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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

Isn't Mate sort of doing that already :)

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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

Isn't Mate sort of doing that already :)

That is his prediction. Mate to stay injury free!

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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

Do tell Havn't been notified of much detail as it is still early days BUT from what i do know, lots of players will be moved on/fucked off as well as admin changes (article that Murf posted much spot on when it came to the admin changes) Many players to come in also (thank fuck), with IF to kick the signings off, and as originally said, unless something goes wrong.
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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

Do tellHavn't been notified of much detail as it is still early days BUT from what i do know, lots of players will be moved on/fucked off as well as admin changes (article that Murf posted much spot on when it came to the admin changes) Many players to come in also (thank fuck), with IF to kick the signings off, and as originally said, unless something goes wrong.

Keen to see Franjic

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Huge influx of new players will be happening. With that being said, dont be surprised if we see a Croat running down our right hand side to be the first of many. (Unless something goes wrong, which at this stage is highly unlikely) :-)

Do tellHavn't been notified of much detail as it is still early days BUT from what i do know, lots of players will be moved on/fucked off as well as admin changes (article that Murf posted much spot on when it came to the admin changes) Many players to come in also (thank fuck), with IF to kick the signings off, and as originally said, unless something goes wrong. Keen to see Franjic

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Honestly the most important thing to sort out first is the manager.

It wouldnt surprise me if almost any player in our squad turned into a handy player under a new manager.

Either way, it's important the manager chooses who he wants and doesn't want.

That's what's worrying when you hear Novillo has begun negotiating with the club. Does it mean JVS is staying or does it mean the club is deciding who tko keep befoire a new manager is appointed? Either way, it's not good. Especially since JD is incompetant.

 

CFG favour the continental European method, with the manager having little or no influence on who is signed, the Director of Football doing all of the recruiting. Who the manager is may make little difference to who is signed. The difference between CFG and the rest is that the ideals of the playstyle come from above and is dictated to the Director of Football, in the same way that the DoF usually dictates the playstyle to the manager. CFG is, if anything, more willing to sack its DoFs than its managers. I wouldn't be surprised if Didulica headed for the exit, regardless of JVS' fate.

And I actually prefer this, but that's why I bring up JD being incompetent as well, we can't rely on him to be signing the right players either.

But it's unusual that you say CFG are more willing to sack DoFs, the whole reason for the continental approach of having the DoF taking a more prominent role is to ensure continuity between managers, in regard to having the same style, needing the same sort of players, etc. If anything, it makes it easier to sack the manager, and that's why you see more manager turnover on the continent than in England, while generally the DoF stays around for longer.

Regardless, I think everyone is in agreement that JD needs to go.

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Michael Cockerill reporting today ....

 

And with Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne City back in the market for genuine star power next season, the possibilities are exciting. Among those potentially on offer are Didier Drogba, Andrea Pirlo, Tomas Rosicky, Miroslav Klose and Xavi Hernandez. Now that's a marquee. 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/time-for-marc-janko-to-prove-his-marquee-status-in-aleague-showpiece-20150510-ggy5uo.html

Would definitely take Rosicky. Klose a bit old for my liking, but I could probably overlook his age given the fact he is a great finisher and a good bloke. I like Drogba, but i'm not sure how committed he would be to the club.

 

Knowing our love for signing injury-prone marquees, I expect us to make a strong play for Mario Gomez as he has had a few injury troubles of late.

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I get the sense that next season is the season the club is really going to push the independence from the FFA hard. We have that City TV thing coming to Melbourne you mentioned Falastur, so I doubt we will feature much on those FFA/A league things and this year we dont have any merch on the aleague website which is funny because it looks really obvious that we arnt on there. Plus I noticed this final series that there was alot less content from the FFA on us. Now that might be just because we fell into the finals and probably didnt deserve to be there, but who knows. Oh and there was that small thing of the CFG inviting all the owners and CEO's to Abu Dhabi to talk about an independently run league. 

