HeartOfCity Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Afif Adam said: just sharing If this happens i will be pissed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 minute ago, HeartOfCity said: If this happens i will be pissed!!! Don't be, because if we got him Wazza would find a way not to play him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, playmaker said: Don't be, because if we got him Wazza would find a way not to play him. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IssySG Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Irrelevant to Honda, it would be good to get a new signing in the next fortnight or so. Squad still has a little ways to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 City is on drugs if they cant find players to sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Back at it twitter is about to explode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post haz Posted July 16, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said: City is on drugs if they cant find players to sign Yea but people might not want to play for peanuts in Australia. Some Victoria's Secret Models are single, but doesnt mean they'll date me Edited July 16, 2018 by haz 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Playing against Bolt put the back 4 on the 18 yard line. Now let's see him use his speed. Edited July 16, 2018 by Inchcolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 It would be nice for us to finally start throwing our muscle around and swoop in to get Honda. About time we got one over VIctory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 16, 2018 Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 I suspect that for us it all now depends on Arzani. Once his future is resolved I suspect we'll quickly see a lot of other pieces drop into place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: I suspect that for us it all now depends on Arzani. Once his future is resolved I suspect we'll quickly see a lot of other pieces drop into place. What is the latest on Arzani? It's all gone very quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 hours ago, haz said: Yea but people might not want to play for peanuts in Australia. Some Victoria's Secret Models are single, but doesnt mean they'll date me You should try. Ur on the first search page in Google 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: What is the latest on Arzani? It's all gone very quiet. Goal.com published an article yesterday claiming that he was likely to depart. It also quoted Greg O'Rourke who was hoping he'd stay put for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 if he departs, who are we looking at to replace him with? need a backup for Vidosic for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Afif Adam said: if he departs, who are we looking at to replace him with? need a backup for Vidosic for sure I'd assume a marquee winger. That's why resolving Arzani's future is the key to the other signings we need to make. Not least as well because if he stays another year, it's much more likely that he would become our second marquee, as Mooy did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 hours ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said: You should try. Ur on the first search page in Google Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Apparently Honda is in Melbourne, most likely for a medical with Victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Apparently Honda is in Melbourne, most likely for a medical with Victory. *commits seppuku* RIP Haz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Apparently Honda is in Melbourne, most likely for a medical with Victory. Looks like we will be able to snag triosi after his stellar season last year 🤔🤔😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, Andrew Edmonds said: Apparently Honda is in Melbourne, most likely for a medical with Victory. Without being one of those posters who runs around claiming that the sky is falling in, this ought to be a reminder that we need to get our own list sorted. It's time to resolve Arzani's status, our marquee places, and our remaining squad places, visa and non-visa. We really want to avoid yet another season where we fail to match and exceed Victory. Last season hurt, watching them win the playoffs from fourth and nick our place in Asia. Cannot be allowed to happen again. Edited July 18, 2018 by fensaddler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Without being one of those posters who runs around claiming that the sky is falling in, this ought to be a reminder that we need to get our own list sorted. It's time to resolve Arzani's status, our marquee places, and our remaining squad places, visa and non-visa. We really want to avoid yet another season where we fail to match and exceed Victory. Last season hurt, watching them win the playoffs from fourth and nick our place in Asia. Cannot be allowed to happen again. I agree. I will be plenty pissed off if Victory secure Honda. They are making us look second-best where it counts - on the football field. No-one cares about the back-room stuff, the facilities, the links and pathways, the academy, etc. etc. if it isn't reflected in success in the A-League and entry into Asia. Edited July 18, 2018 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Without being one of those posters who runs around claiming that the sky is falling in, The sky isn't falling, however the marquee is crucial to the team's success. A good quote to summarise our issue is this: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, We need to get a marquee and play him every game... it's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rass Posted July 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, playmaker said: The sky isn't falling, however the marquee is crucial to the team's success. A good quote to summarise our issue is this: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, Obviously applies to yourself as you continue to post the same material over and over and over again... 