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2 hours ago, Jimmy said:

What about:

Y= Youth/U23 player

Happy to do that but I'm no longer sure who they are. Are you able to assist?

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5 minutes ago, jw1739 said:

Happy to do that but I'm no longer sure who they are. Are you able to assist?

No idea. But I'd say Arzani, Kuzmanovski and Tongyik would be the three.

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29 minutes ago, Dylan said:

I reckon Chapman is gone in Jan

So then we have room to sign another midfielder

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2016-17 SQUAD TO DATE: 17th January 2017

 

Number           Name                           Contract until

Goalkeepers.
20                    Dean Bouzanis            31/5/20.

1                      Thomas Sorensen (V) 31/5/17.
 
Defenders.
4                      Connor Chapman        31/5/19. Transferred to Incheon United, Korea. (23/01/17).

5                      Ivan Franjic                  31/5/18.

6                      Osama Malik                31/5/18.
2                      Manny Muscat             31/5/18.
21                    Ruon Tongyik               31/5/18.
3                      Josh Rose                    31/5/17.
22                    Michael Jakobsen (V)  31/5/18.


Midfielders.

18                    Paulo Retre                  31/5/18.
10                    Anthony Caceres          31/5/17. On loan from Manchester City, England.
26                    Luke Brattan                 31/5/17. On loan from Manchester City, England.

14                    Daniel Arzani                31/5/18.
27                    Fernando Brandan (V)  31/5/18.

8                      Neil Kilkenny                 31/5/18.

9                      Nicolas Colazo (M,V)    31/5/17. On loan from Boca Juniors, Argentina.
 

Forwards.

28                    Steve Kuzmanovski      31/5/17. Season-ending ACL injury.

7                      Corey Gameiro              31/5/17. Season-ending ACL injury.

23                    Bruno Fornaroli (M,V)    31/5/19.
12                    Nick Fitzgerald               31/5/18.
11                    Bruce Kamau                 31/5/18.
17                    Tim Cahill (FSGM)         31/5/18.

---                    Braedyn Crowley (S)     31/5/18. No longer listed as a senior player (22/01/17).

 

V: Visa player.
M: Marquee player.
FSGM: Full-Season Guest Marquee player.
S: Scholarship Contract.

Number of players listed above: 21.

As at 23rd January 2017.

Edited by jw1739

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Out of that list I doubt we will see those whose contracts are ending staying at the club. Id say that Carceras and Brattan will go overseas, Sorenson will retire and Colazo wont be renewed. 

TBH its probably a good thing that we dont have such a high turn over at the end of the season. We all know its thesquad that was never the problem its the management that they have which is the issue. 

I wouldnt be surprised if the Cap goes next season so we will potentially have 2 visa spots to play with and perhaps a bit of selling and buying in the off season.

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On 1/17/2017 at 8:56 PM, jw1739 said:

OUT OF CONTRACT

 

Goalkeepers.
1                      Thomas Sorensen (V) 31/5/17.
 
Defenders.

3                      Josh Rose                    31/5/17.


Midfielders.
10                    Anthony Caceres          31/5/17. On loan from Manchester City, England.
26                    Luke Brattan                 31/5/17. On loan from Manchester City, England.

9                      Nicolas Colazo (M,V)    31/5/17. On loan from Boca Juniors, Argentina.
 

Forwards.

28                    Steve Kuzmanovski      31/5/17. Season-ending ACL injury.

7                      Corey Gameiro              31/5/17. Season-ending ACL injury.

 

I would not renew any of these players contracts, if I had to choose one, it would be Caceras though.

Players in Contract (That I would want to terminate)

Defenders.

6                      Osama Malik                31/5/18.
2                      Manny Muscat             31/5/18.
22                    Michael Jakobsen (V)  31/5/18.


Midfielders.

