DutchPride Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Completely different situation emu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I don't think they would make him Manager just for marketability. I mean it's not like he brought the crowds in when he was playing for us. So why would they think he'd bring more as manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 It was because he was cheap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If Aloisi fails, it could be a very short coaching career for him. It's a risk for both parties. You have to look at who made the decision, its the board who do the financials. Not surprised marketability was mentioned, would he even be getting 250k? It's not like he'd reject the job for a 100% pay increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 The mentor position for JA will be a crucial appointment. The strategy of appointing JA does have some risk (as would appointing AM) however it frees up considerable money to spend on the field. We are probably 3-4 players off having a serious tilt at the title so we now have funds to spend more on quality players. Having seen many NYL games last season, the team certainly performed better when Arthur Pappas was on the coaching team, however of course it's dangerous to assume causality here. It would be very helpful if Ante does stay to assist John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Back in Sydney for a holiday following a scouting trip in Japan for English club Crystal Palace, where he is an assistant coach, Popovic is expected to weigh up an offer from Football Federation Australia to coach west Sydney. If he takes up the job, it is expected Melbourne Heart assistant Ante Milicic will join him. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/football/locals-in-lead-for-top-job-at-sydney-fc/story-fn63e0vj-1226351376699 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Sydney Croatia anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I had heard that Malthouse had been to man utd to learn about player management... but I couldn't remember when, so i asked the oracle... (I Googled it) Here's what i found... Malthouse Adopts Ferguson Plan It's probably not rocket science,but i was told recently that when Malthouse was the international rules coach a few years ago, and travelled to Ireland he got to spend an hour with Sir Alex Ferguson the Man United Soccer coach. Both men traded ideas on both codes,and i believe that Malty has adopted the Soccer management level when he looks at pacing us for each season. Obviously this has worked cos our player management won us a flag,and we are ready to go back to back. Soccer players although don't play a full body contact sport, they do play a hell of a lot more games than AFL players do,over one season so managing the team with rest ,rehab, and sports science is the future to WINNING. This why when Malthouse says that we don't want to play April footy in August it makes sense.The idea is to manage the team so spot on that they can play their best footy at the right time of the year.Also to play a mixture of players to keep in hand a strong squad to fill a role in case of injury,so if one player goes down another is drilled in filling that specific role Collingwood have adopted this approach and so have Geelong.......Although in Geelong's case i wonder whether their older stallwarts have what it takes come finals time.Don't get me wrong Geelong managed their team very well over the last few years 2 premierships is the result. Lets take carlton as an example .They are the in form side at the moment and are playing their best footy right now.Their team only has a few injuries but the team's form is spectacular for the moment. But there are 11 rounds plus finals to go.Most teams wear out when it comes to season's end.but the teams that have been managed well win the big ones. Now, either get someone with the same knowledge to assist JA or train up JA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borris Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Imagine the PR that would be created if Malthouse did come in to assist.- would be a big coup for us athought can seeing it happening imo. As fo JA as manager, why the f#ck not? its not like we are going to get a world class manager, so why not get a player that has played a bit (in different leagues in different countries) and give him a chance. i am more interestred in the signings he will make, hopefull we will get some decent players As for licences - sit in a class for 12 hrs and hey presto heres your certificate. no big deal Edited May 10, 2012 by borris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Looks like Milicic is on his way to West Sydney to be assistant to Popovic. It'll be a shame to lose the knowledge he's built at the club, but I think it was always on the cards after he missed the senior job. If the club was smart, they would already have a plan B and would now be ready to bring in an experienced assistant from the candidates they've been in contact with over the last couple of months. I can understand Milicic being disappointed because on paper he was the better candidate. But in missing out on the senior job, it might be best for both him and us that he moves on. I think we need someone with real stature and clout to help Aloisi, and we've now got the opportunity to get someone like that. If we don't already have someone in mind, then the whole process of choosing a coach will be looking pretty shabby - taking so long to decide, choosing the less experienced candidade, losing the assistant we already had, and now having to begin a search for another one. I'm trusting that they've already taken into account that picking Aloisi would likely mean Milicic would go, that Aloisi would need an experienced assistant, and they've already got one lined up. Hoping to hear about it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartMillsy29 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Really? Why would he leave to be assistant again at a new club? He's not gaining anything from going up there. Anyway good luck to him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Looks like Milicic is on his way to West Sydney to be assistant to Popovic. This is a mistake by FFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Looks like Milicic is on his way to West Sydney to be assistant to Popovic. It'll be a shame to lose the knowledge he's built at the club, but I think it was always on the cards after he missed the senior job. If the club was smart, they would already have a plan B and would now be ready to bring in an experienced assistant from the candidates they've been in contact with over the last couple of months. I can understand Milicic being disappointed because on paper he was the better candidate. But in missing out on the senior job, it might be best for both him and us that he moves on. I think we need someone with real