Damiano Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm checking in....Babalj, Tadic gone No true CBs Garcia not signed Shit....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Its feels the same as this time last year. Players leaving and no replacements. Budget team again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 www.breakingeven.com.au/melbourneheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Steady on there boys. The 2012-13 season hasn't officially finished yet and there's almost 6 months before next season starts. It's not panic stations yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 We have the basis of a very solid squad, have trimmed all the high earning underperformers and have plenty of spots available and 3 foreign spots up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 After each season the squad has been "trimmed". We have got progressively worse despite making the finals in our second season. I agree the basis for the squad is good. Our signings need to be spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damiano Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Just give Garcia the captaincy already! Then I will be happy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Can't we discuss this in the other 50 threads? I hardly see the need for ANOTHER thread discussing the same topics. Are there ANY positives to talk about? We all wanted the players that have gone so far to be gone, yet we're still not content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Can't we discuss this in the other 50 threads? I hardly see the need for ANOTHER thread discussing the same topics. Are there ANY positives to talk about? We all wanted the players that have gone so far to be gone, yet we're still not content? Clubs a long way back to satisfy me mate. History to me is important and trust for me has gone. Won't be celebrating anything till its deserved. I loved this club and the people at the club somehow made me lose that passion over the course. Repair work needed for me until then, I execute my right to be pessimistic about the decisions as my trust in the people at the club is very minimal. I do agree though way too many similar threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I daresay you talk in far too many absolutes, Melburnian. This isn't a criticism but more of a comment - football has so many intangibles, moreso as supporters we tend to be the last to know. I would continue to exercise that right to be pessimistic, but understand that there are a lot of things happening in the background. I daresay the club is aware of these concerns, and will be working hard to have a better season next year. By the way, I'm not wearing rose-tinted glasses either, but I think it would be disingenuous to suggest the club doesn't give a fuck about all the issues we are discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I daresay you talk in far too many absolutes, Melburnian. This isn't a criticism but more of a comment - football has so many intangibles, moreso as supporters we tend to be the last to know. I would continue to exercise that right to be pessimistic, but understand that there are a lot of things happening in the background. I daresay the club is aware of these concerns, and will be working hard to have a better season next year. By the way, I'm not wearing rose-tinted glasses either, but I think it would be disingenuous to suggest the club doesn't give a fuck about all the issues we are discussing. Understand what your saying mate but again, history of bad decisions and wrong processes make me feel the way I do. I just don't trust the people at the club. That's the problem. These guys in my opinion have brought massive concerns to the club and I don't trust them to make the correct decisions to turn the club around. I know more than most (as you would know) some of the inner workings and I can tell you I don't feel we are a set up to be a successful elite club. Not yet anyway. If the club are making moves and working hard to change this, kudos to them. I don't apologise though for not blindly trusting them after everything that has occurred. At this point in time, the club is a shambles. I hope it can turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 THE WORRY ROOM = www.mhfcsupporters.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 THE WORRY ROOM = www.mhfcsupporters.com Haha. Pretty much. This season has not even finished, we have a ridiculously long off season and already people are freaking out and moaning about decisions for next season. I understand that some decisions in the past have not been the best, particularly this season. But my god as soon as one thing that isnt perfect happens people start tearing their hair out and talking about the end of the world. Lets just wait and see how this off season unfolds before giving ourselves ulcers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) I'm checking in....Babalj, Tadic gone No true CBs Garcia not signed Shit....... 'Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm' There's simply an attitude problem with the supporters as well as the club. We just need to be positive FFS. We've actually made some good steps this off-season, clearing off most of the deadwood and signing Ian Ramsay. Lets focus on being positive, people need to remember, Rome wasn't built in a day and yes, i know WSW were able to come in, in there first season and be successful, but that is one of the very few times i can remember in history of a new team coming into a competition and being so succsseful And BTW, stop creating a new fucken thread for every little complaint!! FFS some of you whine more than girls Edited April 20, 2013 by kingofhearts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 There are no girls whining on this forum, all the whiners are male! And BTW, stop creating a new fucken thread for every little complaint!! FFS some of you whine more than girls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Melbourne Heart is a wonderfully run club. Everything is going so well at the moment. Very sure we'll win the league next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) The Worry Room should have a door that leads to The Shrink Room Edited April 20, 2013 by HEARTinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 There are no girls whining on this forum, all the whiners are male! And BTW, stop creating a new fucken thread for every little complaint!! FFS some of you whine more than girls Melbourne Heart is a wonderfully run club. Everything is going so well at the moment. Very sure we'll win the league next season. see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Would not hit the panic button yet, plenty of dosh now floating around to buys new players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 There are no girls whining on this forum, all the whiners are male! And BTW, stop creating a new fucken thread for every little complaint!! FFS some of you whine more than girls Yeah! Oh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I agree that things haven't looked great but can we just keep our complaints a bit more centralised? By all means an express an opinion but do it in one of the other 50 million threads about the exact same things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) We have a right to question the club and the people that run it. I pay membership so I consider myself a part owner of the club, however small it is. They better do right by us, the members, the ones that make the club stay afloat. Ill be positive if they give us something to cheer for. Edited April 20, 2013 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 As above, it's far too early for panic stations, and as Ando says, supporters are usually the last to know anything. But one thing I do hope for - and that is there won't be a deafening silence from the club for the next few months. As a member I would appreciate a regular e-mail during the off-season. Perhaps not weekly, which would be a bit much to ask, but regularly enough to keep me up-to-date about what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 We have a right to question the club and the people that run it. I pay membership so I consider myself a part owner of the club, however small it is. They better do right by us, the members, the ones that make