the team that put 8 past us in two games! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Of course nothing ever goes to script... Probably get Wellington first game and if we somehow win that Sydney in the second final. As soon as you think things are going to go one way in this crazy sport, they go the other. And no more so than being a Heart/City supporter. Cant agree more. But if the senario i posted a minute ago comes up, GF bound my friend. Yeah, basically guaranteed to beat the team that put 8 past us in two games! It would be safe to say we have tightened up our defensive side of our game sinec those 2 derbies. Besides last week, we had only conceded 1 goal in 5 games. To top it off, we had Tando and Paartalu missing from the last derby and didnt have Germano either. Safewan was playing his second game from what i remember in the middle of the park. Cant compare the 2 Derbies we lost to the side that is on the park atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I love the optimism but aren't the majority of us in agreeance that we have a thin & seriously unbalanced squad with an average coach? The ladder position is reflective of our efforts this season, we aren't in the same ballpark as the top 3 sides and Adelaide are still comfortably better than us. Come finals time I have zero confidence we'll be able to go up a notch for the occasion, a win in may would be close to a miracle. I had to laugh when Paartalu said something about other teams not wanting to play us in a final... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I love the optimism but aren't the majority of us in agreeance that we have a thin & seriously unbalanced squad with an average coach? The ladder position is reflective of our efforts this season, we aren't in the same ballpark as the top 3 sides and Adelaide are still comfortably better than us. Come finals time I have zero confidence we'll be able to go up a notch for the occasion, a win in may would be close to a miracle. I had to laugh when Paartalu said something about other teams not wanting to play us in a final... Well in a way, he's kind of spot on. You just dont know what Melb City will come on the park. We have seen some great football this season and at the same time, also seen vomit material of the highest order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 A win in the first final. Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I love the optimism but aren't the majority of us in agreeance that we have a thin & seriously unbalanced squad with an average coach? The ladder position is reflective of our efforts this season, we aren't in the same ballpark as the top 3 sides and Adelaide are still comfortably better than us. Come finals time I have zero confidence we'll be able to go up a notch for the occasion, a win in may would be close to a miracle.I had to laugh when Paartalu said something about other teams not wanting to play us in a final... yes cos imagine the shame of losing to us ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I've never been confident in Derbies at all and i've never been cocky or certain of beating the em, but I'm telling you blokes right now. If we pull a win in the first week of finals and play Victory in the second week.... Grand Final locked in. I can just see us going up a level against them with the confidence of the first win in the finals and the fact that we would go into that game knowing the pressure would be squarEly on the Tards. Fuck i have never wanted to win a game more than next week. IM FUCKIN FIRED UP!!! This sort of optimism is what soccer is all about. Rational thinking and logic is overrated, only to be used discussing why we lost. Until we lose I'm with you LIBBA, were going all the way! Your heartfelt emotions are what drag you back each week and get you through all the failures. I enjoy whistling through the day in a deluded sense with the hope that we are only a few games away from being champions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Can you imagine a City vs Victory Grand Final at AAMI Park? Holy shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol Just a heads up; enjoy it while you can as it will be a short lived finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I've never been confident in Derbies at all and i've never been cocky or certain of beating the em, but I'm telling you blokes right now. If we pull a win in the first week of finals and play Victory in the second week.... Grand Final locked in. I can just see us going up a level against them with the confidence of the first win in the finals and the fact that we would go into that game knowing the pressure would be squarEly on the Tards. Fuck i have never wanted to win a game more than next week. IM FUCKIN FIRED UP!!! This sort of optimism is what soccer is all about. Rational thinking and logic is overrated, only to be used discussing why we lost. Until we lose I'm with you LIBBA, were going all the way! Your heartfelt emotions are what drag you back each week and get you through all the failures. I enjoy whistling through the day in a deluded sense with the hope that we are only a few games away from being champions. Ill only consider myslef delusional when we get knocked out of finals. Hopefully for our sake, i dont get proven to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol If the one final we have been in that I was at is anything to go by it's not much to get excited about. Some strange part of me sees us doing Adelaide this weekend and the next, we would get absolutely fucked on by Victory in a semi though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol Just a heads up; enjoy it while you can as it will be a short lived finals Whats the point of wanting to make finals if you dont have the hope of going all the way. Might as well just scrap it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 In for grand final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol If the one final we have been in that I was at is anything to go by it's not much to get excited about. Some strange part of me sees us doing Adelaide this weekend and the next, we would get absolutely fucked on by Victory in a semi though. Can't see us beating Adelaide twice in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol If the one final we have been in that I was at is anything to go by it's not much to get excited about. Some strange part of me sees us doing Adelaide this weekend and the next, we would get absolutely fucked on by Victory in a semi though. Can't see us beating Adelaide twice in a row. Probably not. We'll just draw this week and beat them when it matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I know it sounds a weird call but I've always seen tiki taka style teams that aren't Barcelona crumbling in high intensity games where the results are important. Games usually unfold as such that they get hit on the counter early then passing goes astray / panicked players deviate from the game plan when the nerves start kicking in. Style over substance if you will. FWIW I don't think Gombau will ever win this league due to the inconsistency you will get with this level