hakz7 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I don't think there'd be any room for Garuccio or Mauk in the matchday squad for the match. Since Williams and Gerhardt are fit again.... Even if Mifsud is dropped completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Given the history JVS has with playing youngsters, its unlikely he'd drop both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Given the history JVS has with playing youngsters, its unlikely he'd drop both.Actually, when I looked at it again, there'd be room for one of them... Once again if Mifsud is dropped completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 For some reason when I press on the quote button it sends me to the bottom of the page rather than the post I am trying to quote. Anyone know how I can fix that? It should send you to the bottom of the page and automatically fill in the "Reply to this topic" text box with the quoted post. If its not working properly I can only suggest that you make sure your browser is up to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Will Mifsud even make the bench?? I am hearing he might not. If there's no possibility of him earning a new contract, which I'm sure there isn't, then this is a good move. He's had more than enough chances to A. Score and B. Learn the offside rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I don't think there'd be any room for Garuccio or Mauk in the matchday squad for the match. Since Williams and Gerhardt are fit again.... Even if Mifsud is dropped completely. I wouldn't be sure of that as JVS was/has never been Williams biggest fan... Also you got to feel for Kisnorbo if he gets dropped for Gerhardt, he not only scored last week but also got in the A League team of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Not sure how many times ADP played against us last season however he was playing down the right when he limped off the pitch following a heart tackle. Walker wasn't marking him Walker aren't featuring tomorrow Edited January 30, 2014 by ontheball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Tea leaves predicting starting XI R H W K B M E G K D R but not in that order Bench W K G G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Not sure how many times ADP played against us last season however he was playing down the right when he limped off the pitch following a heart tackle. Walker aren't featuring tomorrow Reality is the best performance at RB all Season was Hoff's in Adelaide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Tea leaves predicting starting XI R H W K B M E G K D R but not in that order Bench W K G G I really like that, for anyone having trouble... Redmayne Hoffman - Wileart - Kisnorbo - Behich Murdocca - Engelaar - Germano? Dugandzic - Kewell - Ramsey Tando, Williams, Kalmar, Gerhardt, Garrucio? Edited January 30, 2014 by LR9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Seems like jvs has had a long look at the players over a few games and sessions and is making his changes now. Hoping good things out of germanos and murdoccas enthusiasm behind engelaar Edited January 30, 2014 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Tea leaves predicting starting XI R H W K B M E G K D R but not in that order Bench W K G G I really like that, for anyone having trouble... Redmayne Hoffman - Wileart - Kisnorbo - Behich Murdocca - Engelaar - Germano? Dugandzic - Kewell - Ramsey Tando, Williams, Kalmar, Gerhardt, Garrucio? Like that team. I'd actually consider playing Ramsey through the middle and Kewell out wide (or at least having them swap during the game at some point). Ramsey has been causing a few issues when he drifts through the middle recently, although Kewell has performed well there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cunado Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Williams and Gerhardt back in the squad. No other changes. Love the above suggested lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Колобок Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? No. No. Yes. No. FOAD. Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? to expand, Sydney are a shit team that somehow has won a couple of Championships. It has chronic off-field instability, multiple ownership changes and coach changes, always with the disappointment that follows 'we are a big club and deserve to be successful'. Think of it like Chelsea without any of the positive things. ADP is playing for them and this has been good and bad: he's still a class player but the team revolves around him and he does very little defensive work these days. Last time we played at AAMI Park in the dark Aloisi era, this was maybe our darkest day when we were so unmotivated and disorganised that it made a team as obviously shit as Sydney look like Bayern Munchen. This game also featured the #AloisiOut banner that we were also featuring in our fan tweets, as well as 'Aloisi Out' chants and 'Let's pretend to score a goal' chants. It was a turning point of sorts as it was clear to everyone apart from Aloisi that nobody #believed that he could turn things around. We have unfinished business, Sydney need a good spanking from us. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups. Those I Care About Victory West Sydney Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Those I dont Care About Wellington Perth Central Coast Newcastle Edited January 30, 2014 by cadete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_terra_11 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Shitney* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups.Those I Care About SMASHING HARDVictoryWest SydneySydneyAdelaideBrisbaneThose I dont Care AboutWellingtonPerthCentral Coast Newcastle +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups. Those I Care About Victory West Sydney Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Those I dont Care About Wellington Perth Central Coast Newcastle Pretty much the same, although I personally hate Perth too. Mainly down to those hacks Burns and Mehmet (who's thankfully finished). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 From JvS: And Van 't Schip confirmed a delegation from City, who are themselves backed by the super-wealthy Abu Dhabi United Group, will be in the stands to observe their newest team's efforts. "There will be some people, there are already people here the whole week talking with the people in the office," he said. "For sure, now, it's their club. So there will be people from the organisation watching. It's important for everybody that we perform, but that has nothing to do with them now sitting here, we should have that (motivation) every time. "They're watching, having talks with people in the club and preparing all kind of things for the coming months and hopefully the coming years. It's a project for the long term. That's why everybody can continue the next few months in working and finishing this season. And then after, there certainly will be changes." Van 't Schip will make no immediate attempt to alter Heart's style of play to match the City model, claiming his philosophy fits in well with that of City's Chilean coach Manuel Pellegrini and their Spanish director of football, former Barcelona man Txiki Begiristain. "I have my way of how I want to play and I don't think that's a lot different than the way they think about playing," he said. "Of course we're talking about (a difference in) quality but I still think with the players we have and with the thoughts about how football should be played we're on the right way and it's also the way that Manchester City like." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups. Those I Care About Victory Those I dont Care About Wellington West Sydney Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Perth Central Coast Newcastle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups. Those I Care About Victory Those I dont Care About Wellington West Sydney Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Perth Central Coast Newcastle I actually hate West Sydney these days as much as I hate Victory. It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups. Those I Care About Victory West Sydney Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Those I dont Care About Wellington Perth Central Coast Newcastle Pretty much the same, although I personally hate Perth too. Mainly down to those hacks Burns and Mehmet (who's thankfully finished). After travelling to Perth over this Summer I can confirm that I now have a lot more "Dislike" for them than I did this time last year. Edited January 30, 2014 by cadete 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXJawsaXx Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Honestly the only two teams that I hate are Victory and West Sydney. I am meh about the rest of them haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups.Those I Care AboutVictoryWest SydneySydneyAdelaideBrisbaneThose I dont Care AboutWellingtonPerthCentral Coast Newcastle One Jacob Burns has put the Glory into the other column for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I hate Dutch Roar Anything NSW Victory Don't care about the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerou812 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 While I want every team to do well and the A League to grow I want to smash every we team we play from A League to the Spring Gully under 10s. Every game is a big game if we are playing for points, trophies or even a friendly I want our team to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 The way I see it when heart walks out on the ground the other team is trying to steal OUR 3 points. I hate my shit being stolen and it makes me very bitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? Just go in 45 mins late and blame it on the weather... Disclaimer: I take no responsibility or am liable to any damages should your employment be terminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 It means something to me! I hate Sydney, the place and the football team. Agreed - As far as I am concerned this is a match that matters for me as I split the Comp into the following Groups.Those I Care AboutVictoryWest SydneySydneyAdelaideBrisbaneThose I dont Care AboutWellingtonPerthCentral Coast Newcastle One Jacob Burns has put the Glory into the other column for mine. When you say "Those I care about" - what do you mean you "care" about Victory? lol jk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? Just go in 45 mins late and blame it on the weather... Disclaimer: I take no responsibility or am liable to any damages should your employment be terminated. My russian friends tell me there's nothing that can't be fixed with a bottle of living water (vodka). Hell, one of my mates even got his birth date changed hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerou812 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 will be able to watch the first half before heading into work. would appreciate if someone took his time to answer a couple questions. is this a big game? are Sydney any good? isn't ADP playing for them? does this game have any special meaning to Heart fans? is that sorry ass Behich going to play again? are there any considerable alternatives to Mifsud? to expand, Sydney are a shit team that somehow has won a couple of Championships. It has chronic off-field instability, multiple ownership changes and coach changes, always with the disappointment that follows 'we are a big club and deserve to be successful'. Think of it like Chelsea without any of the positive things. ADP is playing for them and this has been good and bad: he's still a class player but the team revolves around him and he does very little defensive work these days. Last time we played at AAMI Park in the dark Aloisi era, this was maybe our darkest day when we were so unmotivated and disorganised that it made a team as obviously shit as Sydney look like Bayern Munchen. This game also featured the #AloisiOut banner that we were also featuring in our fan tweets, as well as 'Aloisi Out' chants and 'Let's pretend to score a goal' chants. It was a turning point of sorts as it was clear to everyone apart from Aloisi that nobody #believed that he could turn things around. We have unfinished business, Sydney need a good spanking from us. Just to add looks like Behich will be playing hopefully will have a good game this week and show why he was one of best players. as for Mifspud I don't think we actually a real out and out striker. We have people that can play there but know one that can really say they are a quality finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 From JvS: And Van 't Schip confirmed a delegation from City, who are themselves backed by the super-wealthy Abu Dhabi United Group, will be in the stands to observe their newest team's efforts. "There will be some people, there are already people here the whole week talking with the people in the office," he said. "For sure, now, it's their club. So there will be people from the organisation watching. It's important for everybody that we perform, but that has nothing to do with them now sitting here, we should have that (motivation) every time. "They're watching, having talks with people in the club and preparing all kind of things for the coming months and hopefully the coming years. It's a project for the long term. That's why everybody can continue the next few months in working and finishing this season. And then after, there