Luke Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 we gotta think outside the box and go foreign, Someone with recent experience in the j-league or k-league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexli Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 we gotta think outside the box and go foreign, Someone with recent experience in the j-league or k-league Why not CSL the Chinese league? Rumor says Aleksandar Stanojevic will leave Beijing, very good young manager, made Beijing qualified round of 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samardzija Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 We should think big and get a World Cup manager in, my tip is Rale Rasic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Damien Mori - 5 titles with Adelaide City. would take as an assistant for sure!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddersss Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Use our links to Cruyff to get Rijkaard! Yeah okay I'm dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watdog Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 A. Vidmar, once the World Cup is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Fuck Vidmar. If I wanted to watch 10 men behind the ball and hope to win via a set piece I'd watch Stoke City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTD/MLBHRT/ESSNDON Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 He couldn't get the kit mans job at Heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 He scored a nice goal in a WCQ against South American opposition. Surely that means he is well credentialed for the Heart post. What do you mean don't go there? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watdog Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Mus 28 and others it's an opinion, I don't get on here much due to time but the language is pathetic, school,boy stuff. I think vid mar would be better for the experience he has/will gain in the next 6 months. Rather than post that rubbish how about an idea of your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Ali Edwards sons are still getting a game at Glory so it seems Jacob Burns is the reason he was sacked , id be happy with him in charge ,Glory without their injuries would be top 4 IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 fwiw the concerns that wherever edwards goes his sons come too is off the mark. - cameron has already had a crack with us and couldn't get a game, doubt it would look particularly good bringing him back again. - ryan is on loan from reading and i don't think they'll be in a hurry to give up a promising youngster without a hefty fee and since when would we even think about paying a transfer fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Mus 28 and others it's an opinion, I don't get on here much due to time but the language is pathetic, school,boy stuff. I think vid mar would be better for the experience he has/will gain in the next 6 months. Rather than post that rubbish how about an idea of your own. Deepest apologies old chap. I personally would rather the club not make advances towards Aurelio Vidmar. I found his game plan to be very one dimensional. His successes in Asia were predominantly due to sticking 10 chaps in front of goal for 90 minutes and hoping that large fellow Van Dijk could win a free kick that which the could use their physical superiority to put the pig skin in the back of the onion bag. But lets just concentrate on an appearance in the ACL final and not abysmal league form during his time there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Aurelio wouldn't be my first choice but to be fair, his coaching may have evolved after several years with the national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 So who are the local candidates? - Alistair Edwards - Ante Milicic - Arthur Papas - Rado Vidisic - Aurelio Vidmar - Mark Rudan - Phil Stubbins Not the worst collection to interview. Add in some others and overseas candidates and it's hard to get it wrong this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Can someone please give me an explanation as to why Allistair Edwards would be good for our club? Cunts a fucking joke if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Can someone please give me an explanation as to why Allistair Edwards would be good for our club? Cunts a fucking joke if you ask me. I think his record and work is worth an interview. Generally wants to play football the right way and believes in promotion and development of younger players. I too have my doubts but as I said he is worth a shot. Personally Phil Stubbins is the hardest coach there. Having played in teams with and against him in the past he's a hard task manager but a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watdog Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think we need a proven coach, I would like to look local, foreigners tend to be journeymen with not enough time in anyone place to build credentials and reputations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 We should go for Papas on a 2 year deal Get him into the club ASAP to assist JVS and to discover what he is up against next season. Don't wait too long and waste preseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 We should go for Papas on a 2 year deal Get him into the club ASAP to assist JVS and to discover what he is up against next season. Don't wait too long and waste preseason Of the local possibles I also favour Papas. By all accounts he lives, eats and sleeps football. He's local, he knows the club and JvS, having been Assistant with the NYL team until he was poached by Newcastle, and as you say he can get on board now for scouting and pre-season. Importantly he has no baggage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I'd want Papas to show a bit more at his current team before handing him the reigns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 And Papas is losing it on Twitter currently, may be after a new job soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 some info on Papas, no mention of his time at Heart assisting the great JA. Too embarrassing I suppose. Greek Australian Arthur Papas is making waves in Indian soccer. Considered to be one of the best coaches in India, he is currently coaching the Olympic team and a team in the top tier of Indian football. He left his Victorian roots to pursue an international career, and has been in India for a year making I-League team Dempo successful once more. This