Paulo Retre

[jw1739]

IMO Retre is the perfect example of why transfer fees should be allowed between A-League clubs. At the very minimum, Sydney should be required to pay what remains on Retre's contract l.e. next season's wage, and City should be entitled to ask for a further fee so that the transfer can go through. And what City receive as the transfer fee should be added to our salary cap figure for next season.

As it is, there is little incentive for clubs to spend several years developing a young player - they do that and then see him picked off by another club with zero compensation, and then have to turn around and find a replacement.

I don't care whether it's City, Sydney or any other club that benefits from the present system - it stinks, and transfer fees should be one of the first changes to A-League "rules."

[bt50]

Just now, jw1739 said:

IMO Retre is the perfect example of why transfer fees should be allowed between A-League clubs. 

Absolutely agree with this part. Sydney and City should be able to come to an agreed transfer fee and make the transaction, rewarding the club that puts the time into a player.

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 At the very minimum, Sydney should be required to pay what remains on Retre's contract l.e. next season's wage, and City should be entitled to ask for a further fee so that the transfer can go through. And what City receive as the transfer fee should be added to our salary cap figure for next season.

Disagree with this bit though. I dont think any minimums need to be appointed, its purely a negotiation between clubs, and probably more importantly the transfer needs to be irrelevant to salary cap.
The bit that frees up as salary cap is the wage of the player that would have been attributable anyway, so in this case the lets say 90k of Retre's salary cap is reopened again, and the transfer fee, which lets say is 20k just becomes a pure profit to the club. I think you need this to maintain the cap's integrity or otherwise you would see a richer club stockpiling talent then selling them off for modest profits in order to inflate their cap.

[Chris p]

1 hour ago, jw1739 said:

IMO Retre is the perfect example of why transfer fees should be allowed between A-League clubs. At the very minimum, Sydney should be required to pay what remains on Retre's contract l.e. next season's wage, and City should be entitled to ask for a further fee so that the transfer can go through. And what City receive as the transfer fee should be added to our salary cap figure for next season.

As it is, there is little incentive for clubs to spend several years developing a young player - they do that and then see him picked off by another club with zero compensation, and then have to turn around and find a replacement.

I don't care whether it's City, Sydney or any other club that benefits from the present system - it stinks, and transfer fees should be one of the first changes to A-League "rules."

Didnt Brisbane just earn fees through the sales of Borello and Oar ?

Transfer fees between A-league clubs would most likely have unintended consequences, Would sydney fc really stump up cash for a player like Retre ?

[bt50]

13 minutes ago, Chris p said:

Didnt Brisbane just earn fees through the sales of Borello and Oar ?

Transfer fees between A-league clubs would most likely have unintended consequences, Would sydney fc really stump up cash for a player like Retre ?

Clubs can earn transfer fees on any sale to a non A-League club. So if the club wanted the player they would. There's still nothing to say that a club can't release a player for free; its more that a club would have the option of seeking compensation rather than getting blackballed into a corner over not releasing a player.

Edited June 28, 2017 by bt50

[fensaddler]

1 hour ago, Chris p said:

Transfer fees between A-league clubs would most likely have unintended consequences, Would sydney fc really stump up cash for a player like Retre ?

All these sort of issues cause no problems in other leagues.  Players are transferred without fee if they are not deemed to justify a fee, and there are rules to compensate clubs which develop and then sell on young players. Disputes go to binding tribunals.  Simples.

[n i k o]

What's baffling is FFA has structured it that CCM plays the tards here and gets compensated accordingly (more than if they played at home) yet they're against transfer fees. It's an absolute Mickey mouse league the way they run it. 

Edited June 28, 2017 by n i k o

[jeffplz]

 

never forget

[Jimmy]

On 30/06/2017 at 2:32 AM, jeffplz said:

 

never forget

Not one person in that shot still plays for us.

[HEARTinator]

Paolo signs 2 year extension to his SFC contract. Excess to requirement at La Trobe, signs extension with silverware winning team. Add Redmayne and it says all you need to know about where we are at.

 

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/retre-rejects-rival-offers-to-remain-with-sydney-fc-20200102-p53oef.html 

Retre rejects rival offers to remain with Sydney FC

By Dominic Bossi

January 2, 2020 — 5.40pm

Another piece to Sydney FC's squad jigsaw for next season has fallen into place after Paulo Retre signed a two-year contract extension.

Having flourished as a versatile utility player over the past two-and-a-half seasons, the 26-year-old  opted to remain at the club until the end of 2022 in favour of playing for any of their rivals.

Retro had offers but said he couldn't imagine playing elsewhere, citing Sydney FC's culture and team bond as major factors behind his decision to stay.

Retre's retention always loomed as a potentially challenging signing for Sydney FC. The league leaders had nearly half their squad coming off contract as of December and all had received offers from rival A-League clubs.

Of those, few would have experienced a rise in value greater than Retre. Signed initially as a utility, Retre has chalked up more than 60 games for Sydney, playing anywhere from attacking midfield to left and right fullback.

Other clubs were potentially offering him a more settled position but Retre instead chose to become the seventh player to sign with Sydney in the past month. He says the reason so many of his teammates are rejecting offers elsewhere is because of the team environment at the club and their winning culture.

"The boys are looking to stay around and it obviously has to be for a reason," he said. "We have a great culture here, a winning culture, and I can’t think of playing another two years with another group of boys. It’s been great to sign on for another two years."