 

Perhaps. I want to stress that I was told that CityTV would happen, but that they weren't sure when. It would seem fairly simple for an organisation with bottomless pockets like CFG to set up a video team, but clearly there are some hurdles to be overcome. I know that when CityTV was first set up, they hired a TV company to do much of the specialised tasks behind the camera, so that in itself I guess could take months to arrange. I only say that as I want to be sure that, should CityTV not be broadcasting come the new season, people don't come back to me saying that I got it wrong...

 

Well the FFA made their stance on the management of the aleague pretty clear in the whole of football plan they just released.

 

I didn't hear about that. Do you have a link?

 

Cfg's recruiting in the last couple of years with Man City has been abysmal. Last year's epl title really papered over the cracks given Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool shit the bed.

I'm hopeful of us signing players in their prime, rather than former stars in their mid thirties who'll only be here for a season or two.

 

Yeah it has, though FFP has a fairly major part of that. In 2013, CFG made it fairly public that they were trying to change tack completely to a culture of buying cheap and developing players. They got it badly wrong, but they didn't even want to aim for major stars because of that, and because of it they picked some very underwhelming players who didn't improve the team at all. Obviously in 2014 they then had a cap on spending to overcome. I'm not defending the recruitment by any means - I'm one of those who questions whether Txiki should keep his job - but I think CFG would argue that the last two years they've been forced to sign players they didn't want in order to keep spending down. The real test is what happens this summer - on both sides of the world.

 

Id say we would have more of a chance with xavi given the Barcelona connections at CFG. I still wouldnt be suprised to see Lampard walk through the door at preseason

 

Maybe. Xavi's been strongly linked with a Qatari team, though (and NYCFC, although the fans really don't want him).

 

And I actually prefer this, but that's why I bring up JD being incompetent as well, we can't rely on him to be signing the right players either.

But it's unusual that you say CFG are more willing to sack DoFs, the whole reason for the continental approach of having the DoF taking a more prominent role is to ensure continuity between managers, in regard to having the same style, needing the same sort of players, etc. If anything, it makes it easier to sack the manager, and that's why you see more manager turnover on the continent than in England, while generally the DoF stays around for longer.

Regardless, I think everyone is in agreement that JD needs to go.

 

 

Yeah. The difference between us and most teams is that with most teams, the board wants to run the off-field operations but acknowledge that they don't have the know-how to actually handle the team, so they bring in a former player and give him the mandate to handle that stuff. If the club doesn't come up to snuff then the DoF can blame the manager for not properly using the tools he was given. With CFG, a combination of Mansour's personal vision, Khaldoon's practicality in actually instigating it, and having Soriano who has the reputation from his Barca days, mean that CFG believes the continuity comes from the people above the DoF, and the DoF is expected to meet the vision given to him, not to actually come up with that vision. If DoFs are signing players who can't meet the vision then they will be dispensed with just as quickly as a manager might be for failing to make the right players play the right way. In future, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see CFG have a global DoF who has the job of making sure that the DoF at each CFG club know exactly what their team is supposed to be and exactly which players will suit that. They already have a global academy director to make sure that the different academies are run according to "the plan".

 

 

Of course, that's speculation, and my record for speculation is not 100%, but it's where I think CFG will want to go. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the DoF model, though I acknowledge that if you want to make diverse teams from around the world play the same, you kind of need one. I remain unconvinced by Txiki, but I'm sure they'll get the right person in the end, and I'm sure the same will go for Melbourne.

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Well I would rule Xavi out as it is common knowledge he is set to sign a 3 year contract with a Qatari team.

 

Whoever comes in needs to be an upgrade on existing players.

 

That shouldn't be too difficult as we have seen most of the season.

 

I think we have enough youngsters like Melling, Marino, Mauk and Retre

 

What we need is seasoned professionals.

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Michael Cockerill reporting today ....

