Listerfiend Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours Edited May 23, 2014 by Listerfiend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeven Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm a Man City fan, now living in Australia and will be following the fortunes of Melbourne Heart with interest from now on, which i guess is kind of the point, at least in part. I think a name change is probably inevitable, based on the fact an application was already lodged, but I think it would be better to keep the red and white stripes. I am fully aware that pale blue is NSW in whatever sport you care to mention and it should remain thus. I do wonder though, and i would be interested to hear what Heart fans think; if the CFG insist on sky blue colours, what would the feeling be to leaving the shirt as they are and having blue shorts a la Atletico Madrid? I think they look pretty good, and it might be a solution that everyone can live with? To summarise: some aren't fussed, many aren't happy but accept it, many actively dislike light blue that is the colour of New south wales, Victoria's traditional rivals, some will disengage from the franchise. Light blue pants would be a better alternative to a light blue jersey. If you look at the poll on this site only a tiny minority want to change our home colours. Almost all are perplexed that CFG have tried so hard to engage the potential NYCFC fans over colours and logos but have virtually ignored us. Surely by now all evidence points to a scenario of a big announcement of high calibre players to mitigate the disappointment of a sky blue home kit, That's probably true and a large part of the upside And changing of the colours being a large part of the downside. FWIW I think the biggest upside of all of this is how the spotlight, resources and the effective increase in competitiveness of this new team affect the league as a whole. It's just a shame that Heart had to be the team that was sacrificed for it all. Has anyone from the club actually come out and said that the colours are going to change or is it just a fishing expedition that's gained momentum? Man City's colours were already sky blue, NYCFC being a new club it's natural they will pick sky blue for them; but why does everyone assume that the Heart colours will change? I haven't heard anyone saying that the YF Marinos of Japan are going to get new colours, even thought we just bought a chunk of them. Different kettle of fish to be fair, City only bought a minority share in Yokohama F Marinos whereas they own 80% of us. I'd be surprised if we retained the red and white, as our home kit anyway. Dont the Japanese side already play in some variation of blue? You're right blue will be the colour. From CFGs point of view its no brainer. Just think of the global sponsorship deals CFG can sign with clubs under the same brand playing on all continents. All clubs under CFG will powerhouses in their leagues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours that's what most fans here are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listerfiend Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm a Man City fan, now living in Australia and will be following the fortunes of Melbourne Heart with interest from now on, which i guess is kind of the point, at least in part. I think a name change is probably inevitable, based on the fact an application was already lodged, but I think it would be better to keep the red and white stripes. I am fully aware that pale blue is NSW in whatever sport you care to mention and it should remain thus. I do wonder though, and i would be interested to hear what Heart fans think; if the CFG insist on sky blue colours, what would the feeling be to leaving the shirt as they are and having blue shorts a la Atletico Madrid? I think they look pretty good, and it might be a solution that everyone can live with? To summarise: some aren't fussed, many aren't happy but accept it, many actively dislike light blue that is the colour of New south wales, Victoria's traditional rivals, some will disengage from the franchise. Light blue pants would be a better alternative to a light blue jersey. If you look at the poll on this site only a tiny minority want to change our home colours. Almost all are perplexed that CFG have tried so hard to engage the potential NYCFC fans over colours and logos but have virtually ignored us. Surely by now all evidence points to a scenario of a big announcement of high calibre players to mitigate the disappointment of a sky blue home kit, That's probably true and a large part of the upside And changing of the colours being a large part of the downside. FWIW I think the biggest upside of all of this is how the spotlight, resources and the effective increase in competitiveness of this new team affect the league as a whole. It's just a shame that Heart had to be the team that was sacrificed for it all. Has anyone from the club actually come out and said that the colours are going to change or is it just a fishing expedition that's gained momentum? Man City's colours were already sky blue, NYCFC being a new club it's natural they will pick sky blue for them; but why does everyone assume that the Heart colours will change? I haven't heard anyone saying that the YF Marinos of Japan are going to get new colours, even thought we just bought a chunk of them. Different kettle of fish to be fair, City