Sydney were put through a rigorous training session on Thursday with coach Steve Corica more vocal and demanding than usual. He is seeking to ensure his players don't become complacent or cocky after beating Melbourne City in dramatic circumstances last weekend, playing more than an hour with only 10 men.

"He was getting into us that it was fantastic to win the game and everyone was really happy after the game but everyone has to keep going, we can’t rest on our laurels," Retre said.

The Sky Blues can extend an A-League record for the most consecutive home wins should they beat Adelaide United at Netstrata Jubilee Stadium on Saturday evening. Sydney's 2-1 win over Melbourne City last weekend was their ninth straight at home, bettering Melbourne Victory's streak in 2008 and Perth Glory's run in 2014 of eight consecutive home wins.

"I didn’t even know that was a record – we don’t really think much about it – but it’s been fantastic playing at Jubilee, Leichhardt and all the other stadiums,” Retre said. "Hopefully there will be a nice turnout like there was against Melbourne City. It helped us, it was basically a 12th man that were helping us get through the game."

Meanwhile, Wellington Phoenix is set to announce the signing of Australian youth international Brandon Wilson. The midfielder had his Perth Glory contract terminated upon request and is expected to move to New Zealand, according to sources close to the player. Wilson was one of the four Olyroos players banned from playing internationals for a year by Football Federation Australia for his role in the Cambodia scandal last March.

[jw1739]

Was always a mistake to let this guy go.

[rass]

10 hours ago, HEARTinator said:

...Other clubs were potentially offering him a more settled position but Retre instead chose to become the seventh player to sign with Sydney in the past month. He says the reason so many of his teammates are rejecting offers elsewhere is because of the team environment at the club and their winning culture...

I really don't know why we need to keep re-hashing this sort of 'news'. Let's look at it logically - he was going nowhere at City and has now found himself part of a juggernaut.

They're still on top of the tree and look odds on to do it again this year. The way the HAL is setup currently, there's no reason why they can't continue that success either.

So why would he (and anyone else in his position now) want to leave that environment? It's not as if he is a bonafide star and would demand mega bucks elsewhere.

Makes it so much easier for Sydney to keep these players because they know they'll do their bit part jobs for minimum $. They can splash their cash on better players.

We jump on here and make a big song and dance about these types who have left and been successful - Redmayne, Caceres, etc.. - but let's be real, they were going nowhere with us and if we had kept them, the same people on here would be jumping up and down about how shit we are for keeping duds.

They've found themselves in a good spot now, good luck to them.

[HEARTinator]

11 hours ago, HEARTinator said:

Paolo signs 2 year extension to his SFC contract. Excess to requirement at La Trobe, signs extension with silverware winning team. Add Redmayne and it says all you need to know about where we are at.

He says the reason so many of his teammates are rejecting offers elsewhere is because of the team environment at the club and their winning culture.

 

 

30 minutes ago, rass said:

I really don't know why we need to keep re-hashing this sort of 'news'. Let's look at it logically - he was going nowhere at City and has now found himself part of a juggernaut.

They're still on top of the tree and look odds on to do it again this year. The way the HAL is setup currently, there's no reason why they can't continue that success either.

So why would he (and anyone else in his position now) want to leave that environment? It's not as if he is a bonafide star and would demand mega bucks elsewhere.

Makes it so much easier for Sydney to keep these players because they know they'll do their bit part jobs for minimum $. They can splash their cash on better players.

We jump on here and make a big song and dance about these types who have left and been successful - Redmayne, Caceres, etc.. - but let's be real, they were going nowhere with us and if we had kept them, the same people on here would be jumping up and down about how shit we are for keeping duds.

They've found themselves in a good spot now, good luck to them.

But my point is that he found a home in a team environment and a winning culture that we did not provide. That's the point. If we had those things none of us would be making a song and dance about him staying. He's a good squad player. Players like that are needed in every team. The best team in the HAL reckon he's worth keeping.

[rass]

14 minutes ago, HEARTinator said:

 

But my point is that he found a home in a team environment and a winning culture that we did not provide. That's the point. If we had those things none of us would be making a song and dance about him staying. He's a good squad player. Players like that are needed in every team. The best team in the HAL reckon he's worth keeping.

yeah.. but that's my thing too, the whole 'IF we had this'.... When this went down, we didn't have it. No use crying over spilt milk now, that was two managers and a CEO ago.

In my eyes, no point concentrating on the ifs, let's just get down and do the work now.

[jw1739]

1 hour ago, HEARTinator said:

But my point is that he found a home in a team environment and a winning culture that we did not provide. That's the point. If we had those things none of us would be making a song and dance about him staying. He's a good squad player. Players like that are needed in every team. The best team in the HAL reckon he's worth keeping.

I think that this is precisely the point. We've had a huge turnover in coaching staff in the "assistant" positions, and a huge turnover in players, and we still appear to lack the necessary team environment and winning culture to win the matches that really matter.

I don't think we can just ignore this. It underlies much of the discussion in various threads on the forum.

[Shahanga]

On 22/06/2017 at 10:18 PM, Shahanga said:

Great move for Paulo but it really hurts to see one of our boys at Scum FC.

i reckon he will do well there and surprise a few on this forum 

Green Line

[Jovan]

6 minutes ago, Shahanga said:

Green Line

Insert something about a broken clock about now.

[citypool]

Wow funny we start talking about him and he scores two goals now 

[Harrison]

Good player now getting his chance as a six. Happy for him.