18                    Paulo Retre                  31/5/18.
27                    Fernando Brandan (V)  31/5/18. (Injury replacement required otherwise let him go)


Obviously I want us to re-structure our defense, we have the attackers locked in we just need a solid back four and a class #10.  But in reality we all know that next season will be no different to the last, we will not sign any defenders and we will try to play the first 10 games with 3 at the back and fail miserably.

 

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1 hour ago, Dylan said:

Out of that list I doubt we will see those whose contracts are ending staying at the club. Id say that Carceras and Brattan will go overseas, Sorenson will retire and Colazo wont be renewed. 

TBH its probably a good thing that we dont have such a high turn over at the end of the season. We all know its thesquad that was never the problem its the management that they have which is the issue. 

I wouldnt be surprised if the Cap goes next season so we will potentially have 2 visa spots to play with and perhaps a bit of selling and buying in the off season.

The squad is part of the problem!!  Two big problems, we never recruited enough quality central defenders, whilst we are overstocked and unbalanced elsewhere.  Second, several players are either not good enough or have underperformed.  Both of those are fundamental problems with the squad.  Add to that poor tactics and motivation, and you end up with the shambles we've had this year.

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Posted (edited)

Terminating contracts still counts toward your salary cap, so unless another club wants to buy them, we ain't terminating anyone.

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On 02/04/2017 at 8:03 AM, Dylan said:

Out of that list I doubt we will see those whose contracts are ending staying at the club. Id say that Carceras and Brattan will go overseas, Sorenson will retire and Colazo wont be renewed. 

TBH its probably a good thing that we dont have such a high turn over at the end of the season. We all know its thesquad that was never the problem its the management that they have which is the issue. 

I wouldnt be surprised if the Cap goes next season so we will potentially have 2 visa spots to play with and perhaps a bit of selling and buying in the off season.

With you.

personally I've always thought the massive player turnover was a big problem. Having some stability in the squad beats the hell out of swapping these guys for similar quality new players and it's back to square one.

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Posted (edited)

Just getting in early and trying to keep track of squad movements and the make-up of next season's squad. Based on existing contracts, and news to date.

http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-secures-teenage-trio-on-multi-year-deals/kod1okfz3yk91nwtkordf5jtx

2017-18 SQUAD TO DATE: 9th April 2017

Number           Name                           Contract until
Goalkeepers.
20                    Dean Bouzanis            31/5/20.
--                      James Delianov (Y?)   31/5/19    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017

Defenders.
5                      Ivan Franjic                  31/5/18.
6                      Osama Malik                31/5/18.
2                      Manny Muscat             31/5/18.
21                    Ruon Tongyik               31/5/18.
22                    Michael Jakobsen (V)  31/5/18.
--                      Dylan Pieiras (Y?)        31/5/19.    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017
Midfielders.
18                    Paulo Retre                  31/5/18.
14                    Daniel Arzani                31/5/18.
27                    Fernando Brandan (V)  31/5/18.
8                      Neil Kilkenny                 31/5/18.

--                     Denis Genreau (Y?)       31/5/20.   News item Club web-site 30th March 2017 (duration of contract ambiguous)
Forwards.
23                    Bruno Fornaroli (M,V)    31/5/19.
12                    Nick Fitzgerald               31/5/18.
11                    Bruce Kamau                 31/5/18.
17                    Tim Cahill                       31/5/18.

V:  Visa player.
M:  Marquee player.
Y?: Assumed to be one of the 3 youth players allowed outside the cap under the "23+3" provision.

Number of players listed above: 17.
As at 18th April 2017.

Edited by jw1739
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Posted (edited)

JW, I was under the impression that Bouzanis had signed an extension a while ago but then I read this earlier today?

'Inconsistent goalkeeper Dean Bouzanis is also out of contract, with Adelaide United captain Eugene Galekovic a rumoured arrival to take his place. A question mark hangs over Manchester City loanees Luke Brattan and Anthony Caceres, who didn’t start in Sunday’s defeat, while Josh Rose is likely to be moved on.'

