jw1739 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 @MelbourneHeart has tweeted that Curtis is still training with us (Heart) and nothing has been agreed (with Newcastle United). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 .... maybe he is staying after all ..... "...Curtis Good‘s potential switch to Newcastle United looks to have hit a snag, with the youngster still in Melbourne for reasons unknown..." http://mhfcindex.com/transfer-wrap-up-july-19/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARKMILES Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 .... maybe he is staying after all ..... "...Curtis Good‘s potential switch to Newcastle United looks to have hit a snag, with the youngster still in Melbourne for reasons unknown..." http://mhfcindex.com...rap-up-july-19/ Trouble getting a UK Visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Trouble getting a UK Visa. interesting as these things dont always work out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 http://thespectatorsview.com/2012/07/01/newcastle-united-on-verge-of-signing-curtis-good/ Here is a slightly older article that details Newcastle's thoughts on Good .... interesting that he was scouted by someone referred to as one of the world's leading scouts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Trouble getting a UK Visa. This cant be the case, because even I could have told you there is 0 chance of him getting a visa. He surely has an EU passport if the transfer has progressed this far, or they have been planning to loan him out to Belgium or similar once they sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 do we know when the European transfer season ends? could we expect a transfer request once the a-league season commences; ie, whether Newcastle are still interested? to be honest part of me wants Good to stay. I hope we can arrange a deal similar to amini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 If this deal falls through I'd hope the club intend to offer Curtis a new contract and increase his wage pretty substantially if he's on the minumun wage as has been suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) do we know when the European transfer season ends? could we expect a transfer request once the a-league season commences; ie, whether Newcastle are still interested? to be honest part of me wants Good to stay. I hope we can arrange a deal similar to amini. Ok that is it! I just want to go on the fucken record and say that I why the fuck did Dortmund have to do this loan back deal with Amini??? All it means is that for the next 70 years whenever one of our players is signed by a Euro club, no matter who the player is or who the club is we are going to have hear over and over again on here about the possibility of a:"Amini Deal". 90% of the time there will be no fucken "Amini Deal"! :angry: Edited July 19, 2012 by cadete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hopefully we get him back on loan for the season like CCM did with Amini. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 If we were to get a hefty transfer fee and a loan deal for Curtis, it would obviously boost our coffers as well as leave us with more depth for this season. Perhaps if we can do this, other clubs when negotiating with overseas clubs would then try and strike up a "Good deal" (sorry Cadete, couldn't help myself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 There is nothing wrong with a loan back deal. I understand barca just paid around 70 million dollars and will loan back the player to his Brazilian club. The loan back give club 'a' first right to the player while his transfer value is lower. that player can then continue to develop in an environment that is comfortable to club 'a' and the player. once the player develops they will return to club 'a' in a more 'mature' state. This is how many clubs in europe are operating, particularly with younger players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 There is nothing wrong with a loan back deal. I understand barca just paid around 70 million dollars and will loan back the player to his Brazilian club. The loan back give club 'a' first right to the player while his transfer value is lower. that player can then continue to develop in an environment that is comfortable to club 'a' and the player. once the player develops they will return to club 'a' in a more 'mature' state. This is how many clubs in europe are operating, particularly with younger players. FFS seriously the only thing that our club does well is attracting Flogs for Fans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) FFS seriously the only thing that our club does well is attracting Flogs for Fans... I appreciate that you may not agree with some points, but please it is starting to get a little offensive to be name calling people who don't agree with yours. I have been more than supportive on a large number of your arguments, but now I think your crossing the line. If you don't agree with loaning players back to their club that's fine. Offer your reasons why. But don't call me (and many others) flogs etc because they disagree with your views. If the forum isn't going to be run with a clear intention to respect others opinions, then resorting to name calling will undermine the forum in its entirety. We should encourage people to join and post. We should not make people feel intimidated that their opinions may be ridiculed as a result. It's sad reading the same people post messages. We need varying opinions to make this forum successful. I can understand that the long off season may have contributed to this. Some of my posts may be attributed