9 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I agree. I will be plenty pissed off if Victory secure Honda. They are making us look second-best everywhere it counts - on the football field. No-one cares about the back-room stuff, the facilities, the links and pathways, the academy, etc. etc. if it isn't reflected in success in the A-League and entry into Asia. Whilst i do think Honda would be a great fit for us and hope we get him, i really couldnt care less whether we sign a name player or not at the end of the day provided whoever we sign as marquee does the business on the pitch. If that's Leroy George, then i'm ambivalent to Victory signing Honda. If our marquee fails again a la Koren, Colazo or Bud then the appropriate heads need to roll. You don't get three fuck-ups in a row in such a key spot for our team, irrespective of how well theyve done with the rest of the squad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, rass said: Obviously applies to yourself as you continue to post the same material over and over and over again... I expect the same result, so no it doesn't Edited July 18, 2018 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, bt50 said: Whilst i do think Honda would be a great fit for us and hope we get him, i really couldnt care less whether we sign a name player or not at the end of the day provided whoever we sign as marquee does the business on the pitch. If that's Leroy George, then i'm ambivalent to Victory signing Honda. If our marquee fails again a la Koren, Colazo or Bud then the appropriate heads need to roll. You don't get three fuck-ups in a row in such a key spot for our team, irrespective of how well theyve done with the rest of the squad. They weren't, the error was not playing them. As for Colazo, well he was just a victim to the JVS system of rubbish and the lack of a quality CAM not being played as was discussed in that time. And totally agree, George would be a great signing IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, playmaker said: They weren't, the error was not playing them. As for Colazo, well he was just a victim to the JVS system of rubbish and the lack of a quality CAM not being played as was discussed in that time. This belongs in the UOTIH thread. I'm sure you'll find that most agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Whilst i do think Honda would be a great fit for us and hope we get him, i really couldnt care less whether we sign a name player or not at the end of the day provided whoever we sign as marquee does the business on the pitch. If that's Leroy George, then i'm ambivalent to Victory signing Honda. If our marquee fails again a la Koren, Colazo or Bud then the appropriate heads need to roll. You don't get three fuck-ups in a row in such a key spot for our team, irrespective of how well theyve done with the rest of the squad. Indeed. We don't necessarily need a name, just astute, effective signings. We can do it, Bort and Bruno are two excellent examples, and if we've never heard of our marquee, that's not necessarily bad. With some caution about attitude (ie is he awkward or disruptive) I'd agree that George would be good, and would also serve to piss off the Tards, especially if he tore them a new one in the derby... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, rass said: Obviously applies to yourself as you continue to post the same material over and over and over again... Nah, someone's just set his posting to bad 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Indeed. We don't necessarily need a name, just astute, effective signings. We can do it, Bort and Bruno are two excellent examples, and if we've never heard of our marquee, that's not necessarily bad. With some caution about attitude (ie is he awkward or disruptive) I'd agree that George would be good, and would also serve to piss off the Tards, especially if he tore them a new one in the derby... Counter to Bort,Mooy and Bruno would be as mentioned Colazo,Koren and Budzinski (regardless of why they weren't effective they still weren't ). So I'd say overall the visa/marquee signings since CFG takeover is running around 50% success rate if they can up that around the 70% mark I think most would be happy. Interesting times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IssySG Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I think when looking at the Honda signing you also need to look at it in the context of there other signings. They've lost a lot of their better players and signed Corey Brown and Storm Roux - neither incredible signings that I'm dreading we missed out on. While Honda is a great aquasition for them (assuming it goes through), one man doesnt make a team and they still have a long, long way to go. City on the other hand have resigned some proven performers from last season in Brattan and Malik, given Caseres another shot (call it biased optimism but I think we'll see him playing at another level under Joyce) and signed McGree who is a low key huge signing, then chuck in Wales and O'Halloran for good measure. I'm telling you guys, we're getting really close. Once we sort out the arzani issue, we need another CB, 10 and potentially Winger (depending on where the chips fall). The Visitors still have a long, long way to go. This is our fucking year, we're coming for the crown. COYCB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jovan said: Counter to Bort,Mooy and Bruno would be as mentioned Colazo,Koren and Budzinski (regardless of why they weren't effective they still weren't ). So I'd say overall the visa/marquee signings since CFG takeover is running around 50% success rate if they can up that around the 70% mark I think most would be happy. Interesting times. None of the first three were signed as marquees, whereas all of the second three were... IMO it doesn't matter why any particular signing - the most obvious ones being visa and marquee signings - does not deliver to expectation. Irrespective of whether it is non-contribution from the player - except in the case of genuine injury as per Heart/Engelaar - or that the manager doesn't play him, the outcome is the same. It is a failure in recruitment. Visa/marquee players. Season 2014-15: Rob Wielaert (second season) Harry Novillo (injury replacement) Robert Koren Damien Duff Jonatan Germano (second season) Kew Jaliens (injury replacement) Liam Miller (injury replacement) David Villa (guest) Safuwan Baharudin Season 2015-16: Tommy Sorensen Aaron Hughes Aaron Mooy Harry Novillo Bruno Fornaroli Season 2016-17 Tommy Sorensen Nicolas Colazo Tim Cahill Michael Jakobsen Bruno Fornaroli Fernando Brandan Season 2017-18 Bart Schenkeveld Michael Jakobsen Bruno Fornaroli Fernando Brandan Marcin Budzinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, IssySG said: I think when looking at the Honda signing you also need to look at it in the context of there other signings. They've lost a lot of their better players and signed Corey Brown and Storm Roux - neither incredible signings that I'm dreading we missed out on. While Honda is a great aquasition for them (assuming it goes through), one man doesnt make a team and they still have a long, long way to go. City on the other hand have resigned some proven performers from last season in Brattan and Malik, given Caseres another shot (call it biased optimism but I think we'll see him playing at another level under Joyce) and signed McGree who is a low key huge signing, then chuck in Wales and O'Halloran for good measure. I'm telling you guys, we're getting really close. Once we sort out the arzani issue, we need another CB, 10 and potentially Winger (depending on where the chips fall). The Visitors still have a long, long way to go. This is our fucking year, we're coming for the crown. COYCB. Was just walking back to my desk thinking some of this. Whilst we still have two or three key pieces to put in the picture, the signings and resignings (as well as the players we've let go to make space in many cases) we have made are excellent. McGree, Wales and O'Halloran look great business, and I'm positive about Caceres. So pleased so far, want to see the biggest chips on the table to know whether we are really serious. I want this year to be the one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, bt50 said: I'm sure you'll find that most agree. Because most are MK Ultraed sheep. The truth is: no marquee = no silverware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, playmaker said: Because most are MK Ultraed sheep. The truth is: no marquee = no silverware MK? Milton Keynes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, playmaker said: Because most are MK Ultraed sheep. The truth is: no marquee = no silverware Do ever rebutt anyones actual argument? All you do is just restate points that people aren't even arguing. I doubt there is anyone on here who thinks we can win silverware without fit and firing Marquees. BT wasn't arguing that, he was saying Koren, Colazo and Budzinski were failed marquees and you fire back with we need marquees to win silverware. Of course we fucking do, but we need good marquees not failed marquees. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, malloy said: BT wasn't arguing that, he was saying Koren, Colazo and Budzinski were failed marquees and you fire back with we need marquees to win silverware. Of course we fucking do, but we need good marquees not failed marquees. You need to relax man as I am contributing to the discussion and as people disagree with me, I am allowed to disagree with others or post a neutral opinion. The problem is that people get too sensitive to normal discourse and tongue in cheek comments. Get over it as it's just football. I am glad you agree that we need a good marquee but further to that is that he needs to be played no matter what as he should be the best player and potential match winner in every game. But further to this, I am saying that if the above doesn't happen then we will in the same position as we have been in for the last 3 season, which is a correct statement based on what we observe and can measure in other clubs with marquees that actually play. The Budinski situation cost us a trophy last season and the blame falls directly on Wazza, and furthermore the loss to th Jets is also all his fault not only because of the Bud situation, but also in Malik being CB when we had La Rocca and Delbridge on the player list. And tbh I can't see the rationale of being excited about Wales or Mcgree when we haven't cemented a match winning signing, this scenario happens every off season and then.... well we know how the story goes. I am sick and tired of managers and excuses costing us success. I hope Wazza does right this season, but can guarantee that no marquee playing every game = no trophies. Drain the swamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 I see it this way, I love Honda and I want his little oriental babies, but if we sign George* and Victory sign Honda I will be happy. This is assuming that George helps our team perform equal or better to what impact Honda has on Victory. (*Or anyone of similar quality) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Was replying "nope" to people asking about Adelaide and WSW. Make of it what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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