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/melbourne-city/tim-cahill-slams-melbourne-city-aleague-finals-performance-against-perth-glory/news-story/1d1ec43cbad9207ffd8df8512736473e

 

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2 minutes ago, Harrison said:

JW, I was under the impression that Bouzanis had signed an extension a while ago but then I read this earlier today?

'Inconsistent goalkeeper Dean Bouzanis is also out of contract, with Adelaide United captain Eugene Galekovic a rumoured arrival to take his place. A question mark hangs over Manchester City loanees Luke Brattan and Anthony Caceres, who didn’t start in Sunday’s defeat, while Josh Rose is likely to be moved on.'

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/melbourne-city/tim-cahill-slams-melbourne-city-aleague-finals-performance-against-perth-glory/news-story/1d1ec43cbad9207ffd8df8512736473e

 

Well, this is the source that says he signed an extension.http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/goalkeeper-dean-bouzanis-re-signs-with-melbourne-city-fc/jhgrzhsm4eqa1ahdffeawqtlo

It's a City announcement. I can't see how he can now be out of contract, unless there were various caveats in the contract that mean he's no longer staying.

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3 hours ago, jw1739 said:

Well, this is the source that says he signed an extension.http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/goalkeeper-dean-bouzanis-re-signs-with-melbourne-city-fc/jhgrzhsm4eqa1ahdffeawqtlo

It's a City announcement. I can't see how he can now be out of contract, unless there were various caveats in the contract that mean he's no longer staying.

There's always a gross misconduct clause...

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On 4/9/2017 at 2:18 PM, jw1739 said:

Just getting in early and trying to keep track of squad movements and the make-up of next season's squad. Based on existing contracts, and news to date.

http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-secures-teenage-trio-on-multi-year-deals/kod1okfz3yk91nwtkordf5jtx

2017-18 SQUAD TO DATE: 9th April 2017

Number           Name                           Contract until
Goalkeepers.
20                    Dean Bouzanis            31/5/20.
--                      James Delianov (Y?)   31/5/19    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017

Defenders.
5                      Ivan Franjic                  31/5/18.
6                      Osama Malik                31/5/18.
2                      Manny Muscat             31/5/18.
21                    Ruon Tongyik               31/5/18.
22                    Michael Jakobsen (V)  31/5/18.
--                      Dylan Pieiras (Y?)        31/5/19.    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017
Midfielders.
18                    Paulo Retre                  31/5/18.
14                    Daniel Arzani                31/5/18.
27                    Fernando Brandan (V)  31/5/18.
8                      Neil Kilkenny                 31/5/18.

--                     Denis Genreau (Y?)       31/5/20.   News item Club web-site 30th March 2017 (duration of contract ambiguous)
Forwards.
23                    Bruno Fornaroli (M,V)    31/5/19.
12                    Nick Fitzgerald               31/5/18.
11                    Bruce Kamau                 31/5/18.
17                    Tim Cahill                       31/5/18.

V:  Visa player.
M:  Marquee player.
Y?: Assumed to be one of the 3 youth players allowed outside the cap under the "23+3" provision.

Number of players listed above: 17.
As at 18th April 2017.

Departures of Josh Rose, Steve Kuzmanovski, Corey Gameiro and Nicolas Colazo confirmed 1st May 2017.

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So apart from Brattan and Caceras all the contracted players that contracts expired this past season have not been renewed. 

Now the big question I have is that is the new manager building next seasons team or will it be built and he will then be brought in afterwards. 

Very interesting and frustrating period ahead.

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37 minutes ago, Jovan said:

So apart from Brattan and Caceras all the contracted players that contracts expired this past season have not been renewed. 

Now the big question I have is that is the new manager building next seasons team or will it be built and he will then be brought in afterwards. 

Very interesting and frustrating period ahead.

I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already made a decision on the new manager and spoken to him about potential recruitment for next season.

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6 minutes ago, Embee said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they'd already made a decision on the new manager and spoken to him about potential recruitment for next season.

Logic says obviously but you never know. For me the next contract announcement has to be the manager. 

