Dylan Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think its more likely he is on something around 120k which I think is still reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTD/MLBHRT/ESSNDON Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 120k a season? No way more like $50k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think its more likely he is on something around 120k which I think is still reasonable.No chance. $70k max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalHeart Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think all players including the Hoff deserve a fresh start under the new regime. We all know he has good natural ability and great fitness. With the world class coaching we will have in place soon enough I think he can improve and continue to be a versatile squaddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) I think all players including the Hoff deserve a fresh start under the new regime. We all know he has good natural ability and great fitness. With the world class coaching we will have in place soon enough I think he can improve and continue to be a versatile squaddie. He has been in the A League system for over six years... and peaked in his first year.   If he was a horse he would either be jumping at Warrnambool or turned into Glue. Edited March 27, 2014 by cadete 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Why would a person 'work' full time as a professional footballer for minimum wage? Â He can work in a factory packing plastic and earn more than $50k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Why would a person 'work' full time as a professional footballer for minimum wage? Â He can work in a factory packing plastic and earn more than $50k! Because most Footballers usually have an undying belief (Right until they can barely walk anymore and have to retire) that they can still improve and become a better player... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Why would a person 'work' full time as a professional footballer for minimum wage? Â He can work in a factory packing plastic and earn more than $50k! Median annual salary for full time employees in Australia is around 55k so it really isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Â Â If he was a horse he would either be jumping at Warrnambool or turned into Glue. Â ... or be a little girl's pet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Just wish someone else would be given a chance tbh.  What would be the difference in giving a young player a chance over playing hoff? A youth player at least has the chance to get better, does anyone honestly believe hoffman can get better?  Hoffmans had more than enough chances, he blew it, and should've been moved on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Think most on here are a bit unfair to the Hoff. It the rest if the team had shown his consistency we would all be looking forward to finals. His job is to defend first and he has don't that well most weeks. Think only Sidnei gave him the run around. Hoff is here to stay. Walker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'd gladly get paid 50k a year to play games with my mates and be a professional athlete. Good lifestyle, you stay healthy and well looked after, and especially with City rocking up it would be pretty exciting to have the prospect of being able to see how they operate from the inside. Â I like Hoffman. He is certainly nothing amazing but he is a success story of someone who has worked hard and persisted and through a little bit of luck has managed to make somewhat of a career in soccer. Many of my favourite sportsmen have been guys whose endeavour and will to work have made up for their lack of ability, and I'd rather the consistent, reliable, professional Hoffman than the inconsistent and all too lazy players like Gol Gol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Think most on here are a bit unfair to the Hoff. It the rest if the team had shown his consistency we would all be looking forward to finals. His job is to defend first and he has don't that well most weeks. Think only Sidnei gave him the run around. Hoff is here to stay. Walker. There's no doubting that he's consistent, the issue is his overall contribution to the team style and effectiveness. It isn't high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae7smith Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The A-league does seem to have a real lack of quality RB/LB's, so I'm not too fussed about the re-signing of Hoff. He's pretty steady choice, wholly uninspiring but means we don't have to fork out more cash for a Franjic/Rose type player or use up a visa spot on the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 The A-league does seem to have a real lack of quality RB/LB's, so I'm not too fussed about the re-signing of Hoff. He's pretty steady choice, wholly uninspiring but means we don't have to fork out more cash for a Franjic/Rose type player or use up a visa spot on the position. That would be fine of we didn't have a style of play that creates width through attacking RB and LBs. They are 2 of our most important positions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjen_nooooo Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 It's not that hard to believe that in a squad you would have squad players, the great, average, middle-road consistency players, of which Hoffman is from. Â But I like the direction this thread is heading in. The seriousness we are treating Hoffman's re-signing can only escalate. Â Hoffman for Aussie Marquee at the end of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Hoffnation Edited March 28, 2014 by Ando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoffmania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoffmiliation 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Cult figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 The HOFFinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoffmediocrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjen_nooooo Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff's average consistency means that he maintains a level that is above "mediocre" and below "significant contribution".   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Might as well give him a go as goalkeeper, can't be worse than Redmayne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Hoff's average consistency means that he maintains a level that is above "mediocre" and below "significant contribution".   