macri Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 not sure if srs. what do you mean pal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 Shit support macri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 what do you mean pal? just surprised that you cant come to that many games to justify buying a membership. but if thats your decision... i dont know where you stand TBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macri Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 just surprised that you cant come to that many games to justify buying a membership. but if thats your decision... i dont know where you stand TBH just personal feuds mate. definitely in for derbies, nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballism Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 just personal feuds mate. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 just personal feuds mate. definitely in for derbies, nonetheless. well if you cant come then i have no right to question it. in for derbies... well at least you will see three wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macri Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 lol. hahaha genuinely not what you think mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 How many people rocked up at the family day? More than last year? Unfortunately, I couldn't come with my mate as he attended the same Christening as I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 info on the family day is on the Melbourne Heart website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 it felt as if it was much less than last year. they're saying that there was 1,000 there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 hahaha genuinely not what you think mate Look, mate. Just because you don't get on with Behich doesn't mean you shouldn't buy a membership. How do you think Aziz feels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macri Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Look, mate. Just because you don't get on with Behich doesn't mean you shouldn't buy a membership. How do you think Aziz feels? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 it felt as if it was much less than last year. they're saying that there was 1,000 there. This was down on last year's supposed 1,700. But it's pretty hard to maintain interest in these sorts of things - especially with our long off-season - and I don't think we should read too much into the actual attendance. Club's doing the right thing and giving people an opportunity - that's what counts. Maybe in the future we could try to amalgamate the family day with a pre-season match or something - we did that previously. I'm sure HQ is doing its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schrecky Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I called the langwarren weekend my heart family day....with the full crew in attendance on Sunday and half of them at mt eliza on the saturday that was enough for the kids Coming from the the south i couldn't be bothered making the 50km trek to Latrobe. Everyone i know is still as keen as last year if not more keen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien Posted September 29, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) Just wanted to say hello, I'm a long term football fan, been watching football starting from about the age of 8 at Melbourne Croatia, then when the A-League began, went to victory games every so often to support local football but I've honestly always been more about just seeing football succeed in Australia as it's a game I love amongst many other things in life I like. As a result, seeing Melbourne Heart, a young team in Melbourne that needed members and fans to help it grow, I felt a particular affiliation and a 'calling' I didn't particularly feel with the Victory as they were always the most financially successful club and its long term viability seemed secured irrespective if I was there or not. I guess, I just want to be a part of the rise of football in Australia, that's not to say I'm anti-AFL or anything, I'm happy for people who like AFL to go and watch AFL and if people like both our football and AFL, they should watch both and with the signing of Del Piero, Heskey and Ono, as well as a new TV deal, I felt it was the right time to become a member of Melbourne Heart and support local football. I don't particularly hate the Victory, more about the progress of Melbourne Heart and a second successful and long-term viable club in Melbourne. I used to follow English football (Manchester United in particular) religiously for 5-6 years, but with my changing lifestyle (lots of study towards an eventual medical degree) and a desire for something local as opposed to something on a TV screen on the other side of the world, I stopped following English football. I can't make the first three home games due to work/uni commitments, after that, I'll be using my membership at every game, don't really care if I end up getting the value out of the membership, moreso just wanted to support the club and football in Australia.So I look forward to seeing some of you guys in the terrace this season. Just to clarify, I've played the game for over 10 years and have been watching football since I was about 5 in some capacity, I know my football! Ale! Edited September 29, 2012 by Damien 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Having said that, where the f*** is my membership? I purchased it over a week ago, I expected it delivered by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Having said that, where the f*** is my membership? I purchased it over a week ago, I expected it delivered by now. Patience is a virtue especially when following the greatest football team in Melbourne! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Not buying a membership, gonna jump the fence every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Not buying a membership, gonna jump the fence every week. you are not FB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 you are not FB I'm not, I only jump fences when the game costs more than $2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hi all I'd like to add my 10 cents worth to this debate with a couple of ideas. Firstly most games I go to I see most of the Premium A and Premium B seats empty. Not only is this a poor spectacle but its just a wasted resource. To me it says that the club has priced these seats poorly and would be better served by lowering the price so that peopel currently paying GA prices pay a little extra for seats on the wings. Premium A is $545 per Adult and Premium B is $410 per Adult whilst GA is $215 per adult. Now consider someone like me who currently pays $215 for their GA admission. The club expects me to pay almost double to sit 30 feet from where i am currently sitting for a slightly better angle? At the end of the day it is the same spectacle, the seats are the same size. and the crowd experience is the same. The relativities are all wrong. Premium B should be a modest increase up from GA and likewise A from B. Then GA members will say - if it is only an extra $50 or so to upgrade the membership why shouldn't I do it? Thus the pricing would be GA - $215 Prem B - $265 Prem A - $315 Now before you jump up and down about loss of revenue let's put this in perspective. Heart had 6,000 members. I woudl estimate that there woudl have been at most 400 Premium A and 600 Premium B members. The revenue from the premium A and B members + GA would have totalled (400 x 545) + (600 x 410) + (5000 x 215) = = $1,539,000. By contrast had my suggested prices been used I would estimate that there would have been 1000 premium A and 2000 premium B members which would equate to total revenue (1000 x 315) + (2000 x 265) + (3000 x 215) = $1,490,000. That revenue is only just slightly below current figures yet look at the vastly improved viewing experience for all the upgraded A and B members. The other idea I had concerned corporate partners. We play at AAMI stadium. Why not have a $20 membership discount if you are an AAMI home insurance member and a further $20 discount if you are a car insurance member? AAMI can pay the club for the amount of the discount and in return it is getting extra peopel signing up for its insurance policies. Similarly with pblic transport if people sign up for a yearly publci transport ticket they coudl get a further $40 discount on their club membership withteh PTC paying MH the $40 for every member signed up for that ticket. That would make club memberships, in net terms, much cheaper than at the moment and this would bring in more members for the club. In fact if you were signed up with say 10 corporate members your club membership (GA level) could be free. cheers Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 You post was pretty long n i couldnt be fucked reading past the second paragraph so i apologise if u mentioned this. Imo the cat a and cat b prices should stay the same n they should introduce cat c, though i guess cat c is probably being saved for the upler tier on the wings if we ever get the members to justify opening it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 We've debated membership costs and benefits over and over again. Since as far as we know no-one from the club looks at this Forum they are not going to even consider any of these ideas, however worthy they are, unless you put them in writing and send to the club. Generally we come down to agreeing that memberships will increase as attendances increase, and that the latter will happen when we start winning more matches at home. That's the key factor. $20 here or there is pretty peripheral in the scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Just buy a membership and shut up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 The other idea I had concerned corporate partners. We play at AAMI stadium. Why not have a $20 membership discount if you are an AAMI home insurance member and a further $20 discount if you are a car insurance member? AAMI can pay the club for the amount of the discount and in return it is getting extra peopel signing up for its insurance policies. cheers Peter Peter, may I just point out that AAMI has naming rights to AAMI Park. AAMI is not a sponsor of the Heart. If you going to ask AAMI to contribute to Heart memberships then everyone else using the stadium is going to want the same - Victory, the Storm, the Rebels etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Hi all I'd like to add my 10 cents worth to this debate with a couple of ideas. Firstly most games I go to I see most of the Premium A and Premium B seats empty. Not only is this a poor spectacle but its just a wasted resource. To me it says that the club has priced these seats poorly and would be better served by lowering the price so that peopel currently paying GA prices pay a little extra for seats on the wings. Premium A is $545 per Adult and Premium B is $410 per Adult whilst GA is $215 per adult. Now consider someone like me who currently pays $215 for their GA admission. The club expects me to pay almost double to sit 30 feet from where i am currently sitting for a slightly better angle? At the end of the day it is the same spectacle, the seats are the same size. and the crowd experience is the same. The relativities are all wrong. Premium B should be a modest increase up from GA and likewise A from B. Then GA members will say - if it is only an extra $50 or so to upgrade the membership why shouldn't I do it? Thus the pricing would be GA - $215 Prem B - $265 Prem A - $315 Now before you jump up and down about loss of revenue let's put this in perspective. Heart had 6,000 members. I woudl estimate that there woudl have been at most 400 Premium A and 600 Premium B members. The revenue from the premium A and B members + GA would have totalled (400 x 545) + (600 x 410) + (5000 x 215) = = $1,539,000. By contrast had my suggested prices been used I would estimate that there would have been 1000 premium A and 2000 premium B members which would equate to total revenue (1000 x 315) + (2000 x 265) + (3000 x 215) = $1,490,000. That revenue is only just slightly below current figures yet look at the vastly improved viewing experience for all the upgraded A and B members. The other idea I had concerned corporate partners. We play at AAMI stadium. Why not have a $20 membership discount if you are an AAMI home insurance member and a further $20 discount if you are a car insurance member? AAMI can pay the club for the amount of the discount and in return it is getting extra peopel signing up for its insurance policies. Similarly with pblic transport if people sign up for a yearly publci transport ticket they coudl get a further $40 discount on their club membership withteh PTC paying MH the $40 for every member signed up for that ticket. That would make club memberships, in net terms, much cheaper than at the moment and this would bring in more members for the club. In fact if you were signed up with say 10 corporate members your club membership (GA level) could be free. cheers Peter So to summarise. 