 

And with Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne City back in the market for genuine star power next season, the possibilities are exciting. Among those potentially on offer are Didier Drogba, Andrea Pirlo, Tomas Rosicky, Miroslav Klose and Xavi Hernandez. Now that's a marquee. 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/time-for-marc-janko-to-prove-his-marquee-status-in-aleague-showpiece-20150510-ggy5uo.html

I would take any of the above mentioned players as a marquee over Koren.

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Well the FFA made their stance on the management of the aleague pretty clear in the whole of football plan they just released.

 

I didn't hear about that. Do you have a link?

Oh, of course, it hasn't been mentioned much on here. The FFA just released a 20 year plan. It's definitely aspirational and it will be very interesting to see how they plan to implement it. Key points re the A-league admin:

"The A-League will be an actively managed and competitively balanced league within a stable and sustainable structure. What does that mean?

- It means that there will always be a role for a central body that can place the common good and long-term strategic objectives of the game at the heart of every decision."

and

"In order for the A-League to become a financially strong and stable league, it must:

- Strengthen the operations of clubs by centralising select administrative services enabling clubs to focus on Football"
 
It also sets out the plans for the w-league, with some big goals: a 20 game season (please yes) and for each A-league club to have a W-league club. No word on timeframes though. Still, I hope one of the offseason announcements from us is a new W-league team. There was some talk about it mid-season, so perhaps it will be more than just a dream.
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Michael Cockerill reporting today ....

 

And with Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne City back in the market for genuine star power next season, the possibilities are exciting. Among those potentially on offer are Didier Drogba, Andrea Pirlo, Tomas Rosicky, Miroslav Klose and Xavi Hernandez. Now that's a marquee. 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/sydney-fc/time-for-marc-janko-to-prove-his-marquee-status-in-aleague-showpiece-20150510-ggy5uo.html

I would take any of the above mentioned players as a marquee over Koren.

Pirlo could play at the top level for years to come, and wouldn't be properly utilised in the A-League. It would almost be a shame to see him playing for us.

Not sure why anyone would want Drogba or Klose, they will struggle to score 5 goals for the season given that they won't receive any service. Villa was better and certainly more rounded than the both of them, as well as having Duff who can actually provide some service, and Villa still didnt do as well as people would have expected.

Xavi is apparently spoken for.

That only leaves Rosicky. I'd take him but people would need to be realistic in their expectations, many players that have come to the A-League from the big European leagues have struggled to adapt to the slower pace in the A-League, especially the few cases of players coming from the EPL. In fact it's pretty much a string of flops, you can include Koren in that list as well given he was in the EPL not that long ago. Then add to the fact that JVS will still be around and seemingly no matter how good a player is they end up struggling under JVS.

Honestly none of these big names really excite me, unless it is Pirlo which seems unlikely to me.

I'd be more interested in seeing the supposed global scouting network we have at our disposal to find a guy that is relatively unknown in Australia but can come here and deliver, eeg Broich, Berisha, etc.

If other clubs can do it surely CFG can.

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I'd be more interested in seeing the supposed global scouting network we have at our disposal to find a guy that is relatively unknown in Australia but can come here and deliver, eeg Broich, Berisha, etc.

 

 

This. Bringing top notch players into the A-League will be like using a Maserati as a ute on unsealed country roads. Berisha and Broich have been great finds that suit the league. Throw in FBK as well. One of my complaints early in the season was how unbalanced the squad was. At beginning of next season I want to see a squad that is well balanced with depth; I want our forwards to not only score but have the ability to apply defensive pressure as well; our defense to be able to go forward and perform set pieces; and our mid-field to boss it in the box physically and creatively. This means that a big name such as Drogba would not be on my list because the rest of the team won't be able to use him.

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Wouldnt be surprised to have the announcements on who is going today or this week. At least the obvious ones today like Wielaert

 

Tomorrow night is the clubs awards night so it would be poor management practice to issue a media statement prior to that event. I would presume that some of the players will already have been in talks with the club and would know their status regarding next season but there won't be a formal statement issued (if at all) until either late in the week or next week.

