HEARTinator Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Why would he leave Wellington? So he can win a Melbourne derby and stick one up the Tards who he still feels shafted him. Or maybe he might think we've got shit management and he's better off staying in Welli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Archie makes it so damn easy for us to hate his fucking guts.We are pretty easy to troll tbh We all know Archie likes a soft target! /fat target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 play a 4-3-2-1 pls best match up to play vs them. Redmayne Walker---------Wielaert---------------Kisnorbo---------------Aziz Gerhardt Migliorini------------------------Murdocca Kewell-----------Mauk Mifsud Even though Walker isnt in the squad ffs Just think we need more width down the left especially. Geria makes Hoffman look like a decent RB and can easily be exploited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lol. It's like people think we care about having a small supporterbase. Love following an underdog tbh 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Out. Taking the piss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Out. Taking the piss? Still painting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lol. It's like people think we care about having a small supporterbase. Love following an underdog tbh I wholeheartedly agree, I just can't stand Archie being a righteous cunt about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 This would be the best formation if we were allowed to have 12 players on the pitch. Ahaha fuck. Apologies. It should be Kewell or Kalmar. Even though I'd love both to be on the pitch, it doesn't seem likely. Maybe if Kalmar could play as a deeper midfielder. An out and out CM instead of a number ten. Then Kewell could fit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 play a 4-3-2-1 pls best match up to play vs them. Redmayne Walker---------Wielaert---------------Kisnorbo---------------Aziz Gerhardt Migliorini------------------------Murdocca Kewell-----------Mauk Mifsud Even though Walker isnt in the squad ffs Just think we need more width down the left especially. Geria makes Hoffman look like a decent RB and can easily be exploited. i agree - i like playing with wingers as well. but, how much confidence have our wide players given you that they could break down a defence? none of them warrant a starting sport - so why play them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Yes, piss was taken. I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 play a 4-3-2-1 pls best match up to play vs them. Redmayne Walker---------Wielaert---------------Kisnorbo---------------Aziz Gerhardt Migliorini------------------------Murdocca Kewell-----------Mauk Mifsud Even though Walker isnt in the squad ffs Just think we need more width down the left especially. Geria makes Hoffman look like a decent RB and can easily be exploited. i agree - i like playing with wingers as well. but, how much confidence have our wide players given you that they could break down a defence? none of them warrant a starting sport - so why play them? It's pretty much the only remaining thing that Aloisi does that JVS also did, play in a formation that uses 2 wide players. We might not keep possession, pass through midfield, promote youth or play in an attacking style, but Aloisi rather dogmatically persists with 2 wide players (who become much less effective when you stop doing all the other things that Aloisi stopped doing). I agree, it probably would be worth trying a formation without wingers/wide players. Or I think we could have tried playing with 3 defenders at the back. And I also think we could/should have played more young players. There have been so many options worth trying that Aloisi has overlooked (another option: David Davutovic recommended in an article that we stop playing Williams as a 10 and pretty much play a 442 with Williams being played a forward). For better or for worse, I expect Aloisi to persist playing 2 wide players as long as he is head coach at Heart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Superstar Harry Kewell can give winless Melbourne their Heart David Davutovic Herald Sun December 20, 2013 LEFT-BACK Aziz Behich has revealed that Harry Kewell's ability on the ball will give him and his Melbourne Heart teammates the confidence to take risks in tomorrow's derby at AAMI Park. Kewell is set to start his first game since the Round 1 derby having come off the bench in the last two weeks after missing seven games with whiplash and an ankle injury. Heart is desperate for a win with pressure mounting on coach John Aloisi whose team is winless and bottom of the table with the board expecting the team to play ``deep into the finals''. But Behich, an attacking left-back who barely got forward in the opening round derby draw at Etihad Stadium and has had an under-par season, said he can be more adventurous when the ball is at his captain's feet. "When he's got the ball he's capable of producing anything, hopefully on the weekend he can show a lot of that,'' Behich said. ``If he's looking one way without you even realising he knows where you are and can spot you out. ``He gets into good positions, little pockets and the balls he plays forward are very dangerous for the opposition to defend. ``Just with his experience and leadership on the park, when he's got the ball he's confident and obviously we know what he can do. ``I try to pick my times when to get forward, I try to feel the right moments to go forward. As the weeks have gone on, it's been easier with the flow of the game and keeping the ball allows me to get more forward.'' Behich, a former Victory player who joined Heart in season one, said the players are up for tomorrow's game. He said the return of Kewell and striker Dylan Macallister has added an edge to training. ``The players are pretty confident because we do always perform well in the derby, it's a game our team has always been up for and it won't be any different,'' he said. ``We analysed the Sydney game and what we could do better, it's a different game plan playing Victory and hopefully we can turn it