of players playing his style of football. Obviously Adelaide will be favourites but I wouldnt at all be surprised if we beat them in the final should we draw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 I know it sounds a weird call but I've always seen tiki taka style teams that aren't Barcelona crumbling in high intensity games where the results are important. Games usually unfold as such that they get hit on the counter early then passing goes astray / panicked players deviate from the game plan when the nerves start kicking in. Style over substance if you will. FWIW I don't think Gombau will ever win this league due to the inconsistency you will get with this level of players playing his style of football. Obviously Adelaide will be favourites but I wouldnt at all be surprised if we beat them in the final should we draw them. Not sure on that - their problem is the lack of depth since no Carrusca then they become average AND the lack of a striker. Djite is not a big scorer so they lack fire power up forward. Judicious recruiting could solve these problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol Just a heads up; enjoy it while you can as it will be a short lived finals Whats the point of wanting to make finals if you dont have the hope of going all the way. Might as well just scrap it then Oh man. Don't talk to me about hope and MHFC/MCFC. I've had hope for 5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 God (Tando) to save the penalty to win us the grand final after a 0-0 draw. Just wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't get me wrong. I'm not optimistic. I just think that a possible Derby in the second round is a fantastic chance for JVS and the team. Our team's biggest weakness is mental strength which often doesn't seem to be a factor in derbies. Fact is we will probably exit first final. High probability, but i guess i cant help get excited about finals since i've never been to one lol Just a heads up; enjoy it while you can as it will be a short lived finals Whats the point of wanting to make finals if you dont have the hope of going all the way. Might as well just scrap it then Oh man. Don't talk to me about hope and MHFC/MCFC. I've had hope for 5 years. So have i mate trust me, but at the end of the day, we've hoped and not even been in the position we're in now. Why not hope a little more. Remember that this season hasnt been a total disaster. We've gone from wooden spooners to a finals birth and we've done that with a lot of deadwood still at the club. This season is just a stepping stone to where we and CFG want us to be. Next season that deadwood will be gone and we'll hopefully sign quality instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 So do we celebrate our highest league finish ever once Perth is relegated to 7th place or can we start the celebrations now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) 5th position is shit. Ill be happy if we get to the Grand Final. I'll celebrate if we win the whole thing. Edited April 24, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 So do we celebrate our highest league finish ever once Perth is relegated to 7th place or can we start the celebrations now? I think it deserves a quiet nod. 5th out of 10 isn't anything to write home about but it is a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 So do we celebrate our highest league finish ever once Perth is relegated to 7th place or can we start the celebrations now?I think it deserves a quiet nod. 5th out of 10 isn't anything to write home about but it is a step in the right direction. IMO no enough. 4th would have been a pass for me. Higher then that was as real as a unicorn. Six...... is simply so average that I feel like we have gained nothing this year. Thank you JVS, now hand over the job to someone who wants us to progress into top 3 (at least) next year. Won't happen while you're holding the joystick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Just as a (silly) comparison: If memory serves me correctly Man City finished mid-table first season after / during the Sheikh takeover. Then 5th, then 3rd, then won the league. I think we all knew deep down we weren't gonna win the league but it is baby steps in the right direction, from wooden spooners to finalists... Next season should see us top 4 IMO. With that said we're ganna win the league! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Optimism will not be tolerated here this is your last warning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Being in a salary capped league and finally being rid of all the deadwood (besides Redmayne) there's no reason why we wouldn't be aiming to contend for top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 Optimism will not be tolerated here this is your last warning. What is an optimism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) The objective should always be to win the Premiers Plate. Always. 2nd-4th is acceptable, especially if it's a close-run season like this one. For a club with the resources that Melbourne City now has, and for a club in a two-club city, 5th and below is not acceptable. Never. A look at the league table as it is clearly shows us as "the best of the also-rans." That's all. We finish 6th based on on-field performance, and are elevated to 5th on a technicality. Except for Round 1 and following Perth's demotion after Round 27, we have occupied 6th or 7th on the ladder for the whole season, showing we were never in the hunt for the Plate. Edited April 25, 2015 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Optimism will not be tolerated here this is your last warning. What is an optimism? I used to have one but I lost it at a game last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 The objective should always be to win the Premiers Plate. Always. 2nd-4th is acceptable, especially if it's a close-run season like this one. For a club with the resources that Melbourne City now has, and for a club in a two-club city, 5th and below is not acceptable. Never. A look at the league table as it is clearly shows us as "the best of the also-rans." That's all. We finish 6th based on on-field performance, and are elevated to 5th on a technicality. Except for Round 1 and following Perth's demotion after Round 27, we have occupied 6th or 7th on the ladder for the whole season, showing we were never in the hunt for the Plate. Don't disagree with that, but the first thing about fixing a problem is admitting you have one. We have been rubbish and need to move up from that to be competitive. I am claiming 5th though. Reasoning is Perth have beaten us on the table because they cheated and signed better players than they should have been able to. If they hadn't they wouldn't have Keogh's goals and would have missed out on quite a few wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm so sick and tired of constantly hearing about this problem about venues for the final if victree get through to the grand final. Hope they get beaten in the semis and put to bed any of these issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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