stature and clout to help Aloisi, and we've now got the opportunity to get someone like that. If we don't already have someone in mind, then the whole process of choosing a coach will be looking pretty shabby - taking so long to decide, choosing the less experienced candidade, losing the assistant we already had, and now having to begin a search for another one. I'm trusting that they've already taken into account that picking Aloisi would likely mean Milicic would go, that Aloisi would need an experienced assistant, and they've already got one lined up. Hoping to hear about it soon. Sash, where have you picked that up? Anyway, I would have thought that the Board would have realised that Milicic would move after he had been passed over. So, if there isn't a 'Plan B', what a stuff-up! If Milicic does go we will have lost all three of our much-vaunted inaugural coaching team. Presumably if the NYL continues next year we will also be looking for a new youth coach. Edited May 14, 2012 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 This is a mistake by FFA. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Why? Because no Serbs will support the club with so much Croatian involvement. Might sound stupid to you guys, but you would be underestimating the levels of nationalism amongst members of these communities. They were already butthurt and ready to disregard the club when it was looking like either Popovic or Milicic would be manager, I assume that will only be multiplied with both of them appointed. For footballing reasons, its probably about as good as FFA would get, but apparently we choose our manager for marketing reasons, and Melbourne's large Greek community would have been a factor in Victory appointing Ange and it would have been part of why we were supposedly interested in him. So I dont think its unreasonable for FFA to have considered this when making appointments at West Sydney, especially since its a new club. Having said that, I dont know much about the demographics of West Sydney, but I assume there is a fairly large number of Serbs there, and they would now be less likely to support the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Sash, where have you picked that up? It's been reported on The World Game: Popovic announcement imminent Tony Popovic is expected to be confirmed within days as the head coach of the western Sydney A-League team with Melbourne Heart’s Ante Milicic as his assistant. Crystal Palace assistant Popovic, who knocked back the Sydney FC job last week, prefers the challenge of returning to his roots and building a team in the west. It is believed Popovic has lined up Milicic, his brother-in-law and teammate at Sydney United during his playing days, as his right hand man. Milicic is understood to be disappointed to have been pipped by John Aloisi for the head coaching role at Heart after the departure of John van’t Schip and has been seeking opportunities elsewhere. It is believed the pair have been in discussions since Popovic arrived back in Sydney a week ago and Milicic is willing to bring his family back to Sydney. Popovic believes Milicic would be the perfect understudy as he embarks on his first head coaching role after 14 months at Selhurst Park and a stint under Vitezslav Lavicka at Sydney FC. Football Federation Australia (FFA) is expected to confirm the double appointment imminently as it prepares the expansion side for entry into the 2012-2013 A-League season. Milicic was unwilling to divulge his intentions when contacted by The World Game last week, saying only: “Right now I have just gone through the process at Melbourne Heart and I am just going into the office each day. Until there is something different, here I am. “I am contracted to Melbourne Heart and that’s where my focus lies.” Edited May 14, 2012 by Sash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Because no Serbs will support the club with so much Croatian involvement. Might sound stupid to you guys, but you would be underestimating the levels of nationalism amongst members of these communities. They were already butthurt and ready to disregard the club when it was looking like either Popovic or Milicic would be manager, I assume that will only be multiplied with both of them appointed. For footballing reasons, its probably about as good as FFA would get, but apparently we choose our manager for marketing reasons, and Melbourne's large Greek community would have been a factor in Victory appointing Ange and it would have been part of why we were supposedly interested in him. So I dont think its unreasonable for FFA to have considered this when making appointments at West Sydney, especially since its a new club. Having said that, I dont know much about the demographics of West Sydney, but I assume there is a fairly large number of Serbs there, and they would now be less likely to support the team. Maybe they knew they could only go one way or the other and went for the Croats, due to Syd Utd stronger crowd numbers and active scene when compared to Bonnirigg's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) http://www.stsavacollege.net/en/faq/faq_3.aspx Approximately 35,000 Serbs in '...the south-west of Sydney.' Whether or not this has been considered part of the catchment area for West Sydney Wanderers I don't know. Back to what we do if and when Milicic leaves...I'd still like to see Mike Mulvey come on board one way or another. Edited May 14, 2012 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Maybe they knew they could only go one way or the other and went for the Croats, due to Syd Utd stronger crowd numbers and active scene when compared to Bonnirigg's... Maybe, but I would think Sydney Utd's support would go against them, as I dont see them switching teams. Back to what we do if and when Milicic leaves...I'd still like to see Mike Mulvey come on board one way or another. I concur. Edited May 14, 2012 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Mulvey does seem the most logical, whether it is possible is a question I can't answer. For some reason Aloisi sit's ok with me, time will tell how much he recognises the good qualities of the coaches he has been influenced by or associated with, his ability to implement and improvise his own plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Really? Why would he leave to be assistant again at a new club? He's not gaining anything from going up there. Anyway good luck to him... would you rather be an assitant under the man who just beat you to the job you desperately wanted, or work for a guy coming back from an assistant coaching role in england and most likely gain more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Anyone know what salary Aloisi is on? Saw this on wikipedia and it caught my attention "manager at Melbourne Heart where he has became the highest paid manager in Australian football". I find this highly doubtful as i would expect with his lack of experience he would be