FootscrayRover Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 As to whether it's a good idea, not sure. I think1 marquee is enough. It's original purpose was to bring in a Dwight Yorke, not have 2 Koren's.. Better off keeping the one and just raising the salary cap.I agree totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 As to whether it's a good idea, not sure. I think1 marquee is enough. It's original purpose was to bring in a Dwight Yorke, not have 2 Koren's.. Better off keeping the one and just raising the salary cap.Have to differ from you, because IMO it's an excellent idea and will help move the league forward. It would be completely optional whether you had even one marquee, and so it's not as if it's proposed to be compulsory. As for the quality of the marquees, in theory they all have to be approved by FFA, so perhaps it's time that FFA put the theory into practice and did indeed set and apply criteria for proposed marquees rather than leave it to individual clubs as a way of manipulating their compliance with the salary cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 It is sad how slow this thread is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 where's sharpy news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Can anyone really question the signings we have made for this season? Plus we got rid of some deadwood. I'd rate it 8/10 so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) I reckon at least one thing, and maybe two things, has impacted on Melbourne City's recruitment plans, and quite possibly the club had to jettison its old recruitment plans and targets to pursue new target signings. Hence recruitment has currently slowed down. That the FFA is quite possibly going to announce a 2nd international marquee spot is one thing that could have shaken up the club's recruitment. Club board member Simon Pierce thinking it's "a great idea" suggests that Melbourne City might pursue a new signing, perhaps instead of one of the players that has been linked with Melbourne City. Also Aaron Mooy's situation could be complicating recruitment. It was suggested that he might be moved onto a better contract, and possibly onto a marquee contract. Finding an agreement with Mooy would inevitably effect what other signings the club could make, so that's another thing that could explain the lack of announcements lately. Overall, the recruitment, as well as the moving on of deadwood, has been A grade IMO. As long as the club continues to sign quality players, I can live with the slow recruitment. There is still 10 weeks until the season starts. And thankfully we're playing against an NPL club in the FFA Cup next week, so the current squad should be more than capable. Also, to have a glass-half-full-perspective, maybe fringe players like Retre and Dekker will make use of the opportunity to show they deserve a significant amount of game time next season, and a little good could come about from not having the entirety of next season's starting XI assembled at this point. Edited August 1, 2015 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Again I say it, no striker no top two finish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Fully agree that another good striker is a must. I'd be interested to hear opinions on how much further recruitment is needed. How many positions must the club strengthen before next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Goalkeeper preferably better and more consistent than Tando.Central striker.Right wing.We still have room for six more players in the 23+3 squad including Australian marquee (unless the rule is changed) and two visa players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Goalkeeper preferably better and more consistent than Tando.Central striker.Right wing.We still have room for six more players in the 23+3 squad including Australian marquee (unless the rule is changed) and two visa players.This.We get these 3 spots and quality we will go deep in the finals.I would pursue the keeper spot last, but if we can get a 15+ goal striker, a genuine wide player that can provide 8+ assists and a couple goals then we will have a serious side. Weather we can, not sure. Our season will be decided on who plays at #9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 This.We get these 3 spots and quality we will go deep in the finals.I would pursue the keeper spot last, but if we can get a 15+ goal striker, a genuine wide player that can provide 8+ assists and a couple goals then we will have a serious side. Weather we can, not sure. Our season will be decided on who plays at #9. I definitely agree with you, but with Gameiro and Novillo, I believe they can contribute at least 8 goals each, so I reckon a 10+ goal striker should be the objective, and if he can score more that would be a bonus. For RW i agree as well but he also needs to score goals and I think Fabio Ferriera would be great. With the gk, I'd like to see us approach Brad Jones if he isnt at a club and would expect marquee status wether he's back up or not. With that kind of squad, we could go all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 where's sharpy news?My insider is no longer an insider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 Cahill's kids wearing NYCFC jerseys whilst meeting Pirlo at a club function with their father....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 My insider is no longer an insiderDoesn't matter just make shit up. You might be right. Eventually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Goalkeeper preferably better and more consistent than Tando.Central striker.Right wing.We still have room for six more players in the 23+3 squad including Australian marquee (unless the rule is changed) and two visa players.Fully agree that the club needs to strengthen those 3 positions. And with the club reportedly targeting a goalkeeper, Thomas Sorensen, and a striker, Bruno Fornaroli, it looks like the club is pretty aware that it needs to strengthen in those positions as well. RW is interesting. Gameiro and Kuzmanovski may not be regular starters if we get a new right winger. That would give us awesome depth, but it would seem like something of a waste IMO if those good players weren't playing often.Also, it was very interesting to see Koren start as a right winger in our last match against Man City. He was largely given a free role to roam about, and in defence Koren played as the deeper-lying player in a front two in a 4-4-2. Effectively he played as a nine and a half. IMO this is where he plays best for us, where he has a free role in attack and plays in positions where he can provide a killer pass, instead of in midfield where players have to provide a lot of legwork and defending (neither of which Koren can do at his age IMO). I'm pretty confident Melbourne City will strengthen the striker, goalkeeper and attacker/winger positions. However this will push multiple good players out of the starting XI, giving us awesome depth and lots of flexibility, but it'll be interesting to see which players get cut from the starting line-up. I guess this is one of the best 'problems' a team can have in football, and I'm keen to see how the team goes with such depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Isn't Gameiro our striker? Would've thought he's better suited there than as a winger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Isn't Gameiro our striker? Would've thought he's better suited there than as a wingerI think Gamiero