the club stay afloat. Ill be positive if they give us something to cheer for. we do consider ourselves part owners and members but remember that the 'club' is a franchise, the owners are Board members and we are merely supporters and ticket holders. Not that this is unimportant, the club would be the first to say how vital we are, but it isn't a traditional club and we have no ownership stake, nor vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sign cunts. Sell cunts. Dont win games and end up with Hoffman. Melbourne Heart FC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 We have a right to question the club and the people that run it. I pay membership so I consider myself a part owner of the club, however small it is. They better do right by us, the members, the ones that make the club stay afloat. Ill be positive if they give us something to cheer for. we do consider ourselves part owners and members but remember that the 'club' is a franchise, the owners are Board members and we are merely supporters and ticket holders. Not that this is unimportant, the club would be the first to say how vital we are, but it isn't a traditional club and we have no ownership stake, nor vote. That's the technical way of looking at it. You can throw that all out though because reality is for heart, no supporters=no club. We're the blood that pumps through the veins of the club. Our vote is done by us signing up before the season starts, committing to the club. The club has to do right by us if they want us to make that commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Don't panic yet mate. In all three seasons, yes, this has been the worst, but the recent releases and the signing of Ramsay is a step (or are steps) in the right direction. Surely we must have money now to buy a few good players and the Club are hopefully working hard to bring them here. I know this season wasn't our best but there were a few positives. Why isn't there a thread about the positives? Or is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Its April and the Worry Room is apparently already full to the brink, impressive work lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 The season's been over a little while now, and still no news. I'm starting to get worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 The season's been over a little while now, and still no news. I'm starting to get worried. The season finished today mate. And IIRC the Heart players are training until 24th April when they go on a 6-week break. Have patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Don't panic yet mate. In all three seasons, yes, this has been the worst, but the recent releases and the signing of Ramsay is a step (or are steps) in the right direction. Surely we must have money now to buy a few good players and the Club are hopefully working hard to bring them here. I know this season wasn't our best but there were a few positives. Why isn't there a thread about the positives? Or is there? Who's panicking? Not me. Just stating some truths the club should be aware of. Besides JAs constant reference to everything that been wrong except him, and Hoffman being signed I think the decisions that have been made in the last few weeks have been positive for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) Can't we discuss this in the other 50I'm reads? I hardly see the need for ANOTHER thread discussing the same topics. Are there ANY positives to talk about? We all wanted the players that have gone so far to be gone, yet we're still not content? The players that have been let go, were easy decisions made by the club. It was painfully obvious that Colosimo, and Fred couldnt continue at the A-league level anymore. Thommo has been a shadow of him self and is no where near the level required (to comfortable) ... But now its about next season, and the club cannot afford to have another season like the 1 we just had. Every decision the club makes from now on is going to be scrutinized because the club has failed to instill confidence among the supporters. We are not attacking the club, we are all concerned about were the clubis heading. Your a Demon supporter so im sure you can relate... Edited April 21, 2013 by Attack11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 For fecks sake I'm not disagreeing, I just don't feel we need to say the same thing in EVERY thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Understand what your saying mate but again, history of bad decisions and wrong processes make me feel the way I do.I just don't trust the people at the club. That's the problem. These guys in my opinion have brought massive concerns to the club and I don't trust them to make the correct decisions to turn the club around. I know more than most (as you would know) some of the inner workings and I can tell you I don't feel we are a set up to be a successful elite club. Not yet anyway. If the club are making moves and working hard to change this, kudos to them. I don't apologise though for not blindly trusting them after everything that has occurred. At this point in time, the club is a shambles. I hope it can turn around. The obvious point is that unless there is a raft of new investors, board members and corporate staff who are willing, ready and able to step in to those roles, these people aren't going to change. I think there also needs to be some deliniation around: 1) which people have instilled the lack of trust within you; 2) what decision/s they have made for you to not trust them; 3) how, if at all, those decisions could be changed. This forum has a systemic failure in that it seeks to impugne Club staff based on decisions which we don't know the full story about. As others have mentioned above, we only hold a season ticket. We do contribute to the Club, which is why the Club has such initiatives as the Fan Forums and the Representative Group. I think it is also a bit rich to say no supporters = no Club, given there needs to be a Club for supporters to support. In short, if anyone can find new investors, new board members and/or new corporate staff who want those positions at the Club, the onus is on those people to challenge for those roles and/or become involved in the Club. That being said, no-one can ever give a guarantee that any new person is going to be better than the person they are replacing. The only certainty in football is that the ball is round. Edited April 22, 2013 by biancorosso7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No supporters = No club...prove me wrong. And understand that my intention behind saying that is to highlight just how important we are to the club. MH has been setup already, that ship has sailed. What makes us stay afloat is people coming to watch the games. The club wont dissapear unless the people do. What makes us more successful is more people coming to games and taking up membership. How is this done? Through the decisions of the staff at MH and the success on the pitch. The two go hand in hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No supporters = No club...prove me wrong. Well, on the most basic of levels, how many Melbourne Heart supporters were there before the Club was created? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No supporters = No club...prove me wrong. Well, on the most basic of levels, how many Melbourne Heart supporters were there before the Club was created? This is a business at the end of the day. Can I paraphrase niko?? "No customers = no club". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No one goes to the pub that doesn't exist, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No one goes to the pub that doesn't exist, do they? Well according to you, someone is not a supporter of this club until they wear Merch either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 No one goes to the pub that doesn't exist, do they? Well according to you, someone is not a supporter of this club until they wear Merch either... Not correct. Moving on, the concern from the supporters over the care and conduct of the Club could be ameliorated by the release of a short document, like a progress report, from the CEO and Board, covering initial aims and goals, current situation and future aims and goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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