bazzatron Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Actual TV commercials. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well, there is a bright side, there's only one way to go from bottom place. Not quite BG. We could stay in bottom place...and well might unless someone makes some changes somewhere. yes we could but I think that we aren't too many players off being a good team, as long as we recruit well. We also need to look at different training facilities as that LaTrobe ground has cost us a lot in terms of injuries every season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Â Well, there is a bright side, there's only one way to go from bottom place. Not quite BG. We could stay in bottom place...and well might unless someone makes some changes somewhere. yes we could but I think that we aren't too many players off being a good team, as long as we recruit well. We also need to look at different training facilities as that LaTrobe ground has cost us a lot in terms of injuries every season. Â Players that NEED to go: Colosimo Thompson Hoffman Coyne Fred Meeuwis(still not convinced) Babalj (lazy self entitled twat) Â Thats not just a few players that more than half a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Fuck off Heart (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Babalj will be a different player with a proper pre-season behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Club needs to start fresh; new coach, probably 50% new players, new brand, new logo. A BRAND FUCKING NEW MARKETING STRATEGY THAT DOESNT INVOLVE USING A FREE SOCIAL NETWORK FFS!!!!! The attitude of the club is that its up to the fans to attract new members. Well fuck em. I am sick of devoting so much of my time to a club that does not seem to care about the basics of running a football club. I will still buy membership, I will still come to games but thats about it. Its up to the club now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Deserve the wooden spoon tbh. Â Only thing that will wake this club up. Â Probably the first time in my history of supporting the heart i have thought about not getting a membership next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's was this time last year that everyone was talking about our brand and our football. Now we have gone backwards in all departments. What a fucken rabble this season has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbournehammer Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Well, there is a bright side, there's only one way to go from bottom place. Not quite BG. We could stay in bottom place...and well might unless someone makes some changes somewhere. yes we could but I think that we aren't too many players off being a good team, as long as we recruit well. We also need to look at different training facilities as that LaTrobe ground has cost us a lot in terms of injuries every season. I actually think we are miles off it. Compare our best 11 last season to our best this season. None of the back five would be in it. Mate would be there instead of Williams. Garcia instead of worm. Thompson and Fred both better last season and younger. Babalj or tadic ? I also think shroj was a better defensive midfielder than anyone we've had this season. Basically the 11/12 squad would soundly beat the 12/13. But at the same time the league as a whole has improved, even acknowledging the loss of a lot of talent across the league. I think we're a fair way off to be honest and while it might be bleeding obvious given our league position it needs to be said. How many of our side would crack a run in the mariners first team or even the roars ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) We need a good pair of CBs that can organise the back 4 (like we had with Madaschi), and a creative midfielder who can pass accurately. We need to have at least one of those players who is a good on-field leader who just won't accept the disorganisation, poor passing, traffic cone impersonations in midfield and poor decision making we had this season. Gerhardt should be freed up to play in midfield Edited March 24, 2013 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Losing 2-0 flatters us. It could have easily been 6-0. We were rudderless on the field. What was our captain doing? Hardly sighted. How many other A League teams would he make the starting 11?  Unfortunately we're finishing just where I expected we would before this season started when I looked at the players we lost and the poor recruiting we did. Then we were weakened some more in the January transfer period.  This club is competing with Victory in the Melbourne football market. How many members are we going to lose to Victory which has a quality manager, aims big, and is playing exciting football. Come to think of it, we could even be losing our young players to Victory who will want to develop under Ange Postecoglou. The owners of this club won't be able to balance their books with shit on field performances like this. If you're a sponsor why sponsor Heart when you can sponsor Victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart4Life Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 People who wont buy a membership because of results, you disgust me! If you truly love the club and want it to succeed, you will always follow the club and give $150 for a membership each year. If you don't want to be here though the bad times, you aren't a true supporter. I have been a member since day one and I'll keep buying a membership every year until the day I die. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Club needs to start fresh; new coach, probably 50% new players, new brand, new logo. A BRAND FUCKING NEW MARKETING STRATEGY THAT DOESNT INVOLVE USING A FREE SOCIAL NETWORK FFS!!!!! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandro Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013  If you're a sponsor why sponsor Heart when you can sponsor Victory? Cheaper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 People who wont buy a membership because of results, you disgust me! If you truly love the club and want it to succeed, you will always follow the club and give $150 for a membership each year. If you don't want to be here though the bad times, you aren't a true supporter. I have been a member since day one and I'll keep buying a membership every year until the day I die. This works both ways mate. These aren't just bad times, these are fucking hopeless times. It's got absolutely nothing to do with results.  All i want is a sign of promise. Thats it. I couldn't give a flying fuck if we lost 4 games or 40 games in a row.  Ask yourself this: What do you have to look forward to next game/ next season???  It's defiantly not looking forward to any juniors developing. I'll always be a heart supporter for life but fuck, does nobody at our club care?   