around. ``It is very important (to get some wins on the board over the festive period), we're 10 games in now and it's something we've looked at and what better way to start than derby. ``There's positive signs with Harry back and Dylan back training, bit more competitive at training now for spots.'' http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/superstar-harry-kewell-can-give-winless-melbourne-their-heart/story-fnk6rlg0-1226786930922 Edited December 19, 2013 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 If you read between the lines, basically even the players know they're fucked unless Harry's out there. That's just depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Redmayne Gerhardt - Kisnorbo - Weileart Ramsay ---------------------------------------- Behich Migliorini ----- Murdocca Kewell Williams - Mifsud Because yolo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 play a 4-3-2-1 pls best match up to play vs them. Redmayne Walker---------Wielaert---------------Kisnorbo---------------Aziz Gerhardt Migliorini------------------------Murdocca Kewell-----------Mauk Mifsud Even though Walker isnt in the squad ffs Just think we need more width down the left especially. Geria makes Hoffman look like a decent RB and can easily be exploited. i agree - i like playing with wingers as well. but, how much confidence have our wide players given you that they could break down a defence? none of them warrant a starting sport - so why play them? It's pretty much the only remaining thing that Aloisi does that JVS also did, play in a formation that uses 2 wide players. We might not keep possession, pass through midfield, promote youth or play in an attacking style, but Aloisi rather dogmatically persists with 2 wide players (who become much less effective when you stop doing all the other things that Aloisi stopped doing). I agree, it probably would be worth trying a formation without wingers/wide players. Or I think we could have tried playing with 3 defenders at the back. And I also think we could/should have played more young players. There have been so many options worth trying that Aloisi has overlooked (another option: David Davutovic recommended in an article that we stop playing Williams as a 10 and pretty much play a 442 with Williams being played a forward). For better or for worse, I expect Aloisi to persist playing 2 wide players as long as he is head coach at Heart. if we played a 4-4-2 it would end up a 4-2-4 because our wide players are naturally wingers, not wide midfielders - theres a big difference. I agree with what you've said, and Aloisi will be using wingers while he remains our manager. but why? They never score or make a chance for someone else, spur easy chances, cough up the ball easily, dont pressure enough when defending, are inconsistent etc... IMO Aziz is more likely to score/assist than Ramsey, and thats saying something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I honestly had a dream last night that we won the derby and started our surge up there ladder. Just can't remember who was coaching on the sidelines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I really dont understand why PPL bother posting sides not in the same formation our club has used for its entire existence... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 If you read between the lines, basically even the players know they're fucked unless Harry's out there. That's just depressing. not just the players, JA attests that Harry is the Savior to our "different" style of play, he as much said this when I spoke with him at Sydney airport last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Redmayne Gerhardt - Kisnorbo - Weileart Ramsay ---------------------------------------- Behich Migliorini ----- Murdocca Kewell Williams - Mifsud Because yolo.. Well JA will be coaching his last game so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I honestly had a dream last night that we won the derby and started our surge up there ladder. Just can't remember who was coaching on the sidelines. You know what they say about dreams. When you dream something, the opposite happens. I bloody hope im wrong as fuck though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I can't fucking wait to beat these cunts. Took the weekend off work so I can make the trip up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 You know what they say about dreams. That the idea that people would be interested in the things you imagined whilst not even conscious is one of the stupidest misconceptions society holds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalHeart Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Anyone know if this one is sold out? Or close to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) I just realised, all Heart Premium C (Reserve) all gone! My dad has a GA membership and hasn't even paid the $4 to guarantee himself a seat. What now?? But how the hell can it be exhausted if it's GA for GA members? It doesn't make sense. Edited December 19, 2013 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 I just realised, all Heart Premium C (Reserve) all gone! My dad has a GA membership and hasn't even paid the $4 to guarantee himself a seat. What now?? But how the hell can it be exhausted if it's GA for GA members? It doesn't make sense. because all the unreserved seats will be sold to Visitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I just realised, all Heart Premium C (Reserve) all gone! My dad has a GA membership and hasn't even paid the $4 to guarantee himself a seat. What now?? But how the hell can it be exhausted if it's GA for GA members? It doesn't make sense. because all the unreserved seats will be sold to Visitors That is silly. So my dad (as well as many others) will miss the derby unless they upgrade to premium A or B despite have a membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Williams is an interesting player. I've always thought that he could do more damage as an out-and-out striker. Pace, stamina and a powerful shot (albeit an inaccurate one most of the time) make him an ideal forward. Plus he isn't all that small either. Also, I