John Aloisi

[Nate]

Unlucky:

 

- To not win a game in 10 games.

- To not win an away game in 22 months

- To score once in 5 games.

 

Not!  Murdocca is the only one who speaks the truth because he's won 4 titles and knows when he hears bullshit.

What did Mass say?

[Murfy1]

After winless start to the season the next month could decide Aloisi's coaching fate

 

Matt Windley Herald Sun November 11, 2013

 

MELBOURNE Heart coach John Aloisi has the club's full support according to chief executive Scott Munn despite its winless start to the season.

 

Munn acknowledged the growing pressure on the bottom-of-the-table Heart ahead of Friday night's crunch clash with Sydney FC at AAMI Park, but said it was no more pressure than the club puts on itself to succeed.

 

Aloisi has won just eight of the 32 games since taking over from John van't Schip at the start of 2012/13 and the club has been held scoreless in four of the five games it has played this season.

 

While "disappointed" with the start to the season Munn insisted "we're not hitting the panic button", especially in regards to the coach.

 

"At the end of last season we performed an extensive review of all facets of the business and particularly the football department," Munn said.

 

"We knew that we needed to invest in both our players and also the support around John and we've done that. We continue to work with everyone in the football department to make sure that we achieve our goal, which is success and nothing's changed from that.

"I met this morning, as I always do on a Monday morning, with (football operations manager) John Didulica and John Aloisi and I think from our perspective we just need to remain focused and take those opportunities that are there.

 

"What we're not going to do though is rest on our laurels and say 'gee we're playing good football, our luck will turn', we need to make sure that we make it turn and create some of our own destiny."

 

Munn said he is "happy" with the current coaching structure at Heart, pointing to the off-season acquisition of former Liverpool FC assistant Gerard Nus and return of inaugural coach van 't Schip as technical manager.

 

Van 't Schip's role is not a full-time one, but he is due to return from Holland next week for a six-week stint in Melbourne.

 

"Clearly we continue to monitor everything and make changes if we need to, but certainly for us we're not hitting the panic button," Munn said.

 

"As everyone is we're disappointed with the results. We ask hard questions and we want answers and we'll continue to work with everyone, but the mood among the players is positive, we just have to start finding the back of the net."

 

Munn said the weekend's crowd of 8070 against Western Sydney, played at a rainswept AAMI Park, was down on initial budgets.

 

But the club is expecting as many as 11,000 for the clash with Alessandro Del Piero's Sky Blues on Friday.

 

"Membership is up on this time last year, we know that, but there's no question that Del Piero has an impact," Munn said.

 

"He's one of the biggest names globally in football, not just here, so we do see that. We had a great crowd (when he played in Melbourne) last year."

 

HEART UNDER JOHN ALOISI

season // win // draw // loss // GF // GA // pos

 

2012/13 8 3 16 31 40 9th

 

2013/14 0 2 3 2 7 10th

 

Total: P32 W8 D5 L19 Win% 25

 

THE THREE WEEKS THAT COULD MAKE OR BREAK J.A

 

Friday Sydney FC AAMI Park

 

Nov 24 Newcastle Hunter Stadium

 

Dec 1 Adelaide AAMI Park

 

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/after-winless-start-to-the-season-the-next-month-could-decide-aloisis-coaching-fate/story-fnk6rldh-1226757682332

Edited November 11, 2013 by Murfy1

[Peter]

Ah yes, the old vote of confidence.

[heart_fan10]

next 3 weeks we play teams that realistically we should finish above at the end of the season. If we can't get wins in at least 2 of the next 3 games then Aloisi should be sacked

[malloy]

Ah yes, the old vote of confidence.

Best news to come out of the club. Means he probably has max two weeks left.