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Wouldnt be surprised to have the announcements on who is going today or this week. At least the obvious ones today like Wielaert

Tomorrow night is the clubs awards night so it would be poor management practice to issue a media statement prior to that event. I would presume that some of the players will already have been in talks with the club and would know their status regarding next season but there won't be a formal statement issued (if at all) until either late in the week or next week.

Yeah you are right. I forgot about that

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Well the FFA made their stance on the management of the aleague pretty clear in the whole of football plan they just released.

 

I didn't hear about that. Do you have a link?

Oh, of course, it hasn't been mentioned much on here. The FFA just released a 20 year plan. It's definitely aspirational and it will be very interesting to see how they plan to implement it. Key points re the A-league admin:

"The A-League will be an actively managed and competitively balanced league within a stable and sustainable structure. What does that mean?

- It means that there will always be a role for a central body that can place the common good and long-term strategic objectives of the game at the heart of every decision."

and

"In order for the A-League to become a financially strong and stable league, it must:

- Strengthen the operations of clubs by centralising select administrative services enabling clubs to focus on Football"
 
It also sets out the plans for the w-league, with some big goals: a 20 game season (please yes) and for each A-league club to have a W-league club. No word on timeframes though. Still, I hope one of the offseason announcements from us is a new W-league team. There was some talk about it mid-season, so perhaps it will be more than just a dream.

 

 

Thanks for the link.

 

I don't know if it's something that'll happen this off-season, but a women's team is definitely on the agenda for Melbourne City. At the moment, CFG are pumping lots of cash into women's football in Manchester, and they're building one of the best teams, talent-wise, in the country.

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Wouldnt be surprised to have the announcements on who is going today or this week. At least the obvious ones today like Wielaert

Tomorrow night is the clubs awards night so it would be poor management practice to issue a media statement prior to that event. I would presume that some of the players will already have been in talks with the club and would know their status regarding next season but there won't be a formal statement issued (if at all) until either late in the week or next week.

Yeah you are right. I forgot about that

Thursday 10am.

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We need bloody goals!

Look at the tards, whilst I hate them - Berisha has scored 14 goals, whilst Thompson has scored 11, Finkler 7, FBK and Barbarouses 5 each.

City on the other hand - Mooy 7, Williams, Paartalu, Novillo and Koren 3 each.

This exactly!!

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John van't Schip and his coaching staff and football manager, John Didulica, who oversees recruiting and list management, will remain, but they will be bolstered by another layer of administration in the football management structure.

 

Does this mean we are getting our own supplements program?

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Well the FFA made their stance on the management of the aleague pretty clear in the whole of football plan they just released.

 

I didn't hear about that. Do you have a link?

Oh, of course, it hasn't been mentioned much on here. The FFA just released a 20 year plan. It's definitely aspirational and it will be very interesting to see how they plan to implement it. Key points re the A-league admin:

"The A-League will be an actively managed and competitively balanced league within a stable and sustainable structure. What does that mean?

- It means that there will always be a role for a central body that can place the common good and long-term strategic objectives of the game at the heart of every decision."

and

"In order for the A-League to become a financially strong and stable league, it must:

- Strengthen the operations of clubs by centralising select administrative services enabling clubs to focus on Football"

 

It also sets out the plans for the w-league, with some big goals: a 20 game season (please yes) and for each A-league club to have a W-league club. No word on timeframes though. Still, I hope one of the offseason announcements from us is a new W-league team. There was some talk about it mid-season, so perhaps it will be more than just a dream.

 

Thanks for the link.

 

I don't know if it's something that'll happen this off-season, but a women's team is definitely on the agenda for Melbourne City. At the moment, CFG are pumping lots of cash into women's football in Manchester, and they're building one of the best teams, talent-wise, in the country. Would be great to see in Melbourne too! Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later, whenever it does happen.

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