only bought a minority share in Yokohama F Marinos whereas they own 80% of us. I'd be surprised if we retained the red and white, as our home kit anyway. Dont the Japanese side already play in some variation of blue? You're right blue will be the colour. From CFGs point of view its no brainer. Just think of the global sponsorship deals CFG can sign with clubs under the same brand playing on all continents. All clubs under CFG will powerhouses in their leagues their home kit this year was blue, with red and white trim............. fancy that! One thing's for sure, it's going to be an interesting ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm a Man City fan, now living in Australia and will be following the fortunes of Melbourne Heart with interest from now on, which i guess is kind of the point, at least in part. I think a name change is probably inevitable, based on the fact an application was already lodged, but I think it would be better to keep the red and white stripes. I am fully aware that pale blue is NSW in whatever sport you care to mention and it should remain thus. I do wonder though, and i would be interested to hear what Heart fans think; if the CFG insist on sky blue colours, what would the feeling be to leaving the shirt as they are and having blue shorts a la Atletico Madrid? I think they look pretty good, and it might be a solution that everyone can live with? To summarise: some aren't fussed, many aren't happy but accept it, many actively dislike light blue that is the colour of New south wales, Victoria's traditional rivals, some will disengage from the franchise. Light blue pants would be a better alternative to a light blue jersey. If you look at the poll on this site only a tiny minority want to change our home colours. Almost all are perplexed that CFG have tried so hard to engage the potential NYCFC fans over colours and logos but have virtually ignored us. Surely by now all evidence points to a scenario of a big announcement of high calibre players to mitigate the disappointment of a sky blue home kit, That's probably true and a large part of the upside And changing of the colours being a large part of the downside. FWIW I think the biggest upside of all of this is how the spotlight, resources and the effective increase in competitiveness of this new team affect the league as a whole. It's just a shame that Heart had to be the team that was sacrificed for it all. Has anyone from the club actually come out and said that the colours are going to change or is it just a fishing expedition that's gained momentum? Man City's colours were already sky blue, NYCFC being a new club it's natural they will pick sky blue for them; but why does everyone assume that the Heart colours will change? I haven't heard anyone saying that the YF Marinos of Japan are going to get new colours, even thought we just bought a chunk of them. Different kettle of fish to be fair, City only bought a minority share in Yokohama F Marinos whereas they own 80% of us. I'd be surprised if we retained the red and white, as our home kit anyway. Dont the Japanese side already play in some variation of blue? You're right blue will be the colour. From CFGs point of view its no brainer. Just think of the global sponsorship deals CFG can sign with clubs under the same brand playing on all continents. All clubs under CFG will powerhouses in their leagues I can't imagine any major sponsorship would be based on what colour a teams kit is. Especially for what we would bring to the table compared to Man City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) I'm a Man City fan, now living in Australia and will be following the fortunes of Melbourne Heart with interest from now on, which i guess is kind of the point, at least in part. I think a name change is probably inevitable, based on the fact an application was already lodged, but I think it would be better to keep the red and white stripes. I am fully aware that pale blue is NSW in whatever sport you care to mention and it should remain thus. I do wonder though, and i would be interested to hear what Heart fans think; if the CFG insist on sky blue colours, what would the feeling be to leaving the shirt as they are and having blue shorts a la Atletico Madrid? I think they look pretty good, and it might be a solution that everyone can live with? To summarise: some aren't fussed, many aren't happy but accept it, many actively dislike light blue that is the colour of New south wales, Victoria's traditional rivals, some will disengage from the franchise. Light blue pants would be a better alternative to a light blue jersey. If you look at the poll on this site only a tiny minority want to change our home colours. Almost all are perplexed that CFG have tried so hard to engage the potential NYCFC fans over colours and logos but have virtually ignored us. Surely by now all evidence points to a scenario of a big announcement of high calibre players to mitigate the disappointment of a sky blue home kit, That's probably true and a large part of the upside And changing of the colours being a large part of the downside. FWIW I think the biggest upside of all of this is how the spotlight, resources and the effective increase in competitiveness of this new team affect the league as a whole. It's just a shame that Heart had to be the team that was sacrificed for it all. A shame? Fuck that, I love that we're the centre of