[n i k o]

Adelaide game is irrelevant no matter what happens win, lose or draw, and to some extent the Newcastle game also, depending on our result this Friday. The Sydney game is a must win, lose that and it should be lights out. No more bullshit and no more what ifs. This club wants to be a winner then it must start thinking like one, cause this loser mentality is like a disease that slowly spreads throughout the club. The same loser mentality that puts clubs like wsw up on a pedestal and makes it ok to dismiss the loss last week. If we lose against sydney that's only 2 points from a possible 18. Makes me feel disgusted just the thought of it.

Edited November 11, 2013 by n i k o

[theresonlyonebzamora]

"What we're not going to do though is rest on our laurels and say 'gee we're playing good football, our luck will turn'

Isn't that what Aloisi keeps saying? That our luck will turn cause we're 'playing well'?

[Tommykins]

Aloisi will be have been made or broken as a coach by Christmas, we really don't need a bad showing at home in the derby.

[n i k o]

Aloisi will be have been made or broken as a coach by Christmas, we really don't need a bad showing at home in the derby.

I disagree. Are you saying we could be winless in the next five matches and then the derby will be a deciding factor???

[Melburnian]

"What we're not going to do though is rest on our laurels and say 'gee we're playing good football, our luck will turn'

Isn't that what Aloisi keeps saying? That our luck will turn cause we're 'playing well'?

Yep. This quote is not a good sign for Aloisi.

[belaguttman]

Adelaide game is irrelevant no matter what happens win, lose or draw, and to some extent the Newcastle game also, depending on our result this Friday. The Sydney game is a must win, lose that and it should be lights out. No more bullshit and no more what ifs. This club wants to be a winner then it must start thinking like one, cause this loser mentality is like a disease that slowly spreads throughout the club. The same loser mentality that puts clubs like wsw up on a pedestal and makes it ok to dismiss the loss last week. If we lose against sydney that's only 2 points from a possible 18. Makes me feel disgusted just the thought of it.

Whatever happens at AAMI Park, how could we seriously retain a coach without being able to win an away game? Newcastle is even more important, especially if we are lucky enough to score against Sydney and even win

[theresonlyonebzamora]

i was joking last week that the sydney board suggesting that farina had 'full backing' was a tell tale sign he was on notice to be sacked.

 

looks like JA is in the same boat

[AyeCee]

Both will probs be sacked in the event of a nill all draw, so we'll just switch coaches.

Makes sense.

[n i k o]

Adelaide game is irrelevant no matter what happens win, lose or draw, and to some extent the Newcastle game also, depending on our result this Friday. The Sydney game is a must win, lose that and it should be lights out. No more bullshit and no more what ifs. This club wants to be a winner then it must start thinking like one, cause this loser mentality is like a disease that slowly spreads throughout the club. The same loser mentality that puts clubs like wsw up on a pedestal and makes it ok to dismiss the loss last week. If we lose against sydney that's only 2 points from a possible 18. Makes me feel disgusted just the thought of it.

Whatever happens at AAMI Park, how could we seriously retain a coach without being able to win an away game? Newcastle is even more important, especially if we are lucky enough to score against Sydney and even win

No we can't retain him without winning away. But a loss to sydney will be 3 matches at home where we would have taken 1 point from a possible 9. To me Newcastle is irrelevant in that scenario. The only time the Newcastle game will come into play in determining aloisis job is if we win against sydney.

[belaguttman]

niko we want to win the Premiership, we can't do that with a coach who can't win away. If we lose against Jets that will be a record losing streak. That in itself is enough

[jw1739]

I'm fed up with JA's negative mindset.

 

Statements such as "WSW are the best-organised team in the league." Why say that about your opponents - it's mental preparation for losing. More to the point, why aren't Heart the best-organised team in the league?

[n i k o]

niko we want to win the Premiership, we can't do that with a coach who can't win away. If we lose against Jets that will be a record losing streak. That in itself is enough

I'm guessing your misunderstanding what I'm saying. If we lose to sydney aloisi should be gotten rid of. I don't want to wait for the Newcastle game and don't see the point. We have had no wins, one draw and three loses at hunter stadium. Losing to sydney is a fail already let alone letting him be in charge of an away game we have never won.

