Jimmy Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Dat Ip address to username ratio Nah, there are already 9k unique visitors to this forum this month (it's blown up ridiculously the last few weeks), so I'd say there are a lot of lurkers that just read the forum and dont post, but a poll like this forces them to finally register. There has been a spike in registrations yesterday/today, but I dont exepect it to be many multis, if any (will have a look when I have a chance and ban anyone using multis to vote in this poll) We're really pushing for people to sign up here on our social media fwiw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Aardvark Posted July 10, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Jestr, I agree the club will ensure that blue becomes a key component of the clubs colours, and that's why it should be embraced.  I love the red and white, and am not a huge fan of the new kit or colour scheme, but it is clear that it will be here to stay. As a result, I think it should be acknowledged, especially by a supporter group that has been newly formed in association with the new version of the club, not the old.  ATM I think there is a huge danger of the Melbourne City fans becoming divided, with the "Heart" fans and then the "City" fans. The supporter group as it stands is still very Heart and as such pro-red and anti-blue. Despite the club being rebranded I don't think many if any of the Heart fans have truly embraced the changes and are still in the same mode they were pre-change announcements when the "keep Melbourne red and white" campaign was up and running. The change has happened now, for better or for worse, and it isn't going to be reversed. Further to this I think a logo that only embraces the Heart red and white stripes would make the group look like it is for Heart supporters only and might not help in recruiting some of the new supporters (I concede this is probably not a major threat, but a consideration none the less).  It's not a matter of the red or the blue winning at the expense of the other. By putting sky blue in the logo it doesn't mean the Heart supporters are "losing". The colours can coexist and I think a logo demonstrating as much would certainly set a good example. Remember that atm the club is still very red and white but in 4 years time it will be just as much white and sky blue. A solely away kit orientated logo might look a little silly at that point.  That's why I voted for logo 3, because it incorporates both the home and away kits at the expense of neither, and is a logo that shows that it will grow with the club and not try to represent Heart and Heart only.  We are definitely still red and white, but we are also sky blue. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparaga Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Jestr, I agree the club will ensure that blue becomes a key component of the clubs colours, and that's why it should be embraced. I love the red and white, and am not a huge fan of the new kit or colour scheme, but it is clear that it will be here to stay. As a result, I think it should be acknowledged, especially by a supporter group that has been newly formed in association with the new version of the club, not the old. ATM I think there is a huge danger of the Melbourne City fans becoming divided, with the "Heart" fans and then the "City" fans. The supporter group as it stands is still very Heart and as such pro-red and anti-blue. Despite the club being rebranded I don't think many if any of the Heart fans have truly embraced the changes and are still in the same mode they were pre-change announcements when the "keep Melbourne red and white" campaign was up and running. The change has happened now, for better or for worse, and it isn't going to be reversed. Further to this I think a logo that only embraces the Heart red and white stripes would make the group look like it is for Heart supporters only and might not help in recruiting some of the new supporters (I concede this is probably not a major threat, but a consideration none the less). It's not a matter of the red or the blue winning at the expense of the other. By putting sky blue in the logo it doesn't mean the Heart supporters are "losing". The colours can coexist and I think a logo demonstrating as much would certainly set a good example. Remember that atm the club is still very red and white but in 4 years time it will be just as much white and sky blue. A solely away kit orientated logo might look a little silly at that point. That's why I voted for logo 3, because it incorporates both the home and away kits at the expense of neither, and is a logo that shows that it will grow with the club and not try to represent Heart and Heart only. We are definitely still red and white, but we are also sky blue. Agree with this 100%! I know we want to preserve our history using red and white but to ignore the changes and not accepting any sky blue in the logo just makes us look like a group of stubborn teenagers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 IMO they all need more white, embrace the white and we may get to keep it. Embracing more white In case anyone is new here "We Gather Strength As We Go" is the English translation of the Latin "Vires Acquirit Eundo", which is on the City of Melbourne's Coat of Arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'd rather the Latin version 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'd rather the Latin version 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I like the Latin thing but only on the scarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticker Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Latin version and original love heart or no M on the Heart would be best. Edited July 10, 2014 by Ticker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) I'm in no way ignoring the current situation or the future changes towards sky blue. I'm no longer fighting against it either. Red will be phased out, period. As for blue I'm not asking to remove it from badges, scarfs or for supporters to keep away from it. I will be happy to sit or stand next to people wearing new home kit or blue scarf at AAMI No problem at all. Although I ACCEPT good blend of blue and red in new badges, I'm unwilling to assist new owners to paint us all blue ASAP Edited July 10, 2014 by Jestr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I like the Latin thing but only on the scarf. Same here but smaller font than melburnians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) IMO they all need more white, embrace the white and we may get to keep it.Embracing more white In case anyone is new here "We Gather Strength As We Go" is the English translation of the Latin "Vires Acquirit Eundo", which is on the City of Melbourne's Coat of Arms. Prefer Latin too but need it smaller and in a cursive font. Make the heart at the top just the shape of the old logo and not have the m in it. It looks out of place imo. Probably because it was such a 'modern' looking logo put at the top of a logo that looks more 'traditional' Also delete red stripe closest to the centre and put a stylized flag in the centre, just like the club logo without the crown or mc fc. Just the cross and gold animals Then I'll change my vote Edited July 10, 2014 by Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca988 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 surely you guys aren't