KSK_47 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 They're probably even more pissed off than we are with what they are enduring - imagine taking a prospective client into the Directors' Box and seeing your team play abysmally. Cant be too upset if you dig your own grave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 My feeling is that the Board will have set JA (and others) some reasonable objectives. And they will be reviewing how those are going on a continual basis. In JA's case I reckon that will have been to participate in the finals series. The Board members have done everything else they said they would - provide more resources to the Football Department (Nus, Ripamonti, JvS, and the extra people in the NYL area) and they have allowed JA to sign, at least on paper, some good players. The Board doesn't set the tactics, do the selections, substitutions etc. They're probably even more pissed off than we are with what they are enduring - imagine taking a prospective client into the Directors' Box and seeing your team play abysmally. If we start winning I reckon JA will stay. Because he will still have a chance of meeting his objectives. IMO crunch time will come when it is no longer mathematically possible for us to finish in the top six, and I think that will occur with 10-12 matches to go, depending on the results in the next 5-7 weeks. Great! By then we will have a capacity crowd of 1k. Another record smashed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 JA is obviously just tanking for draft picks. Real good crop of youngsters coming through this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 One thing that I'm sure helps to keep JA in the job is that we haven't been loosing by a ridiculous margins. Even during the game vs roar, we could have been easily 2 or 3 nil up in first half. To us, draws and close defeats reek of pathetic effort and deficient tactics Media only looks at the surface and after hearing JA talking about luck and chances in the press conferences, they are the ones that BELIEVE in his abilities. If we start loosing 3 or 4 nil his head would roll. It's not that bad, that's what his supporters think Us...??.. Well watching team you love just loose or draw makes the whole experience so unsatisfying, it's like walking around with blue balls every weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I saw a workmate today who I haven't seen for a couple of months. He is a marginal tards supporter and his opening words were "your team has been unlucky". I bit my tongue before giving him the whole story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I saw a workmate today who I haven't seen for a couple of months. He is a marginal tards supporter and his opening words were "your team has been unlucky". I bit my tongue before giving him the whole story. I work with Sydney and WSW supporters and they all say "you guys are so unlucky", "just need to learn to finish" and "Aloisi sounds good in press conferences". I guess when people don't follow a team closely they don't see the inept tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I saw a workmate today who I haven't seen for a couple of months. He is a marginal tards supporter and his opening words were "your team has been unlucky". I bit my tongue before giving him the whole story. I work with Sydney and WSW supporters and they all say "you guys are so unlucky", "just need to learn to finish" and "Aloisi sounds good in press conferences". I guess when people don't follow a team closely they don't see the inept tactics. They must be taking the piss or seriously retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 JA doesn't play youngsters cause as you very well remember last season it was all their fault we lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 So if we're playing shithouse football and losing at the 80th minute do we all start the "Aloisi Out" chant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhiteSoldier Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Our support has had enough! -tune of let's pretend we scored a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I saw a workmate today who I haven't seen for a couple of months. He is a marginal tards supporter and his opening words were "your team has been unlucky". I bit my tongue before giving him the whole story. I work with Sydney and WSW supporters and they all say "you guys are so unlucky", "just need to learn to finish" and "Aloisi sounds good in press conferences". I guess when people don't follow a team closely they don't see the inept tactics. They must be taking the piss or seriously retarded. I think that they are content with us being complete shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I saw a workmate today who I haven't seen for a couple of months. He is a marginal tards supporter and his opening words were "your team has been unlucky". I bit my tongue before giving him the whole story. I work with Sydney and WSW supporters and they all say "you guys are so unlucky", "just need to learn to finish" and "Aloisi sounds good in press conferences". I guess when people don't follow a team closely they don't see the inept tactics. I've had the same thing. Girl I know in newcastle, left a comment on fb book about JA and she said I feel sorry for him blah blah. Then I just gave her a brief run down of the stats and some of the info of things and she was like ooooooooooooooh, yeah I see your point now !! I guess I'm the same with other teams. I don't really take notice of them