[n i k o]

I'm fed up with JA's negative mindset. Statements such as "WSW are the best-organised team in the league." Why say that about your opponents - it's mental preparation for losing. More to the point, why aren't Heart the best-organised team in the league?

Because putting the pussy up on the pedestal is the easiest excuse for him.

[belaguttman]

 

niko we want to win the Premiership, we can't do that with a coach who can't win away. If we lose against Jets that will be a record losing streak. That in itself is enough

I'm guessing your misunderstanding what I'm saying. If we lose to sydney aloisi should be gotten rid of. I don't want to wait for the Newcastle game and don't see the point. We have had no wins, one draw and three loses at hunter stadium. Losing to sydney is a fail already let alone letting him be in charge of an away game we have never won.

 

We agree on that, but winning against Sydney and still being unable to win away from home is also unacceptable

[n i k o]

Agree with that as well

[TheGaffer]

We can't win at home and we can't win away......maybe we should try and play a game at the moon maybe.

Last win was nearly 9 months ago.....not bloody good enough for a professional football team.

 

One would hope that Munn and Co. have a ready made replacement when the inevitable happens and Aloisi is given his marching orders.

[Heart Inaugural]

One would hope that Munn and Co. have a ready made replacement when the inevitable happens and Aloisi is given his marching orders.

 

+1 but it also worries me that these people were also involved in the decision making (mostly Didulica) that chose JA over a more experienced AM.

 

[Dylan]

We can't win at home and we can't win away......maybe we should try and play a game at the moon maybe.

Last win was nearly 9 months ago.....not bloody good enough for a professional football team.

One would hope that Munn and Co. have a ready made replacement when the inevitable happens and Aloisi is given his marching orders.

I'd say that's why Nus was hired...

[Peter]

In fairness to JA, I think he is doing a good job of protecting his players from too much criticism from the media by talking them up, and then going on about our tactics. The flip side of this is that he has to protect his players from criticism and our tactics aren't working.

[Jestr]

In fairness to JA, I think he is doing a good job of protecting his players from too much criticism from the media by talking them up, and then going on about our tactics. The flip side of this is that he has to protect his players from criticism and our tactics aren't working.

As a manager it is important to be positive but at times you must take the hair dryer out to make your point clearly understood by all.

Anyone can deliver a good news.

JA has to be honest and critical directly after the game, not wait till next day.

This soft, caring, fluffy approach is getting us nowhere

[Torn Asunder]

RW & MM were more truthful in their assessment of our team in their brief post match interviews than JA has been during his entire tenure as coach. The players want to win ... those with experience no why we are not winning ... Change is inevitable

[thedukeofhearts]

After each game I get pissed JA's interviews. You can be tough and direct while still being supportive of your players. I think half of ja's problems seem to be communication. All he has to do is say, we did this and this well, but this this and this we need to improve to go forward and as a team we will fix it. Shows he's aware of the problems but doesn't make the players feel like shit but also makes them aware of what they have to improve in. All we get is soft cock answers and leave everything thinking WTF ??
All my best coaches and teachers were able to communicate this. You respected them and knew where you stood. It made you want to work and improve for them. You got a pat on the back when it was earned and deserved but also got pulled in to line because you knew they were trying to get the best out of you. JA's just has a soft image to me and it rubs off on the team.

[belaguttman]

What you are describing is the requirement to be critical (in the true meaning of the word), not attacking but also not minimising the truth.

[Parrot]

 

We can't win at home and we can't win away......maybe we should try and play a game at the moon maybe.

Last win was nearly 9 months ago.....not bloody good enough for a professional football team.

One would hope that Munn and Co. have a ready made replacement when the inevitable happens and Aloisi is given his marching orders.

I'd say that's why Nus was hired...