meteoric rise has been something the young coach would never have expected ten years ago. At the age of 25, he had to realise his Australian football career was finishing before it started. After six knee surgeries, he hung up his shoes and re-assessed his options. His love of football never left him, so he stuck close to the sport, and started making a name for himself as a coach. He became the youngest coach in the Victorian Premier League at the age of 30, taking on Greek sponsored Oakleigh Cannons and leading them into the grand final. For his efforts, he was awarded the best coach of the season in 2011. He then followed into the top tier, coaching Newcastle Jets in the 2011/12 season, with the team finishing seventh. He served as assistant coach for the U-17 Australian team that did wonders for his coaching skills. He now coaches for the Indian top tier club Dempo, and has brought the club back to life. The club is currently in a transition period after being very successful in the past. Under the watchful eye of Papas, the club is now implementing a long term strategy on and off the field to get the club back to its former glory. "This is one of the main reasons I came to the group," Papas tells Sport 24. "There is still a long way to go to make the club viable and operate more efficiently. It takes time to get to this stage." He bases much of his coaching technique on what he learnt from Dutch coach and former Australian U20s coach Jan Versleigen. "My football philosophy has considerably evolved and continues to with my football experiences," he says. "The teams I work with have a clear form of game. It's based on uninterrupted possession and combined with simple passes and creative movement." Despite his success in India, Papas hopes to reassess his career options again, and could be returning to Australia soon or taking up a role in the Greek leagues. He makes no secret that in his early years as a player, he'd watch Panathinaikos battle in the Super League. "To work in Greece is a personal goal and of course it takes time to get to this level in order to have the right opportunity," he says. He's already working on his technical skills to get Super League ready. This article first appeared in sport24.gr in Greek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 "The teams I work with have a clear form of game. It's based on uninterrupted possession and combined with simple passes and creative movement." I can hear music... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 "The teams I work with have a clear form of game. It's based on uninterrupted possession and combined with simple passes and creative movement." I can hear music... i hope that he can hear his phone ringing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 He should at very least be offered the assistant position if we have ambitious new owners who want to sign a gun coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 FFS, he is the most obvious man for the role. He represents everything our club is supposed to stand for. To me, he will be the next big manager in Australian football, you only need to hear his thoughts on the game to know he will be a success. Aloisi sounded like a rock ape, this bloke sounds like a professor. Fuck me, our club has made enough mistakes. Please, please, get this right. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 The clear favourite in my mind. A long with his experiences and philosophies he comes with knowledge of the Australian market and Asian market. He also loves promotion of youth and would know the VPL and youth markets extremely well. I love how he had a clear plan in getting Dempo back in all facets of football. He's a leading candidate and one who should have been approached last time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If we end up getting pappas an as assistant....then the manager would have to be a pretty big scalp then. its win win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 A big scalp manager would be very attractive to an assistant as a pathway to the senior position. Hang on isn't that hat we promised Ante? Imagine what Papas would say if he was asked if he wanted to be Bielsa's assistant (or equivalent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 mamacita? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If we end up getting pappas an as assistant....then the manager would have to be a pretty big scalp then. its win win He will only come back as a head coach. He knows his ready for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Also another rumor from soccer stoppage time is that we are going hard to get Kenny Lowe. Not sure in what role though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Also another rumor from soccer stoppage time is that we are going hard to get Kenny Lowe. Not sure in what role though. We had previously offered him the job as Aloisi's assistant. He turned it down because we allegedly offered to pay him peanuts (surprise surprise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 I was keen on Pappas before JA got the job. Still think he is on of the best local options we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Also another rumor from soccer stoppage time is that we are going hard to get Kenny Lowe. Not sure in what role though.We had previously offered him the job as Aloisi's assistant. He turned it down because we allegedly offered to pay him peanuts (surprise surprise).Yeah now the rumor is we have made an approach for the senior coaching role. Personally I don't really want Kenny Lowe, I think the coach is one area where we need most of the ambition and money going in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hmm, doesn't exactly ooze quality. Former co-manager of Gateshead and manager of Barrow. He'd be used to wheelie bins though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Would be disappointed if we got Lowe. He's pretty much only worked in very low leagues in England, and now he has the interim position at Perth. We might as well go after Alistair Edwards if we're looking at WA coaches, as he'd be better than Lowe. I'd prefer pretty much any name on Melburnian's list above to Lowe. Lowe would be too modest an appointment at a time when Heart need a more skilled or proven coach. Edited January 14, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Lowe would be the other end of the spectrum of bad appointments compare to Aloisi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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