it. Naturally people will draw their own conclusions from what has been hinted at so far in this whole buy-out thing. I'm in the "different name, different colours, different team" crowd. I feel it's a shame because Heart was bit of a flog, but they were a flog we all loved, we stuck through all those bad times because we believed in it. It seems the Heart chapter of Australian football is coming to a close, and while there was a bit of heroism at the end, I feel Heart was done a disservice by not being afforded the chance to redeem themselves. Of course I'm basing all this on pure speculation, but the silence is deafening. Now I'm still going to follow the new chapter of this Mini-Man City, I'm thrilled about the potential, and I like brand of football they are promising. Victory can fuck off. But like it's been said before here, my relationship with this franchise has been reset to 0. Edit: Sorry I realise I didn't actually respond to what you said. I am loving that the spotlight is on us for a change and we're not making huge announcements about players of the Mifsud calibre. Edited May 23, 2014 by Jun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeven Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours You dont think it make no sense? theres 3 distinctive parts that make up the CFG brand. 1. city name (located in iconic cities) 2 the colour 3, the specific way of playing football. the purpose of the brand is to be the leading sportsbrand on earth. just think what kind of sponsorship deals, infrastructure that can come with it, We will not compete with other clubs but with entire leagues and competetions for sponsorships This will make sure all clubs under CFG will be the strongest and most competitive in their leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeven Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm a Man City fan, now living in Australia and will be following the fortunes of Melbourne Heart with interest from now on, which i guess is kind of the point, at least in part. I think a name change is probably inevitable, based on the fact an application was already lodged, but I think it would be better to keep the red and white stripes. I am fully aware that pale blue is NSW in whatever sport you care to mention and it should remain thus. I do wonder though, and i would be interested to hear what Heart fans think; if the CFG insist on sky blue colours, what would the feeling be to leaving the shirt as they are and having blue shorts a la Atletico Madrid? I think they look pretty good, and it might be a solution that everyone can live with? To summarise: some aren't fussed, many aren't happy but accept it, many actively dislike light blue that is the colour of New south wales, Victoria's traditional rivals, some will disengage from the franchise. Light blue pants would be a better alternative to a light blue jersey. If you look at the poll on this site only a tiny minority want to change our home colours. Almost all are perplexed that CFG have tried so hard to engage the potential NYCFC fans over colours and logos but have virtually ignored us. Surely by now all evidence points to a scenario of a big announcement of high calibre players to mitigate the disappointment of a sky blue home kit, That's probably true and a large part of the upside And changing of the colours being a large part of the downside. FWIW I think the biggest upside of all of this is how the spotlight, resources and the effective increase in competitiveness of this new team affect the league as a whole. It's just a shame that Heart had to be the team that was sacrificed for it all. Has anyone from the club actually come out and said that the colours are going to change or is it just a fishing expedition that's gained momentum? Man City's colours were already sky blue, NYCFC being a new club it's natural they will pick sky blue for them; but why does everyone assume that the Heart colours will change? I haven't heard anyone saying that the YF Marinos of Japan are going to get new colours, even thought we just bought a chunk of them. Different kettle of fish to be fair, City only bought a minority share in Yokohama F Marinos whereas they own 80% of us. I'd be surprised if we retained the red and white, as our home kit anyway. Dont the Japanese side already play in some variation of blue? You're right blue will be the colour. From CFGs point of view its no brainer. Just think of the global sponsorship deals CFG can sign with clubs under the same brand playing on all continents. All clubs under CFG will powerhouses in their leagues I can't imagine any major sponsorship would be based on what colour a teams kit is. Especially for what we would bring to the table compared to Man City You cant? why would a sponsor, sponsor anything? the color is a huge part of brand recognition. if theres no brand recognition there will be no large sponsorships. ppl around the world must assosiate skyblue with CFG. If Melbourne dont play in skyblue, ppl may not see the connection which for a sponsor is never a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listerfiend Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours You dont think it make no sense? theres 3 distinctive parts that make up the CFG brand. 