really cheap, and plus its wikipedia so not particularly reliable. just checking if anyone knows what he is actually on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Twg shits me, where is the Aloisi interview promised all week, their one eyed sydney bias really gets my goat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Anyone know what salary Aloisi is on? Saw this on wikipedia and it caught my attention "manager at Melbourne Heart where he has became the highest paid manager in Australian football". I find this highly doubtful as i would expect with his lack of experience he would be really cheap, and plus its wikipedia so not particularly reliable. just checking if anyone knows what he is actually on. Tesla, I think what has happened here is that the name 'John Aloisi' has been substituted for 'John van 't Schip' and the rest of the sentence was not changed. So 'highest paid' refers to JvS not JA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Also last time I looked @ that Wiki page the Squad Numbers were completely fucked up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Just read on 442.com.au that Ante Milicic is now our former Melbourne Heart coach and will be named as assistant to Tony Popovic at Western Sydney. I didn't know he left. Hopefully he will stay as our no.2 but it appears unlikely. http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/239850,popa-to-take-five-year-west-sydney-deal.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Tis all hearsay till you hear the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 ANTE Milicic has an escape clause in his Melbourne Heart contract but it is unlikely to be strong enough to allow him to join Brisbane Roar's coaching staff. The former Roar striker, overlooked for the Heart's head coach position this week, has a close relationship with Brisbane mentor Rado Vidosic. That friendship with Vidosic, added to his disappointment at being leapfrogged by John Aloisi for the Heart head coaching role, has led to speculation that Milicic could be set for a return to the Roar, who have a spot to fill in their coaching ranks. But Heart chief executive Scott Munn said that for Milicic to be released from the final year of his coaching contract, it could only be for "career progression". In other words, Milicic's out clause would only allow him to leave his assistant coaching role at Heart for a head coach position at a rival club. Two A-League clubs - Sydney FC and the new Western Sydney franchise - remain coachless, with Milicic understood to be a contender for both roles despite Tony Popovic being the preferred option of both clubs. From http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/contract-snag-bars-milicics-return/story-fn6ck6f9-1226352406332 11th May. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Well Sydney has now employed Ian Crook as Head Coach, so that only leaves Western Sydney... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Yep, 'Crook' could take over from 'Heart' in the pun stakes in the near future. The FFA has unwittingly(?) started something with its headline of 'Crook takes over at Sydney FC.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Crook Sydney Has Heart Attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 correct me if im wrong, but wasnt Popovic offered a 5 year deal? if so, he would be more likely to become head coach of us before Western Sydney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandev Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Millicic Is gone. Overheard him talking on phone about his accomodation arrangements this weekend in Sydney. It a shame. Wish he got our he'd coaching gig. With his foundation club experience, he'd be very attractive target for W Syd. Bugger! He's technical skills were highly rated, even by my mate who's a VPl manager! But I'd welcome a surprise from JA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Fuck me, sick of the A-league musical chairs Carnt cunts who sign a contract stick by their club ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 MELBOURNE Heart is bracing for applications from a slew of interested contenders for a vacant assistant coaching position if, as it suspects, Ante Milicic quits to join A-League newcomer West Sydney. Milicic was a contender to replace former Heart coach John van 't Schip but the head coaching role at the club went to the other assistant, John Aloisi, who is in Europe completing his coaching badges. Opinion is mounting that Milicic will return to work with close friend Tony Popovic, West Sydney's inaugural coach. Heart is looking for two assistants to work with its rookie manager, who has never held a top job and whose sole season of coaching was last year with Heart's youth team. One of the assistants will work as Aloisi's No. 2, while the other will succeed him with the youth team although their input is also likely for assistance with the first team Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/a-league/heart-on-lookout-for-aloisi-assistant-20120520-1yyw9.html#ixzz1vQ4CSfQC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Millicic Is gone. Overheard him talking on phone about his accomodation arrangements this weekend in Sydney. It a shame. Wish he got our he'd coaching gig. With his foundation club experience, he'd be very attractive target for W Syd. Bugger! He's technical skills were highly rated, even by my mate who's a VPl manager! But I'd welcome a surprise from JA. Always going to happen once Aloisi got the nod. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Most of us would be happy if we got, say, Mike Mulvey into the Heart structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandev Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Always going to happen once Aloisi got the nod. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Most of us would be happy if we got, say, Mike Mulvey into the Heart structure. +1 Just wish we Snap him up, before we are left with a second chice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Crook Sydney Has Heart Attack. lol. A-League is the league in the world with the most puns. Crook is just another on the long list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 http://www.theage.com.au/sport/a-league/heart-to-shop-local-as-milicic-departs-20120522-1z380.html Ron Smith, Dave Mitchell and Stuart Munro. That has to be a gee up. Sign any of those guys and the proactive playing style (which is meant to be one of the key identities of the club) is out the door IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 http://www.theage.co...0522-1z380.html Ron Smith, Dave Mitchell and Stuart Munro. That has to be a gee up. Sign any of those guys and the proactive playing style (which is meant to be one of the key identities of the club) is out the door IMO. Oh my f*cking god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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