and all the fine details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandro Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yeah I mean I wonder how Phoenix fans are feeling right now? All I've heard is "they are playing pretty good football" from randoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yeah I mean I wonder how Phoenix fans are feeling right now? All I've heard is "they are playing pretty good football" from randoms. Me too. I hope we flog them on the 27th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I guess I am sick of JA's response to the season so far. Comments like; "we are in this together" "the club is going through a tough time and we need to stick together"... As if there is some phantom or an external force in flicking this hard time on us. JA you have caused this and you have brought all the unwanted headlines and records to this great club. Yes the players are not scoring but that is simply because they are in a pressure cooker environment that you have caused and they are not playing relaxed.. So when did all this start? Your post match comments after the Brisbane Roar game set the standard, I'm sorry buddy but when the team lose 3-0 and miss chances, the team needs to know that it's unacceptable, individual players need a kick up the ass. And this is a comments to the Heart Board as well " LIFT THE STANDARDS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardRed Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 I guess I am sick of JA's response to the season so far. Comments like; "we are in this together" "the club is going through a tough time and we need to stick together"... As if there is some phantom or an external force in flicking this hard time on us. JA you have caused this and you have brought all the unwanted headlines and records to this great club. Yes the players are not scoring but that is simply because they are in a pressure cooker environment that you have caused and they are not playing relaxed.. So when did all this start? Your post match comments after the Brisbane Roar game set the standard, I'm sorry buddy but when the team lose 3-0 and miss chances, the team needs to know that it's unacceptable, individual players need a kick up the ass. And this is a comments to the Heart Board as well " LIFT THE STANDARDS" so when did all this start? Your post match comments after the Brisbane Roar game ........................................ Er NO, Try 9 months previous .... Away at Wellington A damp and cold shit hole of a day with the worst performance by Professional FootballersI have ever witnessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 As opposed to the home match against the Wellington trialist's? We have never looked consistently convincing under JA. I only remember one game which we have controlled and that was Adelaide at home last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Brisbane home 4-1??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 It's a mistake to take games in isolation. The article referred to in the latest posts in the "Stats" thread tells the real story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yes I know and I agree that we have been shit under JA's watch but looking at this season he basically got a new team and released a hand full of players so I'm only analysing the results of the current heart team. Rd.1 vs Victory I thought we looked solid, both defensively and in midfield however in Attack I was concerned. Rd.2 we looked very good and played well vs the Mariners and going up 2-0 I thought we were good value and so did the media. Rd.3 vs Brisbane lost 3-0, played well but lacked killer instinct, defensively we collapsed.. Turning point was JA's post match comments.. That's what I meant by my earlier post.. He lowered our standards as a football team were by our players now believe, playing well is much more a priority than winning games and now it has become desperation for results.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Brisbane home 4-1??? Now that's what I call "luck"; when we were 1-0 up Brisbane equalised through Nichols' cut back only for the goal to get cancelled because they adjudicated that the ball had gone out, but replays clearly show that the ball was still in! We would've gone into the break 1-1 and who knows what would've happened from there...and Aloisi reckons that 'luck' is never on his side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 Yes I know and I agree that we have been shit under JA's watch but looking at this season he basically got a new team and released a hand full of players so I'm only analysing the results of the current heart team. Rd.1 vs Victory I thought we looked solid, both defensively and in midfield however in Attack I was concerned. Rd.2 we looked very good and played well vs the Mariners and going up 2-0 I thought we were good value and so did the media. Rd.3 vs Brisbane lost 3-0, played well but lacked killer instinct, defensively we collapsed.. Turning point was JA's post match comments.. That's what I meant by my earlier post.. He lowered our standards as a football team were by our players now believe, playing well is much more a priority than winning games and now it has become desperation for results.