toogood18 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 This is a really good step IMO, as there are rumours coming out of Sydney that Millicic will become the coach, please take him I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Fuck GCU: There was never going to be any proper supporter scene there so IMO this is a win for myself personally and the league. Also gives us a third Away Trip we can drive too... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Thumbs up from me, I like the idea of easier too get to away trips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 This is the best news for a proper Active Supporter scene in Australia since we were created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 except it means no more away trips to the gold coast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 TBH I have never been interested in going to the GC, the thing I most look for in Away Trips is the Home opponent's supporter culture and GCU had none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Until I die Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 i did gcu away, so much fun 1) great city to holiday in 2) away bay is in corner with massive echo/good sound projection which helps to: 3) sound louder than the beach. But is really a once off thing. I said a lot more in the future of gold coast united thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 theres only 4 teams in new south, theres only 4 teams in new south, 4 teams in new south wallleesssss... Fuck NSW. thumbs up for away trips though lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dconder13 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 new away trip, yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "Football Federation Australia has today confirmed that deliberations about the establishment of a new Community Club representing Western Sydney in the Hyundai A-League have advanced significantly in the past few days. FFA will issue a statement at 2.15pm today in relation to the latest developments. Until such time, FFA will make no comment on today’s media coverage on the topic." from football 'stralia' website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ju-liar is involed so its def happening... Funny reading the shit hitting the fan on sfcu.com.au. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Rather thy kept Gold Coast instead of destroying a club again. But West Sydney was always going to happen. Smart move by FFA funding it all themselves, as this is actually a club that could be profitable in the medium term. I really dont know how a West Sydney team could end badly, but if someone will find a way to fuck it up it will be the FFA. Rather they kept NQF over GCU ffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 GCU offered the league nothing but a Cheap Away Trip sparkling in Ripper Glitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 NQF was actually worth it in the long term, awesome (best) youth development & involvement per capita, with a genuine like for the sport up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Still think GWS will improve the league more than NQF... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Completely agree cadete. I think this is going to be massive if executed properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 West Sydney Away... Jesus, fucking, christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Completely agree cadete. I think this is going to be massive if executed properly. Can't skip a step thought, NQF was hard to fuck up in terms of initial execution, but now WS has AFL and NRL to compete with, it makes it that much harder, but yes IF done properly, it will be successful for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 We need to stop looking over our shoulder at what the AFL and NRL are doing; if we do that it means we're not looking where we're going. Almost none of the people coming to Australia these days have any interest in or connections to either AFL or NRL. There's never been a better opportunity for our sport to grow than now. Even here in Melbourne, where we are subjected to a relentless 24/7 barrage of AFL rubbish, the closest most of the population get to a match is their weekly footy tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Live announcement: http://media.foxsports.com.au/fatwire/live/flintliveplayer/live-stream-new.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) but now WS has AFL and NRL to compete with If football cant compete with AFL in West Sydney, then there are serious fucking problems. Edited April 4, 2012 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) If football cant compete with AFL in West Sydney, then there are serious fucking problems. Not that it can't compete, it's about the initial reach out & execution, can the FFA compete with the AFL when it comes to that? Edited April 4, 2012 by DutchPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Not that it can't compete, it's about the initial reach out & execution, can the FFA compete with the AFL when it comes to that? The AFL can have the best club set up in the world and reach out to as many Westies as they want it still does not mean people are actually going to give a shit about a game that they think is like watching seagulls fight over a chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Personally, watching seagulls fight over a chip is pretty funny. Announcement was fairly meh tbh. I wonder how long they will keep the stream up for? Might be able to watch foxsports all arvo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Personally, watching seagulls fight over a chip is pretty funny. Announcement was fairly meh tbh. I wonder how long they will keep the stream up for? Might be able to watch foxsports all arvo. Personally, I love a good seagull chip fight. And I dont mind a bit of AFL either. But anyway. Back on topic. I honestly dont know how I feel about all this. My head tells me that it is great and a huge leap forward, better TV deal, etc. but my guts are telling me something else. I am pretty nervous, because if this venture does not work it will have massive repercussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Oh and Buckley saying they are looking at community ownership? After what happened at NQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomby Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I wonder how long they will keep the stream up for? Might be able to watch foxsports all arvo. Already down for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 The A-League does need to compete with AFL or NRL, people can follow both sports as their seasons barely clash. Just look