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Babalj looked good when he came on. He's one of our best players. So why wasn't he starting? If he stays in the A League for next season I wonder if he'll want to go to Victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 People who wont buy a membership because of results, you disgust me! If you truly love the club and want it to succeed, you will always follow the club and give $150 for a membership each year. If you don't want to be here though the bad times, you aren't a true supporter. I have been a member since day one and I'll keep buying a membership every year until the day I die. It's not that they don't love the club, it's just that people are pissed off with the one-sided relationship of the club not loving the fans by serving up shit. It's just like what's the point of having a girlfriend and loving her if she doesn't give a shit about you? Those people would still be buying memberships if the club was coming 10th, but giving their total and absolute all in every game.   and for what it's worth I will be buying a membership next year, but if the club doesn't start committing, i wont be the following year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013  After complaining after EVERY away game this season about how I wasted my day watching our shit performances and gotten myself pissed off, today was the first game I haven't watched all season and instead have done hours of homework, instead I can now go and watch F1 and enjoy it after getting all my work done. This had been a really disappointing season. Exactly the same as me. Sounds like we were properly awful today. Out of curiosity lads, what were you studying?? Can only be more interesting than the crap we just watched.  I was doing Legal Studies. I put off doing Maths Methods because I hate it but in all honesty I'd rather be locked in a room doing maths than watch another one of our away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 If we lose vs CCM , victory could throw the game vs Wellington and leave us with a wooden spoon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 We need a good pair of CBs that can organise the back 4 (like we had with Madaschi), and a creative midfielder who can pass accurately. We need to have at least one of those players who is a good on-field leader who just won't accept the disorganisation, poor passing, traffic cone impersonations in midfield and poor decision making we had this season. Gerhardt should be freed up to play in midfield Bella, I always follow your entries with great interest and, whilst we don't always agree on some things, I do love your insights in to the game. I only have one question for you. Can you come and manage this rabble please?? You are all over the main problems like a rash and always provide constructive solutions. Step up lad!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I think that we need to look carefully at our pre-season. Every season we have started behind the 8 ball: pre-season injuries (and they ruin the whole season for a player as they are always playing catch up) and poor endurance fitness. The wheelie bin ice baths are not important here, the whole preperation including pre-season matches really needs to move up a gear, flattering wins against VPL and state league teams is not adequate preparation for the HAL season. The focus naturally falls on the coach but I think that this is really the least important factor in our season, any team that has lost the core of the team and had our run of injuries is going to perform below expectations. I do think that one area where JA needs to accept responsibility is in our poor away form, this issue should have been addressed months ago, unfortunately its been the only consistent thing about our season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have been a member since day one Wow. Would you like a medal? If you do you will most likely have to pick it up from the club because they are too cheap to pay to have it posted out to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 The signs were there last year, the problems are the same. Â 1. Â Poor defensive organisation and leadership. Â People blame the current defense but forget the Mr Bean moments when we also with had Hamil, Â Goode Marrone and Bechich and most of all Bolton. Â Sure the current back four is worse, but Madaschi made the previous guys look better than they really were. Â Defenders make good coaches: Popovic has got NTS and Beauchamp ( we had him remember) playing above themselves. Â We need a defensive leader and we need a defending coach. Â 2. Â Zero movement off the ball by the midfielders. Â 3. Â Inability to string 2 passes together. Â 4. Â HEADING: every header goes to the opposition. Â EVERY ONE! Â 5. Tadic is a quality striker who has little support from the midfielders. Â His attitude is better than most others, far better than the Babalj. Â 6. Â Mental fragility. Â Number one on the agenda must be the on field performance. Â Screw "social media", and whatever else falls under the "community engagement" malarky. The club needs a new coach, Aloisi should do the honourable thing and stand down voluntarily. Â And there needs to be a player clean out. Â Won't happen though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Aloisi blaming refs. Â He's incompetent, never heard him talk about actual coaching tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Anyone who complains about how shit we are and that's why they aren't buying a membership - please jump off the West gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart4Life Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have been a member since day one Wow. Would you like a medal? If you do you will most likely have to pick it up from the club because they are too cheap to pay to have it posted out to you. I'm happy to pay $10 for them to post it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 At least now we can finally f-off COLOSIMO, Thomspon, Fred &Â Hoffman. So that's 3 players in the starting 11 that should have never been playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have been a member since day one Wow. Would you like a medal? If you do you will most likely have to pick it up from the club because they are too cheap to pay to have it posted out to you. I'm happy to pay $10 for them to post it to me. Good to know your expectations of a professional football club are so high lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Won't even be able to watch it. Playing in a friendly for my club. Glad this was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Bela always the voice of reason - thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The wheelie bin ice baths are not important here, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The wheelie bin ice baths are not important here,  In reality they are just a receptacle to hold ice water for a player to stand in and recovery from a hard game/training session, but mentally for a player to train their arse off in the aussie summer heat to then be told, "ok, into the bin with you", its probably quite depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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