MTP Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of blokes really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Yep I'm elated that my teams been kicked out of the Finals for "bringing the game into disrepute" for our biggest rival who we've had 2 classic wins over by less than a goal this year (which now counts for zilch). Spot on. Just saying with what had been leaked from the AFL that they wanted to take your premiership points for this and next season, 3.5 mill fines, Hird on a black list, 1st and 2nd round draft exclusions for 2 seasons etc. You beat them down on the punishments considerably. Understand that emotions are probably running a bit high, but when it's looked back I think it will be seen as quite a good deal that was negotiated in hindsight with what you were up against. If it had have been any other club like the North or Doggies, there's no way we would have been allowed to have 2 days to negotiate our punishment. It would have been dished out to us on the spot with the full discipline of the AFL Commision. Edited August 27, 2013 by FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Softer decision from the AFL then blancmange. Joking or serious? Please explain how losing draft picks, being kicked out of finals, ans a massive fine are soft? If I was an Essendon fan I'd be elated at the outcome. No points removed for this season or next season. No wooden spoons. Fine reduced by 1 and half mill. Get a compensation 1st round draft pick for the 2014 draft. No life bans for Hird et all. VFL side free to compete this weekend. And no charges of taking banned substances, only governance related. From what the AFL had been lining you up for, I reckon you got off very lightly when you consider your club basically subverted the integrity of 2 full seasons of AFL football for the rest of the competition. To put it in perspective, Carlton got hit with worse draft penalties for what they did then what you got. Hopefully there'll be some solace when the AFL fixture your lot with Sunday twilights for next season, but somehow I can't see that happening. I think the thing that saved us was the fact we self-reported ourselves to the afl. In the Carlton issue I believe that they were caught rather than owning up to what they did. We still haven't been proven to be drug cheats, we've been punished for 'administrate issues'. Don't know how that warrants us getting all these punishments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 (edited) Softer decision from the AFL then blancmange. Joking or serious? Please explain how losing draft picks, being kicked out of finals, ans a massive fine are soft? If I was an Essendon fan I'd be elated at the outcome. No points removed for this season or next season. No wooden spoons. Fine reduced by 1 and half mill. Get a compensation 1st round draft pick for the 2014 draft. No life bans for Hird et all. VFL side free to compete this weekend. And no charges of taking banned substances, only governance related. From what the AFL had been lining you up for, I reckon you got off very lightly when you consider your club basically subverted the integrity of 2 full seasons of AFL football for the rest of the competition. To put it in perspective, Carlton got hit with worse draft penalties for what they did then what you got. Hopefully there'll be some solace when the AFL fixture your lot with Sunday twilights for next season, but somehow I can't see that happening. I think the thing that saved us was the fact we self-reported ourselves to the afl. In the Carlton issue I believe that they were caught rather than owning up to what they did. We still haven't been proven to be drug cheats, we've been punished for 'administrate issues'. Don't know how that warrants us getting all these punishments Andrew Demetriou said clearly during the questioning that AOD9604 is and always has been a banned substance under WADA rules and was never green lighted by ASADA. With Dimwit saying that and your own players admitting to taking the subtsance above I am baffled at how the AFL Commision didn't punish you as drug cheats tonight or how it can't be proven that you're not drug cheats. It's astonishing. Edited August 27, 2013 by FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Softer decision from the AFL then blancmange. Joking or serious? Please explain how losing draft picks, being kicked out of finals, ans a massive fine are soft? If I was an Essendon fan I'd be elated at the outcome. No points removed for this season or next season. No wooden spoons. Fine reduced by 1 and half mill. Get a compensation 1st round draft pick for the 2014 draft. No life bans for Hird et all. VFL side free to compete this weekend. And no charges of taking banned substances, only governance related. From what the AFL had been lining you up for, I reckon you got off very lightly when you consider your club basically subverted the integrity of 2 full seasons of AFL football for the rest of the competition. To put it in perspective, Carlton got hit with worse draft penalties for what they did then what you got. Hopefully there'll be some solace when the AFL fixture your lot with Sunday twilights for next season, but somehow I can't see that happening. I think the thing that saved us was the fact we self-reported ourselves to the afl. In the Carlton issue I believe that they were caught rather than owning up to what they did. We still haven't been proven to be drug cheats, we've been punished for 'administrate issues'. Don't know how that warrants us getting all these punishments Andrew Demetriou said clearly during the questioning that AOD9604 is and always has been a banned substance under WADA rules and was never green lighted by ASADA. With Dimwit saying that and your own players admitting to taking the subtsance above I am baffled at how the AFL Commision didn't punish you as drug cheats tonight or how it can't be proven that you're not drug cheats. It's astonishing. And i this is my problem with the punishments. For them to give us a punishment based on the fact they were still not able to prove us we were drug cheats just seems ludicrous. We've been given drug cheating punishments for not being drug cheats. Was simply a rushed decision for the 'good of the game'. Bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Too early to call if the bombers got off easy yet, two years of draft picks is pretty harsh, but what's most problematic is that the ASADA/WADA investigation still has to come down as well, which in turn will bring its own set of problems, likely in a year or two, meaning the whole business can't be moved on from just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Round 1+2 Draft picks for 2 years is the knock punch IMO. The clubs going backwards for 2 years and even then they gotta wait for their 2015 picks to develop. They are well and truly fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 If you search for AOD9604 on https://checksubstances.asada.gov.au it returns a result called ADT Booster, according to the ASADA it is not a banned substance for use by Males in Australian Rules Football. Its hard to find any info on the WADA site as apparently the drug hasnt even been approved for use on humans as its still in pre-clinical trials. So its not banned, its just not approved, so its completely irresponsible for it to have been administered to athletes in this case. From WADA: “S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCES Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited at all times.