at Yarraside and you can see many people who support AFL insanely, and I know it’s the case with the Northern Terrace as well. As for AFL not having appeal to new ppl coming to this country, I reckon this is pretty much a wrong statement as the ability AFL has at converting once foreigners into supporters from what I have seen is pretty powerful. One major factor being AFL’s ability to not only attract female fans but create passionate female fans – lets face it no other sport including Football comes close to having this ability with the fairer sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Oh and Buckley saying they are looking at community ownership? After what happened at NQ? Ownership or engagement? The mistake the FFA made with NQF was that they did not give NQF enough time to get the community ownership going. They had already vetoed a takeover of NQF by Singaporean interests. IMO they've learned from those mistakes. Brisbane is now owned by Indonesian interests. This move in Sydney is what the game needs. Have faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ownership or engagement? The mistake the FFA made with NQF was that they did not give NQF enough time to get the community ownership going. They had already vetoed a takeover of NQF by Singaporean interests. IMO they've learned from those mistakes. Brisbane is now owned by Indonesian interests. This move in Sydney is what the game needs. Have faith. Pretty sure he said community ownership. I agree that he didnt give the NQF community ownership enough time (I dont think they realistically gave it a chance at all), which is why I found it a bit of a slap in the face. Yes, it is exactly what the game needs but I worry that this is a roll of the dice by the FFA which could easily come up snake eyes if they are not smart about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "From day one of its existence the new club will have a core focus on community engagement. The community will have a say in the culture, colours, name and logo of the new entity and we will explore a model that would allow for community ownership" http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/buckley-opinion-display/Hyundai-ALeague-coming-to-footballs-heartland/46703 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Great news for the league and the FFA will move hell and earth to get it to work ... otherwise it will be a worse failure than the World Cup bid. I wouldnt be suprised if Harry Kewel is poached from Victory to give the new club its profile. Maybe GCU could be kept around as a Youth League club. They seem to be very successful in this regard. They could move to a smaller stadium, so their handful of diehard supporters would be able to generate some atmosphere and still have a club to follow, and they could continue to be a good feeder resource for players for the rest of the league. Then, in a few years, they may grow enough in support to get back into the senior level comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Great news for the league and the FFA will move hell and earth to get it to work ... otherwise it will be a worse failure than the World Cup bid. I wouldnt be suprised if Harry Kewel is poached from Victory to give the new club its profile. Maybe GCU could be kept around as a Youth League club. They seem to be very successful in this regard. They could move to a smaller stadium, so their handful of diehard supporters would be able to generate some atmosphere and still have a club to follow, and they could continue to be a good feeder resource for players for the rest of the league. Then, in a few years, they may grow enough in support to get back into the senior level comp. The GCU NYL Youth idea is not a bad one, North Sydney Bears do this with Melbourne Storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Neill to be their first signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 In b4 Harry Kewell moves to West Syd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfly100 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Neill to be their first signing. IL be there first signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 The GCU NYL Youth idea is not a bad one, North Sydney Bears do this with Melbourne Storm. North Sydney Bears actually have a history and culture, whereas cold toast, well nothing. In regards to the expansion into Western Sydney, it's rushed and I'm worried. Canberra would've been the ideal solution: a) They've got the stadium W-League team c) The AIS can be manufactured as the youth team d) Next to no competition. e) The consortium have been floating around for 4 or so years. 2 of the 3 expansion teams have so far been destroyed, hopefully we can get this fucking right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) All i can say about this is that the FFA are simply out of there fucking minds. They are now just making teams just for the sake of making teams. Instead of going into damage control after the loss of Gold coast they decide to make another team. Why not wait until the other 9 teams in the competition are stable before expanding. Simply seems like a rushed decision to me. The a-league at the moment seems to be following the NBL team model: Make as many teams as possible even though you don't have the money to back them up. Edited April 4, 2012 by kingofhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I cannot see that great a Active Supporter culture coming out of Canberra as one that could come out of West Sydney so I much prefer WS to come into the League. That is all I care about when opposition club's are discussed, not which place has more supporters and which is better for the league etc... Atm only three sides in this League have passable Active scenes which really is pathetic so it would be great to have a fourth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I cannot see that great a Active Supporter culture coming out of Canberra as one that could come out of West Sydney so I much prefer WS to come into the League. Atm only three sides in this League have passable Active scenes which really is pathetic so it would be great to have a fourth. That really isn't a key criteria, and doesn't justify rushing in the western sydney franchise over the Canberra bid in the slightest. If you really do think that's the most important criterion behind expansion, god bless you mate. That is all I care about when opposition club's are discussed, not which place has more supporters and which is better for the league etc... lul what? Do you want the whole league to fold? Edited April 4, 2012 by Hendo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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