Orlando Engelaar

[bazzatron]

FUCKING GAY!

[kingofhearts]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

[Jimmy]

Probably the worst news I've heard since following the club. Can only hope it's a matter of weeks not months until he's back up and running.

[CaNNaVo93]

[sheepdog]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

Im not a doctor but im 95percent sure a fracture is a break.

[theresonlyonebzamora]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

 

didnt he collide with broich not berisha? 

[Jimmy]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

There's a lot wrong here kingofhearts

[sharpy]

But really, Berisha is to be blamed for most things in life.

[Boffins]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

Im not a doctor but im 95percent sure a fracture is a break. Nar a break is a clean snap where a fracture is just a crack

[kingofhearts]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

There's a lot wrong here kingofhearts

Apologies, was broich, but I'm confused by what they mean by fracture, are you saying they mean broken? I've fractured my wrist before so I thought it was similar to that

[Jimmy]

frac·ture

/ˈfrakCHər/

Noun

The cracking or breaking of a hard object or material

Rumours going around that it's a clean break. Which is relatively good news.

[sheepdog]

FUCK YOU BERISHA!!!! The only good thing is that its a fracture, not a break, won't take as long to recover

Im not a doctor but im 95percent sure a fracture is a break.Nar a break is a clean snap where a fracture is just a crack Ah sweet. Lucky I didnt go all in on kingofhearts then

[kingofhearts]

Hate to say it, but if he was going to be out for three months or so, should we just cut him loose and look for someone else? What do people on here think the minimum time out he can be before he becomes a burden?

[Jimmy]

A fracture can be anywhere from a hairline crack to the complete mangling of the leg.

[Boffins]

Upon consulting the medical dictionary I see you are correct my bad sheepdog

[Jimmy]

Here's a link to a medical definition if anyone is still confused as to what a fracture is:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/_/dict.aspx?rd=1&word=Fractures

[Boffins]

We believe you jimmy

[Deluka]

Does anyone know if it's his left or right?

[Jimmy]

Right

[heart_fan10]

good news is its his right foot I guess

But FFS we have the worst luck in the league

[n i k o]

"The Club will be making no further comment until a final diagnosis is completed."

Lets not get too hysterical here. Until the time comes for us to know the extent of the damage lets hope for the best.

[sheepdog]

Upon consulting the medical dictionary I see you are correct my bad sheepdog

Dr. Sheepdog thank you very much

[Tbitm]

It also depends where the fracture is on the bone. It heals much faster at the top and bottom of the bone compared to the middle. So with the club initially saying its a "bruised shin", that could mean its near the top which would be at least better. Still looking at 8-10 weeks as apposed to 16 or more if it were in the middle.

[jw1739]

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourneheart/news-display/Engelaar-suffers-fracture/73554

[Red or Dead]

Fractured fibula

Although the fibula is the smaller of the two shin bones it is still a potentially serious injury. However there is usually a shorter recovery period associated with a fractured fibula namely 9-12 weeks whereas a fractured tibia can take up to 6-12 months.

Should a fractured fibula be treated surgically?

The closer a fibula fracture is to the ankle joint, the more likely it is to require surgery. This is because a fibula fracture has the potential to disrupt the stability of the ankle joint. If the syndesmosis (structure between the tibia and fibula) is disrupted during a fibula fracture, then surgery is usually required to stabilise this area. 

On 23 February 2008, Eduardo da Silva of Arsenal suffered a broken left fibula and open dislocation of his ankle from a tackle by Martin Taylor of Birmingham City. He returned to professional play the following year.

 

Let's hope Engelaar only fractured his Fibula!   

[Deluka]

A devastating injury, but our squad is still pretty fucking good. A lot will hinge on who that international striker will be, but i believe we'll have a strong enough side to stay in touch and hold our own.

 

 

                   Redmayne

Walker  Vrankovic  Wielaert  Behich

          Murdocca      Gerhardt

 

 Mebrahtu        Kewell        Ramsay

 

             (International Striker)

 

 

Bench.
Velaphi
Williams
McGrath

Kalmar

Germano

 

Wielaert >>>> Colosimo

Behich >>> Mitchinson/Coyne
McGrath >>> Macallister

Kewell >>> Fred (I can't see kewell being anywhere near as injury prone as Fred, we'll actually see Kewell on the field this year)

Murdocca >>> Thompson

International Striker needs to be = Tadic

 

I'm hoping Wielaert can have a similar influence as Madaschi 

[jw1739]

A devastating injury, but our squad is still pretty fucking good. A lot will hinge on who that international striker will be, but i believe we'll have a strong enough side to stay in touch and hold our own.