1. city name (located in iconic cities) 2 the colour 3, the specific way of playing football. the purpose of the brand is to be the leading sportsbrand on earth. just think what kind of sponsorship deals, infrastructure that can come with it, We will not compete with other clubs but with entire leagues and competetions for sponsorships This will make sure all clubs under CFG will be the strongest and most competitive in their leagues. No it doesn't make any sense to me. I'd have been pissed beyond belief if they had changed City's colours to some shade of red, or any other colour come to that. The fans just would not have accepted it, not a chance in hell. So why should they do it here? i understand all clubs being called' City' since that's the name of the group, but i'd be amazed tbh if the Heart, and NYCFC play the same specific way as Man City... totally different leagues and situations.Sure they will expect to play an attacking, expansive brand, but that's hardly specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeven Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not really answering the question tho. i've heard a lot of vitriol around work and stuff about changing the colours, but yet I've not yet heard a peep from the owners it makes no sense to me, to brand a Victorian team with NSW colours You dont think it make no sense? theres 3 distinctive parts that make up the CFG brand. 1. city name (located in iconic cities) 2 the colour 3, the specific way of playing football. the purpose of the brand is to be the leading sportsbrand on earth. just think what kind of sponsorship deals, infrastructure that can come with it, We will not compete with other clubs but with entire leagues and competetions for sponsorships This will make sure all clubs under CFG will be the strongest and most competitive in their leagues. No it doesn't make any sense to me. I'd have been pissed beyond belief if they had changed City's colours to some shade of red, or any other colour come to that. The fans just would not have accepted it, not a chance in hell. So why should they do it here? i understand all clubs being called' City' since that's the name of the group, but i'd be amazed tbh if the Heart, and NYCFC play the same specific way as Man City... totally different leagues and situations.Sure they will expect to play an attacking, expansive brand, but that's hardly specific. Because of different leagues teams cannot play a certian way? appearently everyone connected to CFG disagree with you and so do i. I do understand the emotional point of keeping the colors, but im just talking from a business point of view, And there can be no dening that melbourne will be better off in the future under the brand of CFG thana under heart/red&white. The important thing is to seperate Emotion and logic not to say one is more valid than the other. I just give my two cents how i believe CFGs strategy looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listerfiend Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I think the best thing about reading through this forum and participating on this thread tonight is the obvious level of passion that you guys have in this club. I hope you all realise that, irrespective of who the owners are, or what the colours are or what the badge says or who the players are or whatever that it's you guys that are the club. everything else is just temporary, but if you can support them with the level of passion i have seen tonight on my brief visit, the future ( be it a blue one or a red one) will be very bright indeed. thanks and good night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeven Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I think the best thing about reading through this forum and participating on this thread tonight is the obvious level of passion that you guys have in this club. I hope you all realise that, irrespective of who the owners are, or what the colours are or what the badge says or who the players are or whatever that it's you guys that are the club. everything else is just temporary, but if you can support them with the level of passion i have seen tonight on my brief visit, the future ( be it a blue one or a red one) will be very bright indeed. thanks and good night Well said. Its not that i advocate a color change. just that i can understand why it has to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
United Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 With all understanding, it doesn't change the fact that Heart will cease to exist, it's history wiped out. This takeover has done only one thing, kept a 2nd Melbourne based team in the competition, it's a totally different and new club now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Erm, the history is surely retained.. It follows the licence I guess? That´s how it works in Europe anyway, the specific licence is what keeps the old titles and all the clubs history regardless of name, colours etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Erm, the history is surely retained.. It follows the licence I guess? That´s how it works in Europe anyway, the specific licence is what keeps the old titles and all the clubs history regardless of name, colours etc. Spot on. Agree wholeheartedly I suppose it's just about where each individual draws the line, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Erm, the history is surely retained.. It follows the licence I guess? That´s how it works in Europe anyway, the specific licence is what keeps the old titles and all the clubs history