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk don't forget the hopeless perth game over there, that was probably the worst performance as we defended all game and hardly had a shot at goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 We were good in the first 20 mins against roar. But as soon as they put a bit of pressure against us we folded. The second half against roar is one of the worst pieces of football I have ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 We were good in the first 20 mins against roar. But as soon as they put a bit of pressure against us we folded. The second half against roar is one of the worst pieces of football I have ever seen Even in that game our tactics were poor because we were never gonna be able to sustain that sort of pressure and press so high for most of the match. Fatigue was always going to hit us and it happened late in the first half. Other coaches know how to implement a proper press thats sustainable for 90mins. JA is incapable of implementing this hence why he scrapped that tactic and our first halves have been utter shit since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Redmayne leaps to defence of Aloisi 21 December 2013-SBS: Greg Prichard Melbourne Heart goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne has raised a spirited defence of under-fire coach John Aloisi on the eve of the latest derby against Melbourne Victory. Heart is winless and bottom of the table after 10 rounds this season and former Socceroos star Aloisi is under enormous pressure to turn the team's form around, starting with the game at AAMI Park on Saturday night. Many observers are stunned that he is still in charge, given the combination of the team's results and the cut-throat nature of coaching. Heart finished second from bottom after a poor end to last season - Aloisi's first in charge - and combined with this season's poor start it is on a run of 15 games without a win. Completely foreign to ex-striker Aloisi would be the fact Heart has scored just eight goals - the least of all teams - this season. It has conceded 18 goals - the most of any team. But Redmayne says Aloisi is doing everything he can to get Heart pumping and that the players have to take plenty of the blame for the team not winning. "John is concentrating hard on the football," Redmayne told The World Game. "He has from day one of the pre-season. "All we're focused on is getting results, and I don't think we're far away. We've created so many chances in our last few games. "I think it's just going to take an extra one per cent of determination, or luck, for us to score that crucial goal that can put us in front and allow us to dictate the style and pace of the game. "The last thing you want to have to do when you're not winning is chase the game - it just puts you under more pressure. "We can feel the pressure John is under, but we have to take a lot of responsibility as players for the situation the team is in. "We're playing a game system put together by the coach that has created a lot of chances, and that one per cent of whatever it is that has stopped those chances from going in you can't really coach. "John is hurting, the players are hurting - it's hurting everyone at the club. We know we have to turn it around. "That little bit of luck, a goal going in at the right time - it could change everything. If the other team has to chase us it changes the whole dynamic of the game. "If we can find that little bit extra and get that win the players here will rise a foot taller and I'm convinced we'll go on from there." Considering the goalmouth action he has had to deal with, Redmayne is arguably the hardest-working goalkeeper in the competition. That puts him under at least as much pressure as any other player in the team. Asked how he deals with the pressure of being the last man between the opposition and the goal for a team that is conceding plenty, Redmayne replied: "I have been in a few situations in the past where I've faced a lot of pressure. "All you can do is concentrate on what you can control and block the rest out. I've been reasonably happy with my form, but I would trade that in for a couple of wins." Overall, Heart has got a good record in the Melbourne derby. It has won three, lost three and drawn four of the 10 clashes. But Heart's most recent clashes with Victory have been dominated by its cross-town rival. The last three meetings - all within the last 12 months - have resulted in two Victory wins last season and a goalless draw in the first round of this season. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1176852/Redmayne-leaps-to-defence-of-Aloisi Edited December 21, 2013 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 saw a FTA video of JA. He says:" look its not the players, its "..pause.."not me". Yeah its the OTHER teams players and coaches you have to better than...I too never lost a game playing on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Redmayne leaps to defence of Aloisi 21 December 2013-SBS: Greg Prichard Melbourne Heart goalkeeper Andrew Redmayne has raised a spirited defence of under-fire coach John Aloisi on the eve of the latest derby against Melbourne Victory. Heart is winless and bottom of the table after 10 rounds this season and former Socceroos star Aloisi is under enormous pressure to turn the team's form around, starting with the game at AAMI Park on Saturday night. Many observers are stunned that he is still in charge, given the combination of the team's results and the cut-throat nature of coaching. Heart finished second from bottom after a poor end to last season - Aloisi's first in charge - and combined with this season's poor start it is on a run of 15 games without a win. Completely foreign to ex-striker Aloisi would be the fact Heart has scored just eight goals - the least