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4 minutes ago, Jovan said:

Logic says obviously but you never know. For me the next contract announcement has to be the manager. 

From a PR standpoint yes, it wouldn't be the best look to announce any signings until they've publicly disclosed the new manager you'd think.

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Just now, Embee said:

From a PR standpoint yes, it wouldn't be the best look to announce any signings until they've publicly disclosed the new manager you'd think.

Totally. 

 

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1 hour ago, Embee said:

From a PR standpoint yes, it wouldn't be the best look to announce any signings until they've publicly disclosed the new manager you'd think.

Completely agree. IMO PR is more important for this club than it is for any of the others. When we were bought by Manchester City, the bar was raised for us. The expectation of the fans, the media and the Melbourne public is that we will be up there challenging for every trophy every season. The irony of this season is that we won the NYL, the W-League, and the FFA Cup, yet we're seen as having failed. If we'd had a mid-season slump but then recovered and finished a comfortable third we would have probably escaped much of the criticism. The problem was that we failed miserably at the end of the season, and the club has lost credibility as a result.

So yes, PR absolutely critical from now on as the club seeks to rebuild credibility.

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Posted (edited)

2017-18 SQUAD TO DATE: 16th June 2017

Number           Name                           Contract until
Goalkeepers.
20                    Dean Bouzanis            31/5/20.
--                      James Delianov (Y?)   31/5/19    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017
--                      Eugene Galekovic        31/5/19   News item Club web-site 16th June 2017

Defenders.
5                      Ivan Franjic                  31/5/18.
6                      Osama Malik                31/5/18.
2                      Manny Muscat             31/5/18.
21                    Ruon Tongyik               31/5/18.
22                    Michael Jakobsen (V)  31/5/18.
--                      Dylan Pieiras (Y?)        31/5/19.    News item Club web-site 30th March 2017
Midfielders.
18                    Paulo Retre                  31/5/18.     Contract terminated by mutual consent. News item Club web-site 16th June 2017.
14                    Daniel Arzani                31/5/18.
27                    Fernando Brandan (V)  31/5/18.
8                      Neil Kilkenny                 31/5/18.

--                     Denis Genreau (Y?)       31/5/20.   News item Club web-site 30th March 2017 (duration of contract ambiguous)
Forwards.
23                    Bruno Fornaroli (M,V)    31/5/19.
12                    Nick Fitzgerald               31/5/18.
11                    Bruce Kamau                 31/5/18.
17                    Tim Cahill                       31/5/18.
--                      Anthony Caceres           31/5/18   On loan from Manchester City. News item Club web-site 16th June 2017.

V:  Visa player.
M:  Marquee player.
Y?: Assumed to be one of the 3 youth players allowed outside the cap under the "23+3" provision.

As at 16th June 2017.

Edited by jw1739

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So how much space do we have left for players, including visas, marquees and FSGM?

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19 minutes ago, mjake1234 said:

So how much space do we have left for players, including visas, marquees and FSGM?

TBH, I don't know precisely, mainly because I don't know the real status of Delianov, Genreau and Pierias. Also, AFAIK there is no Full Season Guest Marquee place any more - it was for season 2016/17 only. However, the 14-match Guest Player option remains.

There are 18 players named above as contracted for 2017/18. There are 23+3 places available in total, including a maximum of 5 visa players and two marquees.
So we have 8 places available overall.
We have 3 visa players listed - therefore room for 2 more.
We have 1 marquee player listed - therefore room for 1 more.

So my best estimate is that we have room for 8 further players, including 2 visa players and 1 marquee player, plus the 14-match guest player if we wanted to use that option.

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So basically 3 quality players. 2 Visa and 1 Marquee. 

Get those right we have a very very strong squad. 

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Does anybody see any unfamiliar faces in this pic?

Who are the 2 lads on Bouzanis's right?

 

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14 hours ago, Chris p said:

John roberts and i think Braedyn Crowley?

Brattan was also in some training photos so I assume he's re-signed

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