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On 15/07/2016 at 9:41 PM, Jozzy said:

How I'd line us up:


Thomas Sorenson
Ivan Franjic - Connor Chapman - ????????? - ?????????
Luke Brattan - Anthony Caceres 
Bruce Kamau - Tim Cahill - ?????????
Bruno Fornaroli 

- If we're serious about going for the title we need to

First person to say the squad isnt good enough if we dont win silverware this season needs to be permanently banned

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17 hours ago, Heart of oakleigh said:

Now that cahill will be joining whats the situation with formation? Do u guys think we will be playing 3 at the back with wingbacks or 4-4-2

I'd say we're edging closer to the JvS preferred formation - 9 midfielders with just a solitary striker up front and a goalkeeper at the back. Otherwise we're going to have some of the most expensive players in the A-League on the bench each week.

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“Last season Bruno demonstrated his ability, making a significant contribution to the team and playing in an entertaining and determined way. He not only scored a record number of goals, but he provided an important link between attack and midfield.” JvS

Thomas Sorenson


Franjic - Chapman - Malik – Muscat


Brattan/Killkeny


Kamau - Caceres Brandan

Fornaroli

Cahill

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9 minutes ago, Deeming said:

Thomas Sorenson

 


Franjic - Chapman - Malik – Muscat

 


Brattan/Killkeny

 


Kamau - Caceres Brandan
 

 

Fornaroli

 

Cahill

 

Probably the case at present but let's wait and see who this marquee and last visa are. Exciting times.

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12 minutes ago, Deeming said:

Thomas Sorenson

 


Franjic - Chapman - Malik – Muscat

 


Brattan/Killkeny

 


Kamau - Caceres Brandan
 

 

Fornaroli

 

Cahill

 

Looking good but surely both Brattan and Kilkenny start....

Caceres looks the shaky one there...

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1 minute ago, rass said:

Looking good but surely both Brattan and Kilkenny start....

Caceres looks the shaky one there...

How good is it that we're struggling to work out which 'good' players to start rather than which player is less bad

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With Cahill the first name on the team sheet very week, i hope this season doesn't turn out like ADP's time at SFC.

How JVS will fit both Bruno and Cahill in to a cohesive unit remains to be seen.  We don't have the defense to play with two strikers, and Cahill is no midfielder. He never was able to resolve the Mooy-Koren AM role either.

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5 minutes ago, Kiro Kompiro said:

With Cahill the first name on the team sheet very week, i hope this season doesn't turn out like ADP's time at SFC.

How JVS will fit both Bruno and Cahill in to a cohesive unit remains to be seen.  We don't have the defense to play with two strikers, and Cahill is no midfielder. He never was able to resolve the Mooy-Koren AM role either.

Cahill made his fortunes as a midfielder...

Not saying I think he'll play there for us, but thats absolutely incorrect.

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Just now, bt50 said:

Cahill made his fortunes as a midfielder...

Not saying I think he'll play there for us, but thats absolutely incorrect.

He is NOT a midfielder, even if he's listed on the team sheet as one. 

As a midfielder, his touch, passing, tackling, dribbling and creativity is decidedly average

He is not a striker either

 Cahill made his fortune being the best header of a ball of his generation and uncanny ability to be at the right place at the right time to score.

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4 minutes ago, Kiro Kompiro said:

He is NOT a midfielder, even if he's listed on the team sheet as one. 

As a midfielder, his touch, passing, tackling, dribbling and creativity is decidedly average

He is not a striker either

 Cahill made his fortune being the best header of a ball of his generation and uncanny ability to be at the right place at the right time to score.

Geez if being good at just one skill is the pre-requisite to being a pro, I've no idea how this bloke never made it...

https://youtu.be/RqmA1hntcpg

 

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Personally would rather Chapman over Malik at centre back. Malik at centre back is garunteed to make poor mistakes. Chapman a short falls might be aerially but he's pretty sound with the ball on the deck and rarely makes poor mistakes. 

If our defence is Muscat, Chapman, Malik, Clisby we're fucked. Totally fucked. We'll have to score at least 2 maybe even 3 goals on average to win many of our games. 

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On 8/8/2016 at 4:44 PM, bt50 said:

Geez if being good at just one skill is the pre-requisite to being a pro, I've no idea how this bloke never made it...

https://youtu.be/RqmA1hntcpg

 

Yeah, because a fat kid striking a dead ball is EXACTLY like Tim Cahill...

