Davy21 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: Any more details? Not sure how much I can say, to paraphrase he seems to love the club and wants to be here, but he also thinks that the current manager wont play him. Doesn't sound positive, he doesn't want to move, but from what I understand feels he might have to, because he just wants to play football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Davy21 said: Not sure how much I can say, to paraphrase he seems to love the club and wants to be here, but he also thinks that the current manager wont play him. Doesn't sound positive, he doesn't want to move, but from what I understand feels he might have to, because he just wants to play football Not quite sure what to make of this. Half-way though the season, what assurance is he going to get that he will play if he moves? Not all the 23 members of an A-League squad get to play every match. Part of being a professional footballer is that you may not play regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Davy21 said: Not sure how much I can say, to paraphrase he seems to love the club and wants to be here, but he also thinks that the current manager wont play him. Doesn't sound positive, he doesn't want to move, but from what I understand feels he might have to, because he just wants to play football Thanks mate. Feel for the bloke. Deserving of a shot. Been a fan of him since I watched his debut at Port Melbourne just after he joined the club. Edited January 9, 2018 by JMSTEP123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Not quite sure what to make of this. Half-way though the season, what assurance is he going to get that he will play if he moves? Not all the 23 members of an A-League squad get to play every match. Part of being a professional footballer is that you may not play regularly. It seems pretty apparent that he is being frozen out, even more so when you consider that Jako and Malik were/are playing in his position. If he was getting some game then he would arguably be able to force his way into a starting berth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, malloy said: It seems pretty apparent that he is being frozen out, even more so when you consider that Jako and Malik were/are playing in his position. If he was getting some game then he would arguably be able to force his way into a starting berth. Kilkenny hasn't played since the 24th of November (when he was subbed on late for 11 minutes [he's played 70 minutes total this season]). Given that we're playing a game 72 hours after Saturday's match, It's pretty remarkable that Kilkenny isn't even around the bench for this game. It does look like he is being frozen out, hence there seems to be nothing he could do to force his way back in. The current situation doesn't seem to be helping Kilkenny professionally much at all. Edited January 9, 2018 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Would love to know the exact reason from Waz why Kilkenny is being frozen out, I would think he would be one of the most hardest working at training. It must be mouth? Waz is forming a typical dictator mentality, any one that questions him or could aquire more power will be sent to the dogs.... or in our case, forced out or frozen from the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 There's only room for one alpha male, in these steep pyramidical hierarchies all the little kittens need to just do what they are told and it doesn't pay to ever have your own thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, haz said: Would love to know the exact reason from Waz why Kilkenny is being frozen out, I would think he would be one of the most hardest working at training. It must be mouth? Waz is forming a typical dictator mentality, any one that questions him or could aquire more power will be sent to the dogs.... or in our case, forced out or frozen from the squad. Lol cmon Haz, noone here knows whether thats even remotely true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Not quite sure what to make of this. Half-way though the season, what assurance is he going to get that he will play if he moves? Not all the 23 members of an A-League squad get to play every match. Part of being a professional footballer is that you may not play regularly. Being the best Australian midfielder in the a League would make it close to a guarantee surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, bt50 said: Lol cmon Haz, noone here knows whether thats even remotely true. The most outspoken players/coaches are the ones who have walked so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, haz said: The most outspoken players/coaches are the ones who have walked so far Doesnt mean those players are a) right, b ) any chance of acquiring more power or c) walking (or not being selected)for the reason the wider fan base thinks. I'm not defending Joyce here, just saying that we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and why and to suggest we do know is probably a bit unfair to either party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, haz said: The most outspoken players/coaches are the ones who have walked so far Ha ha, so who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, bt50 said: Doesnt mean those players are a) right, b ) any chance of acquiring more power or c) walking (or not being selected)for the reason the wider fan base thinks. I'm not defending Joyce here, just saying that we have no idea what's going on behind the scenes and why and to suggest we do know is probably a bit unfair to either party. Of course its all speculation. TBH the reason why I have still left luggage on the #WazIn train after boarding the #WazOut express connection is that I like his hard nut disipline attitude. I just hope it doesn't become too much. 18 minutes ago, playmaker said: Ha ha, so who are you referring to? Valkanis, Cahill. Dont know what Kilkenny is at training but on the pitch hes quite commanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The best leadership is one that empowers players to work within a shared vision, the skill is in selling the vision and finding the individual motivating factors for each player in the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, belaguttman said: The best leadership is one that empowers players to work within a shared vision, the skill is in selling the vision and finding the individual motivating factors for each player in the team. Just wanted to add that there are managers that are threatened by staff who ‘speak’ up and then there are managers that have the self confidence and belief to manage so called ‘difficult’ players to the betterment of the team. I just wonder which of these two management types Joyce best represents? Skill wise Kilkenny would just about walk into any other HAL side yet we seem to be freezing him out. I hope this is the correct strategy. Edited January 9, 2018 by HEARTinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 The management skill is to turn those who speak up into allies, different perspectives are often useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Jamieson . Malik. Brattan Vidosic Atkinson. Ross. Arzani Close to my ideal starting eleven. Excited. Edited January 9, 2018 by n i k o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, n i k o said: Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Jamieson . Malik. Brattan Vidosic Atkinson. Ross. Arzani I Like this set up but i reckon it’ll be more like this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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n i k o Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Missing_Moy said: I Like this set up but i reckon it’ll be more like this Please no Jako in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, n i k o said: Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Jamieson . Malik. Brattan Vidosic Atkinson. Ross. Arzani Close to my ideal starting eleven. Excited. Yep. Could even be a 3-4-3 tbh. Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Atkinson Malik. Brattan Jamieson Vidosic Ross. Arzani They clearly rate Robocop very highly. Keen to see him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bt50 said: Yep. Could even be a 3-4-3 tbh. Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Atkinson Malik. Brattan Jamieson Vidosic Ross. Arzani They clearly rate Robocop very highly. Keen to see him. Could very well be. Edited: It's Waz, no chance 3 at the back. Edited January 9, 2018 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 minute ago, bt50 said: Yep. Could even be a 3-4-3 tbh. Bouzanis Delbridge. Bort. Jako. Atkinson Malik. Brattan Jamieson Vidosic Ross. Arzani They clearly rate Robocop very highly. Keen to see him. Would be pretty happy with either this or Niko's team, although I suspect we may see Jako return to the midfield. Also keen to see Delbridge, personnel wise I reckon he couldn't really have picked a better side atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, haz said: Valkanis, Cahill. Dont know what Kilkenny is at training but on the pitch hes quite commanding I dont think both of these people were of any value going forward and if they were major contributors to the cultural problems that Wazza has been placed in charge to fix, then there are always going to be a small percentage of any group of people that will not comply. The situation Wazza has been put in is not an easy one, so ultimately he needs to do what is needed to achieve his objectives (that has been set by CFG). If culling the list is one of them then so be it, but I am sure he is not doing it without going through the correct processes set out by CFG. Any player or staff member needs to submit and buy into guidelines given by their employer, to think anything different then they don't belong there Either they leave or they get shown the door, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, n i k o said: Could very well be. Edited: It's Waz, no chance 3 at the back. Likely its not as per @Embee, but we did play three at the back against Sydney way back in the Cup if you recall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, bt50 said: Likely its not as per @Embee, but we did play three at the back against Sydney way back in the Cup if you recall... Don't remember actually, I've erased that game from my mind haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICHAEL_MACGYVER Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Can someone please explain to me WHY IN ALL FUCK IS BOUZANIS IN GOAL AGAIN?????? Have we learnt nothing from the past 5 games?? Why does WJ hate galekovic so much??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, MICHAEL_MACGYVER said: Can someone please explain to me WHY IN ALL FUCK IS BOUZANIS IN GOAL AGAIN?????? Have we learnt nothing from the past 5 games?? Why does WJ hate galekovic so much??? Can you post the picture? 5 minutes ago, playmaker said: I dont think both of these people were of any value going forward and if they were major contributors to the cultural problems that Wazza has been placed in charge to fix, then there are always going to be a small percentage of any group of people that will not comply. The situation Wazza has been put in is not an easy one, so ultimately he needs to do what is needed to achieve his objectives (that has been set by CFG). If culling the list is one of them then so be it, but I am sure he is not doing it without going through the correct processes set out by CFG. Any player or staff member needs to submit and buy into guidelines given by their employer, to think anything different then they don't belong there Either they leave or they get shown the door, period. No saying its a bad thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, MICHAEL_MACGYVER said: Can someone please explain to me WHY IN ALL FUCK IS BOUZANIS IN GOAL AGAIN?????? Have we learnt nothing from the past 5 games?? Why does WJ hate galekovic so much??? I'd suggest because he's only made one fuckup, and one questionable one in 5 games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 go on our club's instagram story to see PK bend over in undies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICHAEL_MACGYVER Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Just now, bt50 said: I'd suggest because he's only made one fuckup, and one questionable one in 5 games? Your shit stirring right? Last I checked Galekovic was the best keeper in the league and WJ has him warming the fucking pine for this fucking dumb ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, MICHAEL_MACGYVER said: Your shit stirring right? Last I checked Galekovic was the best keeper in the league and WJ has him warming the fucking pine for this fucking dumb ass. Well if youre running a meritocracy and Bouzanis comes in and performs like he did in that Newy game, then you cant really drop him til he deserves it. Even Euge made a few howlers over his 8 or so games if you recall. Not sure there's that much difference tbh, other than Dean is one of those blokes people like to hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, playmaker said: I dont think both of these people were of any value going forward and if they were major contributors to the cultural problems that Wazza has been placed in charge to fix, then there are always going to be a small percentage of any group of people that will not comply. The situation Wazza has been put in is not an easy one, so ultimately he needs to do what is needed to achieve his objectives (that has been set by CFG). If culling the list is one of them then so be it, but I am sure he is not doing it without going through the correct processes set out by CFG. Any player or staff member needs to submit and buy into guidelines given by their employer, to think anything different then they don't belong there Either they leave or they get shown the door, period. It's not about making players compliant, it's about motivating them to actively contribute to the vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE LINE-UP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, haz said: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE POST THE LINE-UP Unless I've missed something look further up the thread bud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitual Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 Perth are paying $3.20 on Sportsbet. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MICHAEL_MACGYVER Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Habitual said: Perth are paying $3.20 on Sportsbet. You're welcome. First half will be shithouse as usual for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 I’ve legit put $50 on Perth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, n i k o said: Unless I've missed something look further up the thread bud Wow apologies. Im stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitual Posted January 9, 2018 Report Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, jeffplz said: I’ve legit put $50 on Perth Perth Glory v Melbourne CityAnytime GoalscorerDiego Castro @ 3.30 Perth Glory v Melbourne CityAnytime GoalscorerAndy Keogh @ 2.88 Perth Glory v Melbourne CityFirst GoalscorerDiego Castro @ 7.00 Perth Glory v Melbourne CityWin-Draw-WinPerth Glory @ 3.20 Perth Glory v Melbourne CityHandicap BettingPerth Glory (+1.0) @ 1.62 I went harder than Rosco at a buffet tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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