of all teams - this season. It has conceded 18 goals - the most of any team. But Redmayne says Aloisi is doing everything he can to get Heart pumping and that the players have to take plenty of the blame for the team not winning. "John is concentrating hard on the football," Redmayne told The World Game. "He has from day one of the pre-season. "All we're focused on is getting results, and I don't think we're far away. We've created so many chances in our last few games. "I think it's just going to take an extra one per cent of determination, or luck, for us to score that crucial goal that can put us in front and allow us to dictate the style and pace of the game. "The last thing you want to have to do when you're not winning is chase the game - it just puts you under more pressure. "We can feel the pressure John is under, but we have to take a lot of responsibility as players for the situation the team is in. "We're playing a game system put together by the coach that has created a lot of chances, and that one per cent of whatever it is that has stopped those chances from going in you can't really coach. "John is hurting, the players are hurting - it's hurting everyone at the club. We know we have to turn it around. "That little bit of luck, a goal going in at the right time - it could change everything. If the other team has to chase us it changes the whole dynamic of the game. "If we can find that little bit extra and get that win the players here will rise a foot taller and I'm convinced we'll go on from there." Considering the goalmouth action he has had to deal with, Redmayne is arguably the hardest-working goalkeeper in the competition. That puts him under at least as much pressure as any other player in the team. Asked how he deals with the pressure of being the last man between the opposition and the goal for a team that is conceding plenty, Redmayne replied: "I have been in a few situations in the past where I've faced a lot of pressure. "All you can do is concentrate on what you can control and block the rest out. I've been reasonably happy with my form, but I would trade that in for a couple of wins." Overall, Heart has got a good record in the Melbourne derby. It has won three, lost three and drawn four of the 10 clashes. But Heart's most recent clashes with Victory have been dominated by its cross-town rival. The last three meetings - all within the last 12 months - have resulted in two Victory wins last season and a goalless draw in the first round of this season. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1176852/Redmayne-leaps-to-defence-of-Aloisi Geez I hate all this 'luck' talk. While no one is 100% in control of any situation the moment you make luck the missing ingredient in your results you are conceding that you are mostly not in control of the situation. There are no real unlucky misses for us. Only finishing that hasn't been good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Surely a 347 year deal is on cards after tonight. Aloisi>Hiddink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS ALOISI SACKED. Not asking for much really..........!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 What's the difference between a 14 game winless streak and a 15 game winless streak? If you go that far without any movement, clearly there's something else at play. The board don't want to make a -400k decision given they are listening to offers. And given they are listening to offers, they may hold off until they sell, which means no decision and hence the 14-15 game winless streak and no pay out losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneyheart Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Aloisi must resign, there is no other option. I for one will send my membership back to the club if aloisi is still coaching by the next game...fucking over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 This club is a shambles!! If Aloisi is still in charge come monday its good night MH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Seriously I admire some of you guys for your loyalty and commitment to this club but please please boycott our next home game. Its for our own good. We cannot survive under this under this fucking moron. It's do or die now. This club will fold unless sone change is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 CBF fixing typos im too drunk but fuck Im fed up. Not attending another game. Fucking upset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Looks like they weren't ever going to sack him as it seems we have been sold, new owners may have a say tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneyheart Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 His a dick himself but kudos to bosnich asking the hard questions, it shows the utter arrogance with Aloisi still believing the wins will come and his the man for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 This is depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 JA, stay away from the club mate before you run us into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Man this guy has the worst luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 total denial that he can turn things around lol bit deluded if you ask me hasn't won in 16 games hasn't won on the road just do yourself a favour and resign before you ruin your own reputation as a coach ... you have done well enough to ruin the reputation of the club!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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