would love to see a 3-5-2. Behich and Walker are both natural wing-backs. Play Wielart, Vranks and Kisnorbo at the back and utilise the pace of Behich and Walker to give us width. Then play Kewell and Kalmar as the two midfielders and play Murdocca or Gerhardt as the DM. Mifsud and Williams as the two forwards. That way, we would still have enough width to stretch defences and open up the middle for Kewell and Kalmar. Plus, scoring is tough for us with just one striker (in poor form too). I have a feeling that with two strikers, we could wreak more havoc, hold possession in the forward third and hopefully put more into the back of the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Only x amount of GA seats and we had our chance to purchase them before they were opened to the General Public. I think that is fair enough. People shouldn't have to miss out on seats that are held for members who might not go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Heart to win 2-1 and subsequently break the Wanderers' record of 10 consecutive wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 People shouldn't have to miss out on seats that are held for members who might not go.That's a great point and the reason why they wanted the GA members to reserve a seat. But I think most of them aren't happy because of the lack of communication with those who don't use the internet/social media as they wouldn't know too much about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Watched victory train before, look very sharp although that means nothing when out on the park. However realistically I wouldn't say its 50/50 chance of winning, more a 30/70 chance. On a side note I saw engelaar and germano walking spring aami park, engelaar is a farken huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I just realised, all Heart Premium C (Reserve) all gone! My dad has a GA membership and hasn't even paid the $4 to guaranteehimself a seat. What now?? But how the hell can it be exhausted if it's GA for GA members? It doesn't make sense. because all the unreserved seats will be sold to Visitors That is silly. So my dad (as well as many others) will miss the derby unless they upgrade to premium A or B despite have a membership. The concept is quite simple really, in order to maximise attendance the club require all members that DON'T have reserved seats to reserve them for this match as it is likely to be a sell out. The $4 fee or whatever it is is a fee from Ticketek who are the carrier and charge all of their clients that in order to make money. You'll see that with any ticket you buy online. Any seats that are then not taken up by members are then offered to the public who will buy them. If its not a sell out in the GA on match day, GA members will be able to get access as a walk up. The club make no money from the $4 charge, but make money if someone doesn't attend and they can sell the ticket to someone else. Fair game really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 If you read between the lines, basically even the players know they're fucked unless Harry's out there. Because Aloisi has strongly implied this in every single press conference this season. I know it's easy to start blaming him for everything but this is one of his major failings imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Watched victory train before, look very sharp although that means nothing when out on the park. However realistically I wouldn't say its 50/50 chance of winning, more a 30/70 chance. On a side note I saw engelaar and germano walking spring aami park, engelaar is a farken huge. Quick, get on to Aloisi and let him know what you saw. He might then be able to adjust his tactics on game day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 ...adjust his tactics on game day ...adjust his tactics on game day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I just realised, all Heart Premium C (Reserve) all gone! My dad has a GA membership and hasn't even paid the $4 to guaranteehimself a seat. What now?? But how the hell can it be exhausted if it's GA for GA members? It doesn't make sense. because all the unreserved seats will be sold to Visitors That is silly. So my dad (as well as many others) will miss the derby unless they upgrade to premium A or B despite have a membership. The concept is quite simple really, in order to maximise attendance the club require all members that DON'T have reserved seats to reserve them for this match as it is likely to be a sell out. The $4 fee or whatever it is is a fee from Ticketek who are the carrier and charge all of their clients that in order to make money. You'll see that with any ticket you buy online. Any seats that are then not taken up by members are then offered to the public who will buy them. If its not a sell out in the GA on match day, GA members will be able to get access as a walk up. The club make no money from the $4 charge, but make money if someone doesn't attend and they can sell the ticket to someone else. Fair game really. You have missed the point. My pensioner dad has not heard of twitter, Facebook and emails let alone that at least one of them to receive communications from the club. I'm sure there are many others in that boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 What do you propose the club do instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 (edited) Nothing to propose. Status quo as for every other game. If a GA member, or any other member for that matter, do not attend so be it. Shouldn't have to reserve a seat with a charge. Edited December 20, 2013 by Tony999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 GA is GA. If you dont want to pay for a reserved seat, you just need to get an active area membership which doesnt cost any more then your standard GA membership. In any other sport if a game looks close to being sold out, GA members have to reserve a seat. Heart supporters arent any different. Will be better to actually see a full stadium then patches like we normally do cause of GA members not rocking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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