serious with number 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andes Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 No. 4 is def the most relevant and well designed imo... agree with some other posts about the need to incorporate a blue central stripe though, otherwise very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 surely you guys aren't serious with number 3? Thank you for your thoughtful insight, we will take your educated comment into consideration when it comes to the final outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Why are people still voting for 1 and 2? I thought you asked people to delete their votes for those and go for 3 or 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I voted for 4. Â (preferred 2, but changed my vote as per Jimmy's suggestion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 No. 4 is def the most relevant and well designed imo... agree with some other posts about the need to incorporate a blue central stripe though, otherwise very impressed. Â proof of concept (bit of a shit editing job tho due to jpg compression) Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keavo81 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I vote #4 but with thinner stripes. They all look good. I love the inclusion of flinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Â No. 4 is def the most relevant and well designed imo... agree with some other posts about the need to incorporate a blue central stripe though, otherwise very impressed. Â proof of concept (bit of a shit editing job tho due to jpg compression) Â Â I like it. Only change I'd made is making the middle stripe red and have the stripe on the right sky blue. In fact, having the sky and navy blue combo (like in 3) would be perfect. Â Essentially taking the middle of the circle in badge 3 and put it in badge 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clock hands at 20.14 please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewp Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 3 is the best, dunno about the first two. 4 is okay though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Changed from 1 to 4, 4 looks a lot more modern which i like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clock hands at 20.14 please... I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clock hands at 20.14 please... I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014   No. 4 is def the most relevant and well designed imo... agree with some other posts about the need to incorporate a blue central stripe though, otherwise very impressed.  proof of concept (bit of a shit editing job tho due to jpg compression)   I like it. Only change I'd made is making the middle stripe red and have the stripe on the right sky blue. In fact, having the sky and navy blue combo (like in 3) would be perfect.  Essentially taking the middle of the circle in badge 3 and put it in badge 4  Looks too busy imo  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingman Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 So you're telling me we have over 185 active members in less than 24 hours? Fuck I'm good at running a forum. Â We have been pushing it on teh social media, hopefully a portion of them become contributing members. Â Â Â Clock hands at 20.14 please... I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though. Â Â Having the clock perfectly between 2-4am is much better tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Â Â Clock hands at 20.14 please... I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though. Â Fair point, I accept that but can be confusing without explaination 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticker Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 The central sky blue stripe looks perfect! The one incorporating our home kit stripe is a bit unbalanced, plus we won't have that design for ever so it may be a bit short sighted. Â I'd both for either of those over option 3 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticker Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Why not set the flinders street clock to 19:10 the year the station opened - or even your good old 18:47. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clock hands at 20.14 please...I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though. It's a supporter group created for the support of the club which was born in 2009 Without the club there wouldn't be any need for the support group to even exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 What happens if it's a tie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 What happens if it's a tie? Dance off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 What happens if it's a tie? Extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 What happens if it's a tie? Extra time. Than penalties I guess??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clock hands at 20.14 please...I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO.The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though.It's a supporter group created for the support of the club which was born in 2009 Without the club there wouldn't be any need for the support group to even exist I'm not saying either is wrong or right. It just comes down to what is trying to be said with the inclusion of the date. If it is in reference to the supporters group then it cannot be anything other than 2014, if it is in reference to the club it is upto the terrace to decide which date to include or whether a date should be included at all. personally I like the 2am-4am reference, even though it is very likely unintentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB. Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Â What happens if it's a tie? Extra time. Â Silver Goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jparaga Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 No. 4 is def the most relevant and well designed imo... agree with some other posts about the need to incorporate a blue central stripe though, otherwise very impressed. proof of concept (bit of a shit editing job tho due to jpg compression) I like it. Only change I'd made is making the middle stripe red and have the stripe on the right sky blue. In fact, having the sky and navy blue combo (like in 3) would be perfect. Essentially taking the middle of the circle in badge 3 and put it in badge 4 Looks too busy imo Would change from 3 to 4 if this was the logo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 What happens if it's a tie? a fight to the death between the two first voters of the tied logos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Logo doesn't need to be changed. There's plenty of blue in the flinders dome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014    Clock hands at 20.14 please... I reserve the right to change my vote if this happens. The reason i chose #3 over #4 was to avoid '2014' I disagree that this club started in 2014. Yes it changed majorly and mostly for the better but its not a new club IMO. The supporters group 'Melburnians' started in 2014 though.  Fair point, I accept that but can be confusing without explaination  Well, what's the significance of 03.00 or 15.00? I'd say that would require explanation, and it would be rather more obscure than 20.14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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