regardless of name, colours etc. I never thought of it like that, not that we have any titles, but maybe that is the one link to the old club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Erm, the history is surely retained.. It follows the licence I guess? That´s how it works in Europe anyway, the specific licence is what keeps the old titles and all the clubs history regardless of name, colours etc. That is strictly correct, I think though that the difference here comes from the fact that we don't have clubs we have franchises so we don't have a true membership connection to the franchise, we aren't even stakeholders, we are customers. That makes us more sensitive to those changes as it's only the emotional connection that defines the nature of the ongoing relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 In Europe it´s not that uncommon for clubs to hit bankruptcy and go out of business so to say.. In general they tend to restart at some lower level like say Glasgow Rangers or Fiorentina did. But as long as they are allowed to retain their specific license instead of having to apply for a new one history is not wiped out. Even if Fiorentina had to restart as "Viola" until they managed to buy back their old name from the administrators Looking at Heart it´s perhaps a bit funny that issues that really tend to upset people in Europe.. Like the badge, seems less important. I can assure you that on Bluemoon alone there´s not a year without a score of threads lamenting the loss of our old badge that was changed in the mid 90´s. Club names are really not allowed to change in Europe nowadays it seems and it´s a very inflamed issue so just the foolhardy would even try. Colours.. Of course colours are significant and in general changes are disapproved by fans but it happens now and then and fans just tend to buy fewer shirts if the design/colours are unpopular meaning that in due time someone will change it again to make a profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I hope that CFG is culturally sensitive and don't just assume that European attitudes apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 The FRG meeting with Simon Pearce did indicate that they are very aware of the issues.. The rumours on this forum points towards trying to gel the cultures as well. As for what would be a compromise everyone could live with it´s anyones guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'. Except anyone can go to Wikipedia and erase whatever they like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'. Except anyone can go to Wikipedia and erase whatever they like! No, they can't. The revisions will be cancelled not long later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'. Except anyone can go to Wikipedia and erase whatever they like! Erase whatever they like! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Well, a little section on our origins and history can always be added into our Supporters website can't it? People say that "we are the club" don't they? Then let it be so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Well, a little section on our origins and history can always be added into our Supporters website can't it? People say that "we are the club" don't they? Then let it be so. Mate I agree. I'm just being a smartarse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'. Except anyone can go to Wikipedia and erase whatever they like! No, they can't. The revisions will be cancelled not long later. Thank you. Tired of 'anyone can edit Wikipedia' BS, yes technically they can, but in practice that won't last for long at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) The fact is, whatever changes CFG make to our club, when someone in the future Googles Images of Melbourne Heart it will give them results of our red & white or when someone Wikipedias Melbourne City FC, it will show those red & white striped tops in either the 'history' section and/or the Name, Colours and Badge section. No one can wipe out the fact or history that we've played in Red & White stripes for four years or that they were our inaugural colours! And no matter what happens we will always be 'The Heart of Melbourne'.Except anyone can go to Wikipedia and erase whatever they like!No, they can't. The revisions will be cancelled not long later.Thank you. Tired of 'anyone can edit Wikipedia' BS, yes technically they can, but in practice that won't last for long at all. Yeah I've changed victory's to visitors a few times and it never lasts ahah Edited May 25, 2014 by Dylan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXJawsaXx Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 The whole 'Wikipedia is an unreliable source' argument is bs. For one thing when false stuff is put on Wikipedia it is changed back almost instantly, and when stuff is added it is required that the information is referenced and cited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, something's it's up there for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, Why does this not surprise me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, Why does this not surprise me? I'm still waiting for that 10am conference on Thursday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 It's going to be a long week. What will it bring? Hopefully we get something from the club, goin nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, Why does this not surprise me? I'm still waiting for that 10am conference on Thursday It's definitely happening We just don't know which Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, Why does this not surprise me? I'm still waiting for that 10am conference on Thursday It's definitely happening We just don't know which Thursday. Or which day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 I've put stupid shit on Wikipedia plenty of times, Why does this not surprise me? I'm still waiting for that 10am conference on Thursday It's definitely happening We just don't know which time, day, week or month. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Murfy1 Posted May 29, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Melbourne Heart's bid to become sky blue blocked after Sydney FC object May 29 2014 Sebastian Hassett The proposed colour change of Melbourne Heart from red and white stripes to an all-sky blue kit has fallen through after an objection by Sydney FC was upheld by FFA and an independent arbitrator. Heart's proposed change was one of the first points of order for their new owners, English Premier League club Manchester City, who are determined to create a global network of clubs with a similar colour scheme. After the club's Abu Dhabi-based owners bought Manchester City in 2008, they have recently embarked on aggressive expansion, creating New York City from scratch, taking an 80 per cent stake in Heart and, earlier this month, buying 20 per cent of Japanese side Yokohama F. Marinos. However, while it is still expected the club's name will change from Melbourne Heart to Melbourne City in time for next season, they will – for the moment, at least – continue playing their home matches in red and white stripes. "While the introduction of Manchester City into the A-League is a fantastic opportunity, we made the decision having regard to the fact that we are only a 10-team competition with young brands in a highly competitive environment," said FFA head of A-League Damien de Bohun. "Approving the change would have meant two teams with home shirts of an almost identical colour. We will consider any proposals put forward in the interests of achieving the right balance." A grievance hearing took place at FFA headquarters in Sydney last week between Melbourne Heart and FFA, the result of an earlier decision by FFA chief executive David Gallop to reject Heart's request to change colours. Gallop had originally told Heart's representatives that he agreed with Sydney FC's determination to keep the sky blue colour solely aligned with the two-time champions. Sources said the hearing was "very spirited" and that there was a "serious tension developing between Heart and the FFA", with the Heart hiring senior counsel Garry Hatcher to act on their behalf. It is understood Heart's owners believe they are providing the A-League with a significant philanthropic boost and deserve the ultimate say in how they run the club. However, the decision from the independent arbitrator, Shaun McCarthy, was handed down on Tuesday and ruled in favour of the governing body. Sydney FC chairman Scott Barlow said his club felt the right decision was made. "We support the FFA's decision not to approve Melbourne Heart's proposal to wear a sky blue home strip," Barlow said. "We also support the decision handed down yesterday by the independent arbitrator to uphold the FFA's decision. "The A-League is a young competition with only 10 teams and the idea of two teams wearing sky blue and embracing a sky blue identity is not in the interests of the league. This is a very good decision for Sydney FC and the A-League as a whole." However, a statement from Melbourne Heart on Wednesday indicated the matter was not necessarily settled. "The club remains in constructive discussions with the FFA on a range of matters relating to its future plans including its playing strips," it read. "On the matter of colours, as we have said previously, any decisions made in relation to the club's identity will be guided by the traditions of our existing fan base, including their passion for red and white, and the opportunities provided by our new ownership." It is plausible that Heart’s ownership conglomerate could now take the matter to the Supreme Court, although they may risk further alienating their fans, many of whom have argued fervently in favour of keeping the club's existing colour scheme. In other news, Perth Glory have announced the signing of Newcastle Jets captain Ruben Zadkovich on a three-year deal and are soon expected to announce the arrival of Ireland international striker Andy Keogh. Elsewhere, Central Coast Mariners striker Adam Kwasnik has retired after a prolonged battle with injury and will take a community coaching role with the club. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-hearts-bid-to-become-sky-blue-blocked-after-sydney-fc-object-20140529-zrs76.html 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 However, while it is still expected the club's name will change from Melbourne Heart to Melbourne City in time for next season, they will – for the moment, at least – continue playing their home matches in red and white stripes. YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 ILY SFC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 FUCK YES!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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