is a winger that can also play as a striker, pretty much like Novillo. In regards to Gamiero though Murf is having a laugh, no one is pushing him out of the starting XI.A quality striker is desperately needed though and personally I think we need another midfielder, as we cant rely on Koren and mellings injury leaves us short. In addition a young defender wouldn't go astray as to wingers well we already have 6, which is surely enough/ too many, unless we plan to offload Brown & Williams, which is unlikely given they are both injured right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Isn't Gameiro our striker? Would've thought he's better suited there than as a wingerHe's one of the limited number of Australian attackers who are genuinely capable as both a striker and a winger (for example the cracking goal he scored against us last season was from the wing). Although he is more suited to the striker position (and I do hope he plays a lot there), it might sometimes be worthwhile to play Gameiro on the wing rather than have him on the bench and have another player on the wing (like Koren, Kuzmanovski or Williams). This is assuming that the club signs a high quality number 9, and Gameiro isn't our main striker.The team, and especially the attack, is shaping up to have heaps of flexibility. So often players who start games won't finish games (or won't finish them in the same position), and thankfully the team is going to have both enough quality and flexibility to deal with these changes (whether tactical or forced) and be highly competitive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 M. Lujic with another 2 goals today.Seriously hope we are looking at him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 He's one of the limited number of Australian attackers who are genuinely capable as both a striker and a winger (for example the cracking goal he scored against us last season was from the wing). Although he is more suited to the striker position (and I do hope he plays a lot there), it might sometimes be worthwhile to play Gameiro on the wing rather than have him on the bench and have another player on the wing (like Koren, Kuzmanovski or Williams). This is assuming that the club signs a high quality number 9, and Gameiro isn't our main striker.The team, and especially the attack, is shaping up to have heaps of flexibility. So often players who start games won't finish games (or won't finish them in the same position), and thankfully the team is going to have both enough quality and flexibility to deal with these changes (whether tactical or forced) and be highly competitive.All too often I've been at AAMI Park and seen opposition teams have vastly superior benches to ours and be able to bring on substitutes without weakening the team on the pitch - while we've been the opposite. This season with our signings so far at long last it looks as though we will be able to have plenty of options up front who can create and take chances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Okay, its obvious we need a striker, and I've been thinking what about Michu? Swansea are trying to get rid of him, he's a proven goal scorer, and with the CFG influence, maybe there could be a chance... thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Ring CFG and put it to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 M. Lujic with another 2 goals today.Seriously hope we are looking at him.After watching him play last in the FFA Cup match last Wednesday I think I would pass.Work rate was pedestrian and should have out a few of those chances away at that level if he wants to step up into a HAL team.As I have said previously, I think there must be other reasons why he hasn't got a HAL deal, even after scoring goals for fun in the NPL. That match seemed to potentially show just why WP didn't play him when he was there on a short term deal and Sydney FC didn't sign him after his trial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiji19 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 After watching him play last in the FFA Cup match last Wednesday I think I would pass.Work rate was pedestrian and should have out a few of those chances away at that level if he wants to step up into a HAL team.As I have said previously, I think there must be other reasons why he hasn't got a HAL deal, even after scoring goals for fun in the NPL. That match seemed to potentially show just why WP didn't play him when he was there on a short term deal and Sydney FC didn't sign him after his trial.I think someone posted earlier as to why that may be, could be regarding salary, something along the lines of him earning 60k+ as a teacher and 20k from south, if were to sign him I dont think it would be anything over a minimum wage contract which is what? Like 45-50k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 James Troisi anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Soccer stopage time just tweeted that troisi is keen to come to city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I guess I would rather see us trial someone like lujic as opposed to someone like trifiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Sign Mark moric, 6 goals in 2 games with the Aus U16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can play anywhere across the front 3, can score freely in the A-League (12 goals in his 1 season in the A-League) and also produce assists. Would be a first class signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 James Troisi anyone?No Vucktree puppets thanks. Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 No Vucktree puppets thanks. Next!You'd say no to Troisi because of a loan season with victory ?Ok then... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 The butthurt from vicscum supporters would be funny. On top of that he's a class player. Would take without doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 You'd say no to Troisi because of a loan season with victory ?Ok then...Yes. Purely because I'm sick of us picking up Victory's sloppy seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 The butthurt from vicscum supporters would be funny. On top of that he's a class player. Would take without doubt. Agree. Top player. I can't see how we could squeeze him into the cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Agree. Top player. I can't see how we could squeeze him into the cap?Mooy to Australian marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Mooy to Australian marquee.This x 10000000000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Mooy to Australian marquee.If he signs for two years aswell. If we're going to use the spot for him we should take the opportunity to extend his contact beyond this season. Then there is something in it for mooy and the club. And he should be happy he has the opportunity to stay another year at the illustrious club we are becoming. Edited August 3, 2015 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Troisi wont sign under the cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 ummm, wouldn't Troisi be the one who is the Australian marquee if he signed?Could mean Mooy is gone actually TBH, aren't left wing and attacking midfield his main two positions? Don't need a player in either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Troisi wont sign under the cap Why not? He wasn't marquee at victory was he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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