 

 

                   Redmayne

Walker  Vrankovic  Wielaert  Behich

          Murdocca      Gerhardt

 

 Mebrahtu        Kewell        Ramsay

 

             (International Striker)

 

Given Engelaar's injury, I'm 100% with you - that team basically picks itself.

[Nate]

A devastating injury, but our squad is still pretty fucking good. A lot will hinge on who that international striker will be, but i believe we'll have a strong enough side to stay in touch and hold our own.

 

 

                   Redmayne

Walker  Vrankovic  Wielaert  Behich

          Murdocca      Gerhardt

 

 Mebrahtu        Kewell        Ramsay

 

             (International Striker)

 

 

Bench.

Velaphi

Williams

McGrath

Kalmar

Germano

 

Wielaert >>>> Colosimo

Behich >>> Mitchinson/Coyne

McGrath >>> Macallister

Kewell >>> Fred (I can't see kewell being anywhere near as injury prone as Fred, we'll actually see Kewell on the field this year)

Murdocca >>> Thompson

International Striker needs to be = Tadic

 

I'm hoping Wielaert can have a similar influence as Madaschi 

This.

As good as Orlando will be, if we're solely relying on him to be a competitive side then we were already doomed to begin with.

 

I'm confident we've got enough depth to cover him for however long he's out for and then his return will be a massive boost for us.

[alexandro]

Kewell >>> Fred (I can't see kewell being anywhere near as injury prone as Fred, we'll actually see Kewell on the field this year)

 

Please don't tempt fate. 

[Deluka]

 

A devastating injury, but our squad is still pretty fucking good. A lot will hinge on who that international striker will be, but i believe we'll have a strong enough side to stay in touch and hold our own.

 

 

                   Redmayne

Walker  Vrankovic  Wielaert  Behich

          Murdocca      Gerhardt

 

 Mebrahtu        Kewell        Ramsay

 

             (International Striker)

 

 

Bench.

Velaphi

Williams

McGrath

Kalmar

Germano

 

Wielaert >>>> Colosimo

Behich >>> Mitchinson/Coyne

McGrath >>> Macallister

Kewell >>> Fred (I can't see kewell being anywhere near as injury prone as Fred, we'll actually see Kewell on the field this year)

Murdocca >>> Thompson

International Striker needs to be = Tadic

 

I'm hoping Wielaert can have a similar influence as Madaschi 

This.

As good as Orlando will be, if we're solely relying on him to be a competitive side then we were already doomed to begin with.

 

I'm confident we've got enough depth to cover him for however long he's out for and then his return will be a massive boost for us.

 

I think that's actually been our downfall over the last couple of seasons, and if not last season then most certainly two seasons ago. We were so dependant on Fred, and when he suffered those hamstring injuries, we just wouldn't, or should I say couldn't, perform. We were almost the definition of a one man team...

[Heart of Melbourne]

The club had been really quite about his injury. You can pretty much get a diagnosis after scans. I'm telling you that he is gone for 6 months.

[heart_fan10]

sign an injury replacement, sign McGrath and fill the last visa spot

[jw1739]

Don't forget last season we placed a lot on Grella making an impact for us - that lasted 22 minutes. Further proof that relying on one player is a bad strategy.

[FB.]

Bet the club feels silly for not keeping Garcia now

[sheepdog]

Im not overly confident of another international signing.

[Rellum]

Until I hear differently I am expecting he is out for the season. We are still short a quality midfielder and striker if we are going to push near the top of the ladder. Still have a very inexperienced manager who talks about styles of football but has of yet not shown said style of football for a full competitive match.

[Heart4Life]

Does anyone know much about leg breaks?

I'm assuming:

Best case 6-8 weeks.

Worst case 6 months plus.

Broke my leg and couldn't walk for 7 months.

[Dylan]

Hey at least maybe he might stick around for another season after this?

[mattyh001]

so disappointing but you have to play the hand you're dealt.  it'd be nice to know the club had an insurance policy to cover, etc. (and from memory, the whole kerfuffle around Culina a few seasons ago included the fact that GCU didnt actually have insurance so fingers crossed there).

 

IIRC Grella came out with a pretty high opinion of the club of how the club handled the situation so hopefully that can be followed here. 

 

plus, if all goes well, we could have Engelaar back for the second half of the season.  Providing he then gets fit that would be a massive addition to the squad.

 

or perhaps i'm just looking for a silver lining / positive outta this

[mattyh001]

in any case i think the club has made some pretty positive steps this preseason.  one player / one injury doesnt define a club.