certainly will be changes." Van 't Schip will make no immediate attempt to alter Heart's style of play to match the City model, claiming his philosophy fits in well with that of City's Chilean coach Manuel Pellegrini and their Spanish director of football, former Barcelona man Txiki Begiristain. "I have my way of how I want to play and I don't think that's a lot different than the way they think about playing," he said. "Of course we're talking about (a difference in) quality but I still think with the players we have and with the thoughts about how football should be played we're on the right way and it's also the way that Manchester City like." Clearly at the end JVS pitching to keep his job under the new management team. The fact that the new team is in town and running the ruler over us is farken great news already. I'm kinda in a "don't give a shit about results from here just let the season end and start preparing for HAL10!" frame of mind ATM. But will be there tomorrow night anyway - just out of habit I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Honestly the only two teams that I hate are Victory and West Sydney. I am meh about the rest of them haha. All this Victory hate, I don't care what they do. They aren't important at all to me and that's why I don't support them, also for the same reason I don't hate them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just to have the info here, here's the extended squad for tomorrow: Melbourne Heart FC Squad: 1. Andrew REDMAYNE (GK), 3. Robbie WIELAERT, 4. Orlando ENGELAAR, 6. Patrick GERHARDT, 7. Iain RAMSAY, 8. Massimo MURDOCCA, 10. Harry KEWELL ©, 11.Michael MIFSUD, 13. Jonatan GERMANO, 15. David WILLIAMS, 16. Aziz BEHICH, 17. Jason HOFFMAN, 19. Benjamin GARUCCIO, 20. Tando VELAPHI (GK), 21. Stefan MAUK, 22. Nick KALMAR, 23. Mate DUGANDZIC, 24. Patrick KISNORBO **Two to be omitted** Ins: 6. Patrick GERHARDT (returns from injury), 15. David WILLIAMS (returns from injury), Outs: Nil Unavailable: Nil Pretty much as people suggested. I hope we see the suggested starting XI as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Perhaps I'm alone in this, but I don't quite understand what JvS is doing at the moment. He seems to be dishing up pretty much the same team every week, whereas I'd expected (especially after new owners arrived) that we would be having a broader look at the squad and be including the likes of Vrankovic, Retre, Schroen etc. to get 20 minutes or so under A-League conditions with a view to moulding the squad for next season. Do we really believe we can make the six? I'm puzzled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I'm not too sure exactly what JVS is thinking either. He did stress at the start that he wouldn't play youth just for the sake of playing youth. And many players, like Dugandzic and Ramsay, have improved very noticeably, so understandably he hasn't dropped players who have improved. Also he did lose the likes of Mauk and Vrankovic for about 2 rounds, which would have made it tougher to integrate them into the squad. I expect him to give the young players more game time in the remaining games. Another thing, he did sub on Mauk against Adelaide and his marking for the second goal was poor, so it's understandable to not give him back to back appearances (which would be rewarding a rather poor showing). JVS has massively changed our football, both our formation and our style of play. Our passing has improved significantly, and we're keeping the ball much better. We've also rather remarkably scored 5 goals over the past 2 games. Given that he's wanted to change our tactics so much, it's possible that he hasn't yet wanted to change personnel much as well. I also think there's a slight chance that JVS might want maximum success in what remains of our season now that Man City have taken over. If JVS is especially keen to remain at Heart, he has more incentive to stick with the older players (many of whom are much more confident and much improved now) rather than prepare young players for next season, to play in a team that he might not coach. But for my money JVS is just working and struggling to rebuild a team that was an absolute wreck. It was dead last, and a mile away from 9th place, the confidence of every player was shot to pieces and JVS wanted to fundamentally change the way we were playing football with only 14 games to go after he replaced JA. So he's changed things a fair bit, and I've been pretty happy with most of these changes, but likewise I too would like to see more changes, especially with regards to younger players playing more often. Edited January 30, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Perhaps I'm alone in this, but I don't quite understand what JvS is doing at the moment. He seems to be dishing up pretty much the same team every week, whereas I'd expected (especially after new owners arrived) that we would be having a broader look at the squad and be including the likes of Vrankovic, Retre, Schroen etc. to get 20 minutes or so under A-League conditions with a view to moulding the squad for next season. Do we really believe we can make the six? I'm puzzled. I see it as a job preservation strategy. New owners are results orientated and although he is only care taking, I'm certain he wants to present himself as someone who could be considered by the city group as a capable individual. Perhaps a role somewhere in the empire even if it isn't in Australia. If you look back as our results were going south under JA he kept using his older experienced players only because he was so desperate for a win. He had no time for youngsters. He needed a win We could be facing similar dilemma here with JVS He wants to impress new owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 TBH hadn't thought much about it, just so relieved to look at the bench and see a guy who actually knows what's he doing! Anyway, I agree with you though, given the season's effectively gone, playing a few young guys who are going to be off contract soon (and thus you need to make your mind up about them) makes sense. To make the finals we'd need about another 24 points from 11 games. Say 7W 3D 1L. Not impossible, but very unlikely. The only good thing to say about that requirement is that IF we can make the finals we will clearly be the form team in the comp, so would take some beating. The logical conclusion to me is that the club believes we have the squad to do just that and is instructing the manager to go for it. If the club is fair dinkum in that goal I expect them to bring someone in, either an attacking mid or a striker to help make it happen. if not, please play a few of the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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