 

 

In the 2012-2013 season, Gerard worked at Brighton & Hove Albion FC (English Championship Team) as Head of Academy Coaching. By that time, he had the great chance to work close to another successful and knowledgeable manager, Gustavo Poyet. Gerard parted company with the club by mutual consent in January 2013. At http://gerardnus.com/background.php

[Dylan]

We can't win at home and we can't win away......maybe we should try and play a game at the moon maybe.

Last win was nearly 9 months ago.....not bloody good enough for a professional football team.

One would hope that Munn and Co. have a ready made replacement when the inevitable happens and Aloisi is given his marching orders.

I'd say that's why Nus was hired...

In the 2012-2013 season, Gerard worked at Brighton & Hove Albion FC (English Championship Team) as Head of Academy Coaching. By that time, he had the great chance to work close to another successful and knowledgeable manager, Gustavo Poyet. Gerard parted company with the club by mutual consent in January 2013. At http://gerardnus.com/background.php

Compared to 1 year coaching at an Aleauge youth team.

Nus in

[Dylan]

Poor JA all this hard work to get the marquee he wanted and he issnt even going to get a chance to coach him boo hoo

[mattyh001]

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1173401/Aloisi-avoids-open-Heart-surgery#!

 

 

Aloisi avoids open Heart surgery

 

Melbourne Heart chief executive Scott Munn threw his support behind the team's coach John Aloisi, who is without a win since February.

 

In what is colloquially referred to as a 'kiss of death' in football, Munn publicly backed Aloisi, insisting the club still sees the Australia international as its long-term coach, with an unchanged expectation to play finals this season, despite starting with three draws and two losses to be last on the ladder.

 

"We're not participating for any other reason. There's a long way to go," Munn said.

 

"We have an absolute obligation to give him every opportunity to succeed in his position and we haven't changed."

 

Aloisi and football boss John Didulica presented at the Heart's monthly board meeting on Tuesday.

 

Munn said the next three games - against Sydney FC, away to Newcastle Jets and at home against Adelaide United - are "really important" for the club.

Aloisi will again be without the injured Harry Kewell and has indicated changes to boost his team's attacking potency are likely after focussing on "punishing teams" in training.

 

He is adamant Heart doesn't need to change too much to start winning.

 

"Losing is never an option. I hate losing but it's part of the game. I can't think about losing, I can only think about making sure we prepare well enough to win," Aloisi said.

 

"It does get frustrating because we know that we should have had not just one win we should have had at least a couple."

 

The Sky Blues have been forced into changes in defence with Tiago Calvano and Marc Warren both missing through suspension.

 

Aloisi was unsure whether attention on Del Piero after winning numerous free kicks against Victory would cause referees to take a second look at his actions.

 

"Let's hope so," Aloisi said with a grin.

 

"I don't know who the referee is tomorrow, if he'll be looking closely at that, if it's going to help us that'll be great."

 

Kewell has been training at AFL side Carlton's high-altitude replicating facilities but has only just resumed running.

 

Aloisi looks to be on borrowed time

[n i k o]

It may be 3 weeks too late, but I'm liking this talk from aloisi.

"Losing is never an option. I hate losing but it's part of the game. I can't think about losing, I can only think about making sure we prepare well enough to win," Aloisi said.

[Southerner]

must be sacked if we lose tonight 

[mulhollanddrive]

Board needs to be doing their preparation to find an (interim) coach, Hayden Foxe is not an option.

 

I'd even take Pim Verbeek, he was watching games last week.

[Nate]

Ahahahaha, just heard on SBS from Davutovic that with Arnie now going to Japan, JA is the SECOND-longest serving coach currently in the A-League.

 

No more excuses!

[HeartFc]

"We were unlucky tonight"

- John Aloisi

[MPM]

Sack him

[theresonlyonebzamora]

Ahahahaha, just heard on SBS from Davutovic that with Arnie now going to Japan, JA is the SECOND-longest serving coach currently in the A-League.

No more excuses!

Jesus that's scary. He's almost a veteran

[Heart of Melbourne]

Aloisi need open heart surgery