playmaker Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, rass said: Yep, agree. But nowhere have I said he's a gun, just that I believe he needs better players around him to show if all that 'potential' he has will come to something. This is where I think you are very wrong. As I have said over and over again since Mooy left in one way or another. We don't need a mediocre A-League standard CAM or one that could possibly be ok. We need a CAM/CM to crack open the defence with creativeness and pose a real central threat from outside the box. He needs to be in the top player at the Club, or else forget about it as there will be no link too and from wide areas, Bruno will continue to be in no man's land and trying to do everything, and attacking transitions will be slow and indirect, in other words ground-hog day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 6 hours ago, playmaker said: This is where I think you are very wrong. As I have said over and over again since Mooy left in one way or another. We don't need a mediocre A-League standard CAM or one that could possibly be ok. We need a CAM/CM to crack open the defence with creativeness and pose a real central threat from outside the box. He needs to be in the top player at the Club, or else forget about it as there will be no link too and from wide areas, Bruno will continue to be in no man's land and trying to do everything, and attacking transitions will be slow and indirect, in other words ground-hog day. I actually agree with you there, but again, I'm not saying anywhere we need him, nor that I think he's a star. I'm just responding to rumours 'if' we get him - then I think it's unfair to compare him on his output at CCM. I think he'll be better with good players around him and hopefully he'll be able to live up to that potential everyone said he had. FWIW, I'd love nothing more than a beast CAM (marquee visa) who will be able to join all the dots. I've said that a million times on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Players are rated and measured on the past performance. It's naive to expect something what won't happen. Players who are proven not to strengthen their side and to produce minimal effort, will stay like that. Anyone would look good surranded by better players and inside better team. The whole point is that by releasing and acquiring similar average players no impact will be gained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: Players are rated and measured on the past performance. It's naive to expect something what won't happen. Players who are proven not to strengthen their side and to produce minimal effort, will stay like that. Anyone would look good surranded by better players and inside better team. The whole point is that by releasing and acquiring similar average players no impact will be gained. Exactly, and if we are going down that road we should get Caceres or Carusca back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: Players are rated and measured on the past performance. It's naive to expect something what won't happen. Players who are proven not to strengthen their side and to produce minimal effort, will stay like that. Anyone would look good surranded by better players and inside better team. The whole point is that by releasing and acquiring similar average players no impact will be gained. A very good point. The same goes for coaches and other management. At the moment I'd say we are suffering, and not realising our full potential as a CFG club, by the same type of mistake being repeated over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 So do we infer from those statements that you don't think players can improve as a result of training, hard work, the right environment, or playing with better players? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jw1739 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, bt50 said: So do we infer from those statements that you don't think players can improve as a result of training, hard work, the right environment, or playing with better players? I don't think he's quite saying that. There will be some players who want to and can respond to a new environment, but he's saying that recycling average players is likely to see you remaining average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I don't think he's quite saying that. There will be some players who want to and can respond to a new environment, but he's saying that recycling average players is likely to see you remaining average. Appreciate that point, although thats certainly not how that reads in his post. Taking Da Silva aside, he's been thought of as a high potential player for some time and has a couple of tricks in his bag that may see him flourish under a better set-up. It also may not, and he certainly had ample opportunity at CCM to show a bit more than he has. For me he's been severely overrated by Aus football media, however i do see something in him, and under the league's best coach at developing youth, he may well prove to be a big player for us. Only time will tell, but one thing's for sure, I'd rather take a punt on him at CAM, than see Bud back there again (at least as a marquee). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Anyway, I'm not concerned at this point in time. In the past CFG/City have shown that they're not in a hurry to announce departures and signings. A wag e-mailed me last night saying that the comment going around his circle is that at this stage Joyce is busy getting his 5-a-side squad together. Gave me a giggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 As players Budzinski is way better than Da Silva. (Imo) The question is the total resulting squad list. So for arguments sake Mauk and Budzinski go and De Silva (visa/maybe marquee) come in that is a total gain. And that's assuming we don't fuck up 3 times in a row of bringing in a dud marquee (which is obviously a big chance). So for me its the AM positions that need to be discussed and possibly we may see a De Silva/ Budzinski option and De Silva is actually a Mauk replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Jovan said: As players Budzinski is way better than Da Silva. (Imo) The question is the total resulting squad list. So for arguments sake Mauk and Budzinski go and De Silva (visa/maybe marquee) come in that is a total gain. And that's assuming we don't fuck up 3 times in a row of bringing in a dud marquee (which is obviously a big chance). So for me its the AM positions that need to be discussed and possibly we may see a De Silva/ Budzinski option and De Silva is actually a Mauk replacement. Not arguing the other way at all, but im curious as to why you think Bud is way better than Da Silva? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imtellingyou Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 There will be no spending on bigger marquee names, based on post season talks. Now after Muscat has left to NPL opportunity , Budz will be challenged to fill up his big boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 3 hours ago, bt50 said: Not arguing the other way at all, but im curious as to why you think Bud is way better than Da Silva? Basically Budzinski can score and from what I've seen of Da Silva he isn't as prolific. Now this is all based on the limited games I've watched of both. Da Silva tbf is still young enough to improve but going of what they did seasons past I'd prefer Budzinski over Da Silva playing as the #10. Now as a Marquee, no way. So I guess its more of a question of which player is least shitest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 I have it on good authority that we will actually be signing Grant Holt this time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Yaya yayayaya yayayaya yaya toure obviously i have no idea but how good would that be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 If we don’t elevate Bort to marquee I wouldn't mind getting Ross back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jovan said: If we don’t elevate Bort to marquee I wouldn't mind getting Ross back. No way CFG will fork out that sort of money. And Bort cannot be elevated unless Budz leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Hearing Fabio Ferrera just departed from SFC , he can play the wing position 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 Where is our marquee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, playmaker said: Where is our marquee? On the plane from Rostov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Would you rather sign Azarni as Marquee for upcoming season or see him go somewhere else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, Missing_Moy said: Would you rather sign Azarni as Marquee for upcoming season or see him go somewhere else ? I'd like him to stay another season, but idk if he's worth a marquee spot. Then again what money are we talking about? If we did make Arzani marquee he would be able to get paid by Manchester. But then what cap space is left for a decent visa? $500k, $800k? The problem is that Arzani would have been close to minimum salary so moving him into marquee wouldn't free up much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 We're assembling a very good squad as it is - 16 quality senior players plus 4 Scholarship players - do we really need another marquee? As for Arzani, last I read was that Manchester City/CFG has a very good offer in front of him to keep him within CFG. If he doesn't want that, then he's our player if he wants to go then we can ask a significant transfer fee. And we should. I've seen fees of tens of millions bandied around, and if a club is prepared to offer that then IMO we should take it. Sometimes it's best to cash in an asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Originalmeme Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 i think arzani will stay, with the plan to move the end of ours, or mid season. Dont think it would be wise for the club to make him marquee (could you imagine the social media abuse and commentary). Id rather see his wages bumped up to a higher bracket (i think if the kid is itching that much for money at 19 its a bit of poor form) and secure another decent visa signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Originalmeme said: i think arzani will stay, with the plan to move the end of ours, or mid season. Dont think it would be wise for the club to make him marquee (could you imagine the social media abuse and commentary). Id rather see his wages bumped up to a higher bracket (i think if the kid is itching that much for money at 19 its a bit of poor form) and secure another decent visa signing. We have to be careful signing him as marquee, he might succumb to the Heart/City marquee injury curse 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 marquee coach incoming. pep is in Melbourne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 He's offering Joycey the Senior Youth Coach role in Manchester... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 If anyone wants to know, here are all the current free agents, including ones whose contracts just expired. https://www.transfermarkt.com/statistik/vertragslosespieler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 One Danilo please. We all know how good former Turkish league players have been in the HAL. https://www.transfermarkt.com/danilo/marktwertverlauf/spieler/51232 Or even better, I'd cream myself if we resigned Ross. For a player with more then 10 games, his goals/min ratio is the best the league has seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiji19 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 are we one good defender and mid away from winning a championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, fiji19 said: are we one good defender and mid away from winning a championship? That and a season where we score more than we concede. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, fiji19 said: are we one good defender and mid away from winning a championship? We'll have to wait till after the first game to see where we are at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, haz said: We'll have to wait till after the last game to see where we are at FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jovan said: FTFY Nope, the prophecy states that we shall wait and see till after each individual game to see where we are at. It is not until our elimination in the Semi that we deem ourselves shit and we are not at where we should be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, haz said: Nope, the prophecy states that we shall wait and see till after each individual game to see where we are at. It is not until our elimination in the Semi that we deem ourselves shit and we are not at where we should be. Sorry how could I get it so wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 cfg gonna give us something stupid well that training ground sounds mighty tempting but I'm gonna go with the marquee Scott, the marquee is the gag prize, everybody wants the training groundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCwrgDdreVQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Thrillhouse said: cfg gonna give us something stupid well that training ground sounds mighty tempting but I'm gonna go with the marquee Scott, the marquee is the gag prize, everybody wants the training groundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCwrgDdreVQ Id be happy with an Elephant. Lets knick one from India while we're there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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