23 hours ago, mulhollanddrive said:

I could live with the following squad:

Sorensen

Franjic Malik (Marquee CB) Muscat

Brandan Brattan Kilkenny Caceres

Cahill Fornaroli

Bench: Bouzanic Chapman Fitzgerald Kamau Gameiro

Who's Bouzanic?

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1 hour ago, Kiro Kompiro said:

Who's Bouzanic?

Converted from Greek to Serbian so he can hang out with the Melbourne City hools in bay 17, because that's the closest he will get to playing in goals at AAMI Park.

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1 minute ago, Tesla said:

Converted from Greek to Serbian so he can hang out with the Melbourne City hools in bay 17, because that's the closest he will get to playing in goals at AAMI Park.

Didn't he use to play for liverpool or something lol? How did that ever happen?

Every time i've ever watched him hes been shiteful

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Just now, kingofhearts said:

Didn't he use to play for liverpool or something lol? How did that ever happen?

Every time i've ever watched him hes been shiteful

No, he didn't play for them. In fact, he has barely played for anyone.

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How will Melbourne City use Tim Cahill?

 

By Michael Huguenin

16/08/2016

 

ANALYSIS | If John van 't Schip can fit Cahill alongside marquee striker Bruno Fornaroli, Melbourne City will be serious contenders for the A-League title

 

Melbourne City coach John van 't Schip is convinced Tim Cahill can adapt to his team's style but it remains to be seen how the Socceroos forward will slot into the A-League's most attacking side.

With record-breaking striker Bruno Fornaroli notching 25 goals last season, City scored 66 in 2015-16 before being eliminated by eventual champions Adelaide United in the semi-finals.

Fornaroli was a revelation up front for City with now-departed Socceroos midfielder Aaron Mooy (11 goals) pulling the strings behind him, while Harry Novillo (10) provided support from wide areas.

But Cahill's preference for playing as a centre forward in the latter years of his career and Van 't Schip's general unwillingness to play two strikers could force Fornaroli into a less familiar position.

Speaking at Cahill's unveiling on Monday, Van 't Schip insisted City won't need to overhaul their style to accommodate the 36-year-old striker.

"When we get a player in like Tim, we have to use to try and see and use his qualities but it doesn't mean we have to change everything because of one player," Van 't Schip said.

"Tim can fit into that system very well.

"That's why we got him in and we'll have the time and we'll need the time to see how we can work that out in the best possible way."

Both Van 't Schip and Cahill emphasised the amount of work the latter will need to do when defending, with the Socceroos forward declaring he is used to pressing high from playing under Ange Postecoglou.

"I've watched a lot of video. I've had to learn the way that they play," Cahill said.

On Monday, City played a scratch match at training with both sides lining up in 4-3-3 formations.

Fornaroli was up front for the first team, while Cahill played on the other side as the centre forward.

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Josh Rose and Manny Muscat were the first team's full-backs alongside Osama Malik and Connor Chapman, with Luke Brattan, Neil Kilkenny and Anthony Caceres in midfield.

Fornaroli was flanked by Nick Fitzgerald and Bruce Kamau.

If 4-3-3 is to remain Van 't Schip's preferred formation, Fornaroli will have to play out wide as Cahill can't really play anywhere other than through the middle.

While Fornaroli has insisted he can play in different positions, the 28-year-old has never scored as many goals as he did as City's main marksman last term.

Argentine winger Fernando Brandan, who played in behind Cahill for the second team on Monday, is likely to be a starter by the time the A-League begins in October.

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To get Fornaroli into a central position, City could tweak their formation to a 4-2-3-1, which could also see the Uruguayan replace the creativity lost with the departure of Mooy.

Corey Gameiro - if fit - or Kamau could slot in as a winger, with Brattan and Kilkenny shielding City's back four.

But such a formation could see a split between City's defensive midfielders and front four, as Cahill, Fornaroli and Brandan are unlikely to drop too deep.

To make a 4-2-3-1 work, a more industrious winger such as Fitzgerald could provide balance by dropping into midfield when City don't have the ball.

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Another option for Van 't Schip would be to play both Cahill and Fornaroli as strikers in a 4-4-2 with a diamond midfield.

Brandan might have to be benched for this formation with Caceres perhaps more suited to a classic number 10 role, while Fitzgerald's energy would be critical.

City also used a back three on a number of occasions last term but with their lack of central defenders at this point of the pre-season, it's hard to see Van 't Schip going down that road again in 2016-17.

If the Dutch coach can find a way to get the best out of Fornaroli and Cahill, City could be hard to stop this season but it won't be easy with two players suited to the same position.

 

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2016/08/16/26568672/how-will-melbourne-city-use-tim-cahill?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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