AlexJones Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 All our coaches are dickheads so why don't we be more of a dickhead club and bring back JVS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Oh this forum keeps me entertained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Honestly I can accept the banter but JVS’ PEC Zwolle are actually doing really well. 4th in their league with 18 matches played, behind only Ajax, Eindhoven and AZ Alkmaar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, jeffplz said: Honestly I can accept the banter but JVS’ PEC Zwolle are actually doing really well. 4th in their league with 18 matches played, behind only Ajax, Eindhoven and AZ Alkmaar Which begs the question - do we need overseas coaches? They don't appear to be that successful in an Australian setting like teh A-League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) Also bring back maycon, and the free WiFi at Aami park. Also, does anyone know where the sausage stand has been during this season? Haven't been able to find it anywhere :'( Edited December 29, 2017 by kingofhearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJones Posted December 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Also bring back maycon, and the free WiFi at Aami park. Also, does anyone know where the sausage stand has been during this season? Haven't been able to find it anywhere :'( Was there a sausage stand...im sick of the shitty chicken strips and wierd potato looking chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 46 minutes ago, NewConvert said: Which begs the question - do we need overseas coaches? They don't appear to be that successful in an Australian setting like teh A-League. There is a fair bit of data to suggest Australian coaches are under rated. It just seems we have a “cultural cringe” when it comes to football. A foreigner simply must be better, even when there is no particular evidence as to why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Shahanga said: There is a fair bit of data to suggest Australian coaches are under rated. It just seems we have a “cultural cringe” when it comes to football. A foreigner simply must be better, even when there is no particular evidence as to why. This view seems to be promoted by Craig Foster. I note that most foreign managers don't do much here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJones Posted December 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Look at Graham Arnold atm. Even though they have been lucky a few times (against us), he has still has been a successful coach in the A-League with both CCM and Sydney. 7 minutes ago, NewConvert said: This view seems to be promoted by Craig Foster. I note that most foreign managers don't do much here. Amore was successful with Adelaide and also Merick with Victory and now Newcastle but there the only coaches i can think of who were from Europe. Lets see how Wazza turns out. Prove me wrong Wazza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Marco Kurz is doing well, Gombau in time i think will get it right at the wanderers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, NewConvert said: This view seems to be promoted by Craig Foster. I note that most foreign managers don't do much here. 15 minutes ago, Shahanga said: There is a fair bit of data to suggest Australian coaches are under rated. It just seems we have a “cultural cringe” when it comes to football. A foreigner simply must be better, even when there is no particular evidence as to why. Not sure about that. Its probably fifty fifty with success rates of foreign coaches as opposed to Australian. Actually just checked and using the Premiers (team that finished season on top but it's another debate about GF) its 7 Australian born to 5 Foreign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=mgr&show=msm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Ernie Merrick came to Australia in 1975 I think. He has an interesting background. This is worth a read. https://www.playersvoice.com.au/ernie-merrick-my-forefather-the-italian-lion-tamer/#MMGBoGAugRxQ8bm2.97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 Bring back Xmas 2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, hedaik said: Bring back Xmas 2011 I was leaning more towards 15/16. We had Mooy Novillo and Fornaroli all in form. But most importantly we had the sausage stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 1 hour ago, AlexJones said: Look at Graham Arnold atm. Even though they have been lucky a few times (against us), he has still has been a successful coach in the A-League with both CCM and Sydney. Amore was successful with Adelaide and also Merick with Victory and now Newcastle but there the only coaches i can think of who were from Europe. Lets see how Wazza turns out. Prove me wrong Wazza Merrick would be counted as an Aussie, being a citizen and having done all his training here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 JVS is a coaching genius compared to warren magilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 FWIW, with PEC Zwolle JVS has a Points per Game (ppg) average of 2.0 currently. His 2nd time at Heart/City he was getting 1.48. His win % at PEC Zwolle is 57.1% and during his 2nd stint here, it was 40.7% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 19 hours ago, jeffplz said: Honestly I can accept the banter but JVS’ PEC Zwolle are actually doing really well. 4th in their league with 18 matches played, behind only Ajax, Eindhoven and AZ Alkmaar Ah, but this begs the question. How long does it take for a bad coach/manager to affect a good team/business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted December 29, 2017 Report Share Posted December 29, 2017 So far he was our best coach. We played really well at the beginning of the season. Won the Cup. The way we played on Etihad, Wazza can only dream about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, mjake1234 said: Ah, but this begs the question. How long does it take for a bad coach/manager to affect a good team/business. Except Zwolle finished 14th last season only 1 points clear of the relegation playoff 16/17 P:34 W:9 D:8 L:17 GD: -28 PTS: 35 JVS 17/18 P:18 W:9 D:6 L:3 GD: 5 PTS: 33 Thats a pretty huge turnaround. Maybe JVS is semi-decent and the A-League wasn't the right environment for him to shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 30, 2017 Report Share Posted December 30, 2017 Joe Palatsides has a pretty good record with our youth teams and 17 years overall coaching experience. I wonder whether he's ever been in the frame for the top job here at City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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