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Lmao, so relatable.... https://www.facebook.com/MyBloodOath/posts/664983616847836:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Matt Spanger is the greatest footballer in the history of the game... Lance Franklin is the dumbass footballer in the history of the game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Matt Spanger is the greatest footballer in the history of the game...Lance Franklin is the dumbass footballer in the history of the game... 1 or 2? Weeks that is? Edited August 30, 2013 by HeartinHobart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Are you suggesting we drop him for the granny? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Are you suggesting we drop him for the granny? Won't need to if he gets 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikre Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 horse race for the flag Swannies are a very overrated team, have fallen short against every other legitimate contender this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Are you suggesting we drop him for the granny? Won't need to if he gets 3 I doubt he'll cop 3 but you never know this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 horse race for the flag Swannies are a very overrated team, have fallen short against every other legitimate contender this year. Jizzin' at the thought of Hawks Vs Cats granny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm fancying a Hawthorn vs Fremantle grand final, Freo are a bit of a smokey! Hawthorn should win it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Are you suggesting we drop him for the granny? Won't need to if he gets 3 I doubt he'll cop 3 but you never know this year. He would if he wore Hoops, but he will get one week and it will be called a win for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2 horse race for the flag Swannies are a very overrated team, have fallen short against every other legitimate contender this year. I wouldn't say overrated. They've been very stiff with injuries (goodes, jetta missing most of year, rhyce shaw going down). The problem is they've just run out of time to try and get there players back into the team. I still think there good, even as good with Hawthorn, only with a full team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 2 weeks. Absolute moron for doing it. It's a dead rubber and I doubt Clako even cares about the points. Buddy's last game as a Hawk perhaps? Are you suggesting we drop him for the granny? Won't need to if he gets 3 I doubt he'll cop 3 but you never know this year. He would if he wore Hoops, but he will get one week and it will be called a win for the game. It would be good for the game... He wasn't going for Malceski head but much like the Ben Cousins bump he has to go for at least 1. Worst ones I've seen have been the Kelly and Ziebell ones. I don't want to see crap like that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Just a good old fashion hip and shoulder TBH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 fukn geelong keeping us on edge like that. Only 2 more games to go, come on afl gods be nice to north melbourne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 C'mon Norf!!! Very happy Geelong took that out, Wouldve been cats hawks preliminary which we'd loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Oh Freo lost.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Geelong making a habit of winning games they perhaps shouldn't. Opposite to Norf. EDIT: inb4 Cadete rant, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Edited August 31, 2013 by marteaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Go the Blues!!! We're actually playing finals! If Richmond can stay 5th, we night make the semis. And don't you Essendon supporters say anything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Well done at almost cocking that one up, Carlton. Good comeback in the end though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) BT can't stop saying 'come at me' hahaha I'd trade any Collingwood player besides Beams, Reid, Clokey and Pendles for Dusty Martin. Bloke is a king. Edited August 31, 2013 by marteaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Well done at almost cocking that one up, Carlton. Good comeback in the end though. Even if we had lost, Collingwood would've beaten North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 BT can't stop saying 'come at me' hahaha I'd trade any Collingwood player besides Beams, Reid, Clokey and Pendles for Dusty Martin. Bloke is a king. You wouldnt trade Ried for Martin??? Turn it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Am I the only one who would rather North play finals as opposed to Carlton, despite North the obvious better team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Am I the only one who would rather North play finals as opposed to Carlton, despite North the obvious better team? No you're not. Carlton are the shitest team to make finals in the history of the game. Would rather Norf coz they actually play good footy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 BT can't stop saying 'come at me' hahaha I'd trade any Collingwood player besides Beams, Reid, Clokey and Pendles for Dusty Martin. Bloke is a king. You wouldnt trade Ried for Martin??? Turn it up. Knew someone would bring this up. Well Reidy plays a pivotal role in our set up, we basically need him to be competitive across the whole field and we are really lacklustre when he isn't in the team, regardless of where he would be playing. He's not irreplaceable but he's an incredible important asset to the team. Dusty's probably a better player, but wouldn't trade Reid for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 ^fair enough. Structure wise, understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 BT can't stop saying 'come at me' hahahaI'd trade any Collingwood player besides Beams, Reid, Clokey and Pendles for Dusty Martin. Bloke is a king. If i was you I would trade Beams for Martin. I would trade Reid for Martin. I would trade Cloke for Martin. I would trade Pendlebury for Martin. Yes Dustin Martin is more valuable then anyone you've got on your list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) BT can't stop saying 'come at me' hahahaI'd trade any Collingwood player besides Beams, Reid, Clokey and Pendles for Dusty Martin. Bloke is a king.If i was you I would trade Beams for Martin. I would trade Reid for Martin. I would trade Cloke for Martin. I would trade Pendlebury for Martin. Yes Dustin Martin is more valuable then anyone you've got on your list Hahahah seek help pal, that is possibly the worst post I've ever seen on the forums (and I've been responsible for most of them) Also, learning to love Jake king. His takedown on jolly last year I think it was, one of the best things I've seen at a footy match. Edited August 31, 2013 by marteaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Took about 10 minutes longer for you to bite then I expected haha. All seriousness take Martin over Beams any day. I think you'd find a lot of neutrals would too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Beams any day. The guy is lightening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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