I'd rate him as mediocre not bad, however we are trying to improve from mediocre! I have nothing against him personally Edited March 28, 2014 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I have tried to watch him as much as possible at home games and I agree with most that when he attacks he usually stops and normally passes back. But I think his defending has been great, his tackles are so clean and quick and against brisbane he did a great job on Borich Edited March 28, 2014 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Serious question: who is the worst regular player for Brisbane and how does he compare to Hoff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think bela might need to be banned from 'The Jason Hoffman Appreciation Thread' as he is clearly not appreciating #HoffNation to the required level 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I think bela might need to be banned from 'The Jason Hoffman Appreciation Thread' as he is clearly not appreciating #HoffNation to the required level I'm doing the best I can 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited)  Hoff's average consistency means that he maintains a level that is above "mediocre" and below "significant contribution".   I'd rate him as mediocre not bad, however we are trying to improve from mediocre! I have nothing against him personally   True, but due to the salary cap requirement of this league we can't have a squad full of top class (compared to the rest of league) players.  We need to be able to spend well and identify value for money where possible. If Hoff is on a small wage then I have no problem with this signing, he's a handy player who can do a decent job in a number of positions.  I'd be more concerned that we're keeping Redmayne to be honest, especially since I fear he may be on a semi-decent salary. Edited March 28, 2014 by King Malta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I also have concerns about Redmayne, however I can't see Hoffman being a proportional contributor to a Premiership winning team given the style we want to play. I hope that I'm wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014   Hoff's average consistency means that he maintains a level that is above "mediocre" and below "significant contribution".   I'd rate him as mediocre not bad, however we are trying to improve from mediocre! I have nothing against him personally   True, but due to the salary cap requirement of this league we can't have a squad full of top class (compared to the rest of league) players.  We need to be able to spend well and identify value for money where possible. If Hoff is on a small wage then I have no problem with this signing, he's a handy player who can do a decent job in a number of positions.  I'd be more concerned that we're keeping Redmayne to be honest, especially since I fear he may be on a semi-decent salary.  That's true. Indeed, the salary cap is (partly) intended to level out the clubs so that they all have a chance of winning the competition, unlike a number of overseas leagues where there is a handful of clubs regularly at the top and the remainder just make up the numbers.  If we draw up an aggregate league table for the four seasons for the present ten clubs I wonder how we fare - we will be in the bottom four for sure.  So I think it reasonable that Heart supporters are asking the questions that we are asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014    Hoff's average consistency means that he maintains a level that is above "mediocre" and below "significant contribution".   I'd rate him as mediocre not bad, however we are trying to improve from mediocre! I have nothing against him personally   True, but due to the salary cap requirement of this league we can't have a squad full of top class (compared to the rest of league) players.  We need to be able to spend well and identify value for money where possible. If Hoff is on a small wage then I have no problem with this signing, he's a handy player who can do a decent job in a number of positions.  I'd be more concerned that we're keeping Redmayne to be honest, especially since I fear he may be on a semi-decent salary.  That's true. Indeed, the salary cap is (partly) intended to level out the clubs so that they all have a chance of winning the competition, unlike a number of overseas leagues where there is a handful of clubs regularly at the top and the remainder just make up the numbers.  If we draw up an aggregate league table for the four seasons for the present ten clubs I wonder how we fare - we will be in the bottom four for sure.  So I think it reasonable that Heart supporters are asking the questions that we are asking.   Oh I can definitely understand the apprehension mate, I just think we need to try and let this new Administration do some work before we get too worried.  We're not going to turn into the best club in the league overnight but I honestly believe the City Group will be doing their best to get us there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff is boss. The rest can jog. Build the team around his greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 the one telling point from the match against Brisbane on the 28th of March was : when Weilaart came of THE CAPTAINS ARMBAND WENT TO THE HOFF who would ever have thought that ? Â THE HOFF WILL BE LEADING THE HEART NEXT SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 the one telling point from the match against Brisbane on the 28th of March was : when Weilaart came of THE CAPTAINS ARMBAND WENT TO THE HOFF who would ever have thought that ?  THE HOFF WILL BE LEADING THE HEART NEXT SEASON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was simply made fourth in line for captain this season (I think Gerhardt was third? I'm sure I saw him with the armband once?). I doubt they put much thought in to choosing fourth in line (or even third if that was the case). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Really? I thought he was captain because we wanted to make the sub quickly and he was closest to Wileart at the time. I wouldn't read too much into it. Edited March 31, 2014 by The Aardvark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Lol at everyone getting all up in arms at Hoffman getting the armband. Has no significance whatsoever. Although I have to say the good thing about it is its funny watching the haters get all worked up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Really? I thought he was captain because we wanted to make the sub quickly and he was closest to Wileart at the time. I wouldn't read too much into it. Wasn't he captain in a preseason friendly or two? But you could be right. Whatever the case not really important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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