1. You suggest a new membership pricing model that, even given your overly optimistic estimates, leads to us receiving less revenue. 2. Suggest a company that isnt a Heart sponsor will all of a sudden start paying us 20$ per member that is also their client Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Hi all I'd like to add my 10 cents worth to this debate with a couple of ideas. Firstly most games I go to I see most of the Premium A and Premium B seats empty. Not only is this a poor spectacle but its just a wasted resource. To me it says that the club has priced these seats poorly and would be better served by lowering the price so that peopel currently paying GA prices pay a little extra for seats on the wings. Premium A is $545 per Adult and Premium B is $410 per Adult whilst GA is $215 per adult. Now consider someone like me who currently pays $215 for their GA admission. The club expects me to pay almost double to sit 30 feet from where i am currently sitting for a slightly better angle? At the end of the day it is the same spectacle, the seats are the same size. and the crowd experience is the same. The relativities are all wrong. Premium B should be a modest increase up from GA and likewise A from B. Then GA members will say - if it is only an extra $50 or so to upgrade the membership why shouldn't I do it? Agree, we had Premium B family tickets in season 1. For that privilege we did sit 20m from the GA seats in what was a worse viewing spot. Given that it rained almost every home game we either paid for the experience of sitting on already wet seats and getting wetter or moving to the GA area behind the goal that was under cover. We chose that option most times. Consequently, in season 2 and 3 we have paid for GA family tickets. I agree that it makes for a poor TV spectacle when most of the wing seats (visible on TV) are empty and presents a misleading impression of poor support from the fans. Currently the club gets $0 season revenue from most of these seats apart from our home derby games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I got my Active Supporter Membership few days back....does anyone know roughly how long it takes to get in the mail? I'm overly excited about it and im waiting atthe letter box like a 5 yr old almost everyday.... (yes i do work) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macri Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I got my Active Supporter Membership few days back....does anyone know roughly how long it takes to get in the mail? I'm overly excited about it and im waiting atthe letter box like a 5 yr old almost everyday.... (yes i do work) bout a week or two mine took last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 The other idea I had concerned corporate partners. We play at AAMI stadium. Why not have a $20 membership discount if you are an AAMI home insurance member and a further $20 discount if you are a car insurance member? AAMI can pay the club for the amount of the discount and in return it is getting extra peopel signing up for its insurance policies. Similarly with pblic transport if people sign up for a yearly publci transport ticket they coudl get a further $40 discount on their club membership withteh PTC paying MH the $40 for every member signed up for that ticket. its worth noting that AAMI is a suncorp company, and suncorp is a competitor of westpac Westpac would prefer you buy insurance from them rather than a suncorp company. Bar that, I agree with most of your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Latest Heart newsletter says our membership stood at 4750 as of 4th October. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra.11 Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Down on last season? Shows just how important the win on Friday was as well as a good start to the season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 what surprises me is the people who put off buying a membership right up until the day of our first home game. fuck they must lead busy lives if they can't take 5 minutes to buy one online a few weeks in advance. silly thing is they'll now have to queue up with the other people buying new memberships on sunday to witness the kings of melbourne on their journey to the 12/13 chamionship/premiership double 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 what surprises me is the people who put off buying a membership right up until the day of our first home game. fuck they must lead busy lives if they can't take 5 minutes to buy one online a few weeks in advance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_value_of_money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Yes tesla I'm aware of the concept of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Down on last season? Shows just how important the win on Friday was as well as a good start to the season.. What was the membership count last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Down on last season? Shows just how important the win on Friday was as well as a good start to the season.. I dont know, honestly assume many will be bought just before the first game, on the day of the game ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I lead an extremely busy life and havent renewed my membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 my nephew just got his membership lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 I lead an extremely busy life and havent renewed my membership. You have important photographical duties so you're ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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