to the slow news days. But I never attack people on a personal level. I have been no angle (granted), and some of my posts may have attacked the club on points that may offend some forum members. But If personal attacks continues to cross this line their may be no point in accessing this forum. The red and white unite site was more than informative prior to this merger. Edited July 20, 2012 by markn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I appreciate that you may not agree with some points, but please it is starting to get a little offensive to be name calling people who don't agree with yours. I have been more than supportive on a large number of your arguments, but now I think your crossing the line. If you don't agree with loaning players back to their club that's fine. Offer your reasons why. But don't call me (and many others) flogs etc because they disagree with your views. If the forum isn't going to be run with a clear intention to respect others opinions, then resorting to name calling will undermine the forum in its entirety. We should encourage people to join and post. We should not make people feel intimidated that their opinions may be ridiculed as a result. It's sad reading the same people post messages. We need varying opinions to make this forum successful. I can understand that the long off season may have contributed to this. Some of my posts may be attributed to the slow news days. But I never attack people on a personal level. I have been no angle (granted), and some of my posts may have attacked the club on points that may offend some forum members. But If personal attacks continues to cross this line their may be no point in accessing this forum. The red and white unite site was more than informative prior to this merger. Your right mate, I'm sorry and I apologise... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Markn, you cop hate because 80% your posts are retarded. I feel like you completely missed cadete's point and he cbf arguing with you so he let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Markn, you cop hate because 80% your posts are retarded. I feel like you completely missed cadete's point and he cbf arguing with you so he let it go. Kinda looks like you missed his point mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Kinda looks like you missed his point mate. Indeed. Attacking and name calling is not on, regardless of your opinion of who you are talking to. We are better than that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 k1cK3D iN DA cH3sT!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Indeed. Attacking and name calling is not on, regardless of your opinion of who you are talking to. We are better than that. i'm not. cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) i'm not. cunt See ya Friday and we can discuss it then... cunt Edited July 21, 2012 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) Some updates on Good: - On twitter NUFCfans.co.uk @nufcfans wrote "Move hit a snag - I'm chasing an update on it. Think talks are ongoing. Will get more" in response to "Have #nufc dwcudwd to sign young aussie defender curtis good,i haven' t seen anything about it lately" @luketansley52 Move hit a snag - I'm chasing an update on it. Think talks are ongoing. Will get more. @AussieMags— NUFCfans.co.uk (@nufcfans) July 20, 2012 Although two fan websites believe the transfer will eventuate: - "We also expect Newcastle to sign Melbourne Heart defender Curtis Good shortly, and the 19 year-old Australian will initially be part of the Development squad" Date : July 20th 2012 http://www.nufcblog....tional-striker/ - "Graham Carr has said to have been watching 19-year-old Koura for some time now, along with Australian Curtis Good who is expected to sign for the club in the near future. Both players would join Newcastle's ever improving Development squad." Date : July 20th 2012 http://nufcnewsnow.blogspot.com.au/ Edited July 21, 2012 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 My dead horse tells me that he has signed a 6 year contract, which I find crazy but who am I to argue? Just waiting on his VISA before shipping off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Just waiting on his VISA before shipping off. I think by visa you mean EU passport, otherwise Good isnt playing in England next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think by visa you mean EU passport, otherwise Good isnt playing in England next season. I actually meant MasterCard... But seriously, I have no idea, just relaying what I've been told, im sure EU passport is the correct term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think by visa you mean EU passport, otherwise Good isnt playing in England next season. Not true? You don't need an EU passport to work and live in Europe rofl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Not true? You don't need an EU passport to work and live in Europe rofl. Thats not my point, my point is Good wouldnt get a visa to play football in England, so he needs an EU passport. Edited July 23, 2012 by Tesla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 All by the confirmed from the club, now. “Under tutelage of our coaching staff, we are confident David will be provided with every chance to fulfil his potential and follow in the footsteps of Brendan Hamill and Curtis Good.” Vrankovic becomes the 18th member of the Heart roster for next season, as Aloisi continues to lay the foundation for his debut campaign as Head Coach. They say Vrankovic can follow in the footsteps of Hamill/Good (heading abroad) and that he becomes the 18th player, which would have been 19 if they included Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Thats not my point, my point is Good wouldnt get a visa to play football in England, so he needs an EU passport. Gets a work permit???? You can't just get an EU passport without being born in a member state or having parents holding one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Gets a work permit???? You can't just get an EU passport without being born in a member state or having parents holding one. Cant some ppl get them due to their grandparents birth, as I am pretty sure that is how a close mate of mine got his... Mind you the rules may have changed, his been over there for years and years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not too sure, never had to go through it, have dual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Cant some ppl get them due to their grandparents birth, as I am pretty sure that is how a close mate of mine got his... Mind you the rules may have changed, his been over there for years and years now. you certainly used to be able to with english and irish passports, though i think the rules may have changed though i'm fairly uncertain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Cant some ppl get them due to their grandparents birth, as I am pretty sure that is how a close mate of mine got his... yes they can. i can get an italian one since my parents can. its in the same way that once you marry someone you could get a passport if they had one of a foreign country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 yes they can. i can get an italian one since my parents can. its in the same way that once you marry someone you could get a passport if they had one of a foreign country. It differs a lot from country to country, so what applies in Italy doesnt necessarily apply in England. Half of Argentina can get Italian citizenship lawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not too sure, never had to go through it, have dual. Interested to find out how you worked this. I attempted to gain a Dutch passport in 2006 due to both my grandparents on my fathers side being Dutch expats. Was told my father did not hold Dutch citizenship contrary to what he had thought and that no new dual citizenship requests were being taken as there was an incoming change in law that forbid dual citizenship with a Dutch passport. Is the law different if you are going the other way? Ie leaving holland rather than attempting to gain entry? Or did you receive dual citizenship before 06? Genuinely interested as I was unable to seriously pursue playing cricket for the Netherlands because of this. I remember something similar with Serg Van Dyk wanting to play for Indonesia as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Eligibility varies from country to country, so if you are thinking of trying to obtain an EU passport then you need to look at the rules that apply to your particular circumstances. It is unwise to generalize or to assume that what applied to someone else will apply to your particular circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Gone. MELBOURNE Heart prodigy Curtis Good has completed the final hurdle of his move to English Premier League side Newcastle United after having his work permit approved. http://au.fourfourtw...rt-to-toon.aspx Edited July 25, 2012 by Hammerhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Brillant! Good for Good, good for Newcastle, good for the A-League, good for the Socceroos and most of all, brillantly good for the reputation of Melbourne Heart ... now Curtis better deliver for his new club... actually, on reflection, I am strugling to think of a better or bigger transfer out of the A-league in its entire history.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Eligibility varies from country to country, so if you are thinking of trying to obtain an EU passport then you need to look at the rules that apply to your particular circumstances. It is unwise to generalize or to assume that what applied to someone else will apply to your particular circumstances. I follow what your saying but I am talking about the same country. Was wondering what the conditions were that allowed dutchpride to gain dual citizenship. Back on topic great news for Curtis that this seems to all be going through for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Interested to find out how you worked this. I attempted to gain a Dutch passport in 2006 due to both my grandparents on my fathers side being Dutch expats. Was told my father did not hold Dutch citizenship contrary to what he had thought and that no new dual citizenship requests were being taken as there was an incoming change in law that forbid dual citizenship with a Dutch passport. Is the law different if you are going the other way? Ie leaving holland rather than attempting to gain entry? Or did you receive dual citizenship before 06? Genuinely interested as I was unable to seriously pursue playing cricket for the Netherlands because of this. I remember something similar with Serg Van Dyk wanting to play for Indonesia as well. My whole family is from Holland, I was born in America whilst my parents were on holiday, I lived in Holland until i was 3 & a half and this is when I moved to Australia, after 2002 or 3' I would have lost my dutch passport because I hadn't lived there for 5 years but I was allowed to keep it because obviously it was before 2002 I moved here. I also could have chosen to take American passport has my dual, because I was born there to dutch parents. Edited July 25, 2012 by DutchPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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