Kiro Kompiro Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 We sign players with long histories of injuries who aren't even fit when we sign them, on the back end of their careers eg Skoko, Fred, Kewell Grella, Kisnorbo thinking we're getting a bargain. Yeah my brother bought an AMG C36, $155, 000 car new in 1997 fpr $10k , but it needed a new head gasket soon after, a transmission re-build, plus a few little niggly things as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Miglorini didn't play because of a knee, JA says he will be good soon so assuming next week or 2, personally I think our midfield did well with out him and would like to see the young boys get more of a run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Miglorini didn't play because of a knee, JA says he will be good soon so assuming next week or 2, personally I think our midfield did well with out him and would like to see the young boys get more of a run. Yep was very happy with Retre and didn't think he was any worse than Migliorini (I think Migliorini is another with a tendency to lob instead of pass so I'd prefer Retre anyway who played it along the ground). Unfortunately Aloisi doesn't like playing youth unless he absolutely has to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 At present (in my view of course) we have our best 3 players injured: Engleaar, Kewell and Kisnorbo. Makes it tough. In regards to Miglorini, Retre looked good and if he adopts the time honoured approach of "never giving a sucker an even break" then that position is his to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 If we released Germano who would play Santa at the club Christmas party? Got to think of the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 At present (in my view of course) we have our best 3 players injured: Engleaar, Kewell and Kisnorbo. Makes it tough. In regards to Miglorini, Retre looked good and if he adopts the time honoured approach of "never giving a sucker an even break" then that position is his to lose. Wielaert >>> Kisnorbo, FWIW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 WSW's only goal came from Wielhart being beaten in the air, that doesn't happen to Paddy K. Wielhart is a better footballer but for mine not the better defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Wielaert is very good but when we had kisnorbo there where no fuck ups in defence or is this due to kisnorbo and Robbie being a better pairing then gerhardt and wielaert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Wielaert is very good but when we had kisnorbo there where no fuck ups in defence or is this due to kisnorbo and Robbie being a better pairing then gerhardt and wielaert Except for perths goal and one ccm penalty that was due to kisnorbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Wielaert is very good but when we had kisnorbo there where no fuck ups in defence or is this due to kisnorbo and Robbie being a better pairing then gerhardt and wielaert Except for perths goal and one ccm penalty that was due to kisnorbo? Yeah well that's is only 2 of the seven we have conceded this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartofmelbourne12 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 How can you blame wieleart? That goal was clearly gerhardt's fault, out of position as usual. #startvranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 How can you blame wieleart? That goal was clearly gerhardt's fault, out of position as usual. #startvranks I wasn't really blaming wielaert I was more saying that we looked better and made less mistakes with kisnorbo in the team. Also I agree with you I would love to see vranks get a game, he has great potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 How can you blame wieleart? That goal was clearly gerhardt's fault, out of position as usual. #startvranks Still a shit clearance from Wielaert that gave the ball to WSW in our 18yrd box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 It happens. Wielaert has looked solid for the most part and plays the ball out well. Give the new boys time to settle before calling for their head. You don't know who you might get as a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Should never appointed the hot physio. Seems all the players would rather be in her company than on the park. Get us a 60y.o Maltese bloke with a cold sponge on the knackers and watch our injury problems disappear. Curiously missing in action Friday night, the club may be reading this after all. No old Maltese bloke there tho, just a rather large Sven the masseuse type. Edited November 9, 2013 by Cinnamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 How can you blame wieleart? That goal was clearly gerhardt's fault, out of position as usual. #startvranks Still a shit clearance from Wielaert that gave the ball to WSW in our 18yrd box Blame the goals on whoever you want....the fact of the matter is we cannot score goals ourselves...that is the problem which the team has!!!!! JA has gone out of his way to publicly state that other teams will find it hard to score against us...but he forgot about the most crucial part of this game.....TO SCORE MORE GOALS THAN YOUR OPPONENTS... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Retre produced better than Migliorini. Wow who would have thought an Australian youth could match a foreign player. We have good youth. We need more but we have some. Vrankovic next. Replace Gerhardt. Can anyone tell me why Garrucio didn't play in the youth side today? He's another one who has talent that could come in. The makings of our team are their in youth. Retre, Mauk, Vrankovic, Garrucio, Walker. I'd be more excited with them going out to battle for us. I don't know, gives me a sense of pride we produced these guys and they are ours lads giving their all. Give these guys a good tactical manager and it would make us an exciting club. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Guess this is taken with a grain of salt, but in Aloisi's press conference he said: Kisnorbo will be back Migliorini will be back Kewell is a chance For the Newcastle game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Guess this is taken with a grain of salt, but in Aloisi's press conference he said: Kisnorbo will be back Migliorini will be back Kewell is a chance For the Newcastle game. What about hoffman? He was the glue keeping our club together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samardzija Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Kisnorbo is prone to many blunders, plus wont help us score goals which is what we are lacking most atm. Migliorini is barely an improvement on Retre and is a waste of a spot on the roster, shouldnt be a injury replacement player. Kewell cannot be relied on considering hes played barely 3 or 4 games of competitive football over the last 2 years. If thats what Aloisi is looking forward to, then we have more issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 We had all those guys round 1 and still played shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Kisnorbo will be back Migliorini will be back Kewell is a chance i doubt he will play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Our many injuries have to be linked to our crap facilities. The most obvious one is Kewell. His foot sunk into soft ground and then wouldn't turn with the rest of him. Wouldn't have happened with good facilities and without that injury he'd have played the last 2 games. I wonder how many of the other injuries are related to the poor facilities - we only know about Kewell because of the media attention he gets. As to that ground at Latrobe I hope we don't train their anymore. "My" U10 girls train in better conditions than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 We seem to get more injuries in training than we do during matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) Surely there are enough sports grounds around Melbourne to find the perfect spot for our collection of molly-coddled players? Tired of all the excuses. Like I've said elsewhere. Pull some of these guys in. Tell them that they're professional footballers and are paid to play, and that they need to get themselves fit and ready to do so. The club offers all the facilities in terms of medical, physiotherapy, and daily training, and I'm sure has programmes for individual players (if it doesn't it needs to). But I'm beginning to wonder if there are some players who are just milking the system and don't really want to play. Contrast Aziz. Poor bugger runs himself into the turf week after week, cops a knock or a strain pretty much every game, but gets himself back and ready to go again every time. Edited November 16, 2013 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 We should sign Cassio from Adelaide, 1 game after a long injury lay off and he tears his hammy again. It sounds just like the sort of cheap player we look to pick up. He might be a good golf partner for Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 We should sign Cassio from Adelaide, 1 game after a long injury lay off and he tears his hammy again. It sounds just like the sort of cheap player we look to pick up. He might be a good golf partner for Harry If he's over 30 as well he should be our no. 1 target for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfly100 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 We should sign Cassio from Adelaide, 1 game after a long injury lay off and he tears his hammy again. It sounds just like the sort of cheap player we look to pick up. He might be a good golf partner for Harry If he's over 30 as well he should be our no. 1 target for next season. He has to play for victory first then we can sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 We seem to get more injuries in training than we do during matches Pretty simple reason why. I wouldn't let my under 10 ' s team play or train at La Trobe. The surface is horrendous. What's more embarrassing is how unprofessional the whole set up is. Not elite. Simply not elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted November 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 So only 3 injured players on our list now. That wont help with the club excuses, particularly since no one can remember what Germano looks like and Dylan was only ever meant to be a back up... or was our entire hope of scoring goals based on the defensive midfield skills of Orlando? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 No, our entire hope of scoring/winning is reliant on whoever happens to be injured at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Original post updated to reflect Harry's current state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sharpy Posted December 3, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Can this get stickied/pinned? I'll keep updating when I can. All injury related discussion welcome in here and feel free to advise on the player list aswell. No. Position Player 1 GK Tando Velaphi - fit 2 DF Jeremy Walker - fit 3 DF Rob Wielaert - fit 4 MF Orlando Engelaar - fractured leg (2014) 5 DF Sam Mitchinson - fit 6 DF Patrick Gerhardt - fit 7 MF Iain Ramsay - fit 8 MF Massimo Murdocca - fit 9 FW Dylan Macallister - torn hamstring (mid Dec '13) 10 MF Harry Kewell - pulled heart muscle (when ever) 11 FW Michael Mifsud - fit 13 MF Jonatan Germano - hamstring (early Dec '13) 14 FW Golgol Mebrahtu - fit 15 FW David Williams - fit 16 DF Aziz Behich - fit 17 MF Jason Hoffman - fit 18 DF David Vranković - fit 19 MF Ben Garuccio - fit 20 GK Andrew Redmayne - fit 21 MF Stefan Mauk - fit 22 MF Nick Kalmar - fit 23 FW Mate Dugandžić - fit 24 DF Patrick Kisnorbo - fit 25 MF Andrea Migliorini - fit Physio - fit 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Can this get stickied/pinned? I'll keep updating when I can. All injury related discussion welcome in here and feel free to advise on the player list aswell. No. Position Player 1 GK Tando Velaphi - fit 2 DF Jeremy Walker - fit 3 DF Rob Wielaert - fit 4 MF Orlando Engelaar - fractured leg (2014) 5 DF Sam Mitchinson - fit 6 DF Patrick Gerhardt - fit 7 MF Iain Ramsay - fit 8 MF Massimo Murdocca - fit 9 FW Dylan Macallister - torn hamstring (mid Dec '13) 10 MF Harry Kewell - pulled heart muscle (when ever) 11 FW Michael Mifsud - fit 13 MF Jonatan Germano - hamstring (early Dec '13) 14 FW Golgol Mebrahtu - fit 15 FW David Williams - fit 16 DF Aziz Behich - fit 17 MF Jason Hoffman - fit 18 DF David Vranković - fit 19 MF Ben Garuccio - fit 20 GK Andrew Redmayne - fit 21 MF Stefan Mauk - fit 22 MF Nick Kalmar - fit 23 FW Mate Dugandžić - fit 24 DF Patrick Kisnorbo - fit 25 MF Andrea Migliorini - fit Physio - fit Very sharp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Apparently this guy Simone Ripamonti (https://twitter.com/simoripamonti) is our new High Performance Manager and/or Strength and Conditioning Coach. I assume he has replaced Tom Reddin. Here's a summary of him: Name: Simone Ripamonti Role: Top Training founder, sports-holidays director for amatours, professional and èlite athletes. Professional Certificate: member of the Italian Football (soccer) Federation for Strength and Conditioning Coaches (No 114307) certified by the Technical Sector of Coverciano - Florence - Italy, December 2011. Professional experience: 5 years (High Performance Level) SUMMARY Simone Ripamonti, aged 29, is an emerging new generation sport trainer born in Sassari (Sardinia) Mr. Ripamonti has considerable management acquired from running his practice experience over several locations and professional football (soccer) clubs he has worked with great enthusiasm and try to see the positives in every situation, always ready to learn from others, but also to contribute to help others wherever he can to build a team. He currentrly promotes several projects related to its home land as the Top Training project in Sardinia, a project who create the perfect conjunction between sport, environment and technology. SKILL & EXPERTISE Sports performance enhancement focused on injuries prevention throught core strength, postural alignment, functional and specific strength and conditioning demands, match or training recovery and regeneration, training load analysis with technological devices and soft-wares. (Source with more info http://www.toptrainingalghero.it/en/project/top-training/creator-project.html) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) Hopefully the club don't think that replacing Reddin, rather than replacing Aloisi, will improve our results. Even though our fitness department probably needed a shack up, it would be unfortunate if people were scapegoated to take blame instead of Aloisi (and also, it might mean that the club won't look at sacking Aloisi for a while longer...). Edited December 4, 2013 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 A good start none the less imo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 A good start none the less imo Yes it is. And interesting that we're getting people on board from Europe. Every little helps. The Board said it would bring more resources to the Football Department and it is doing that. I think this increases pressure on Aloisi rather than the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 So yeah, DMac may as well get delisted, how old is he anyway? and Germano has surely got to go now too. As for H, well is he really "coming back from injury"?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Simone Ripamonti looks to have good pedigree. It seems he even spent some time at Real Madrid. Here's some tweets from Ripamonti about his approach to fitness and rehabilitation: No time to rest if you are injuried! #highly-functional #training key to accelerate rehab process! @MelbourneHeart 8.30 a new training day start with the injuried players at Epping Today's menù #On-Pitch session, #Gym and #Pool #Recovery @MelbourneHeart https://twitter.com/simoripamonti Edited December 7, 2013 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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