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Lol. So basically what you are saying is if he had a squad of players and an assistant that could do his job for him, he would be good at his job. Fuck me, this forum makes my head spin sometimes.

Is that sheepdog in there? The tall one at the back with the black cap? :ph34r: Dont you mean

unlucky victory.

Stop hijacking my quality thread with shit that no one else knows what the fuck you are talking about. Ya cunts.

Fuck oath I would. The Unions are to thank for the some of the best working conditions in the world, but there is no doubt they've been trying to take more than they give for the best part of two decades to the point where business has a greater chance of failing than succeeding now. Cancer on our economy in their current form.

what a poofta

Fall down a flight of stairs you cunt.

I like to think that he has realised how shit he is and is now trying to payback his horrid time as our coach by taking down Victory from the inside.

My care cup is 2nd hand from 2 girls 1 cup. Pretty shitful at the moment.

Lol. So basically what you are saying is if he had a squad of players and an assistant that could do his job for him, he would be good at his job. Fuck me, this forum makes my head spin sometimes. Seriously, I do not think their will be a better post on this forum this season than this one from KSK... And importantly it is actually relevant to why we log in to this place because we actually care about this fucken shit football side we all have to watch every week. I'm finding small hair line fractures in my care cup I am too. Well sort of. I am trying to force myself to stop caring but if I'm honest, I care. I care a lot. I can't help it, no matter how much I try to convince myself not to My care cup is more like a care sieve at the moment. So much so that I wasn't even embarrassed when I saw the photo of inter city elite.

Is that sheepdog in there? The tall one at the back with the black cap?

Football is a 'weakest link' game. You get more value by culling and replacing the worst players (Redders, Ramsay, Hoffman etc) than by adding Villa or Kennedy or Koren.

When JVS took over last season from the 30th December - 12th April 2014 his record stood at a 40% win rate. At the end of the season we saw a number of players brought in which should have strengthened the team. Now he is sitting with a 33% win rate. This team right now should be better than what we had last season because all we have done is strengthened the team with new players. Yes there are still players that must be removed but they are also the same players under JVS last season that lead us to that 40% win rate. I'm tiring of excuses, so I ask those of you that are not questioning JVS ability to ask yourselves how he can have an improved squad compared to last season and be doing worse?

From a reliable source? greek construction worker

The A-League is just one giant merry-go-round - players and coaches. All that seems to change is the colours they are wearing. Where is the new talent? Promotion from the state leagues? No, old school tie. That's all you need.

Walking Dead back today and Better Call Saul starts today.

Lol. So basically what you are saying is if he had a squad of players and an assistant that could do his job for him, he would be good at his job. Fuck me, this forum makes my head spin sometimes. Seems to have worked for both Popovic and Ange. Oh, what could have been if Ante was given the head coach position rather than JA... Obviously you need good support staff to succeed but to say that Ange's track record isn't because of him is about as far fetched as people thinking JVS' track record isn't because of him.

In this discussion IMO a lot of van 't Schip supporters are forgetting that he took over at Christmas 2013. He had the second half of last season and the off-season to get the squad right, and this season to get the squad motivated and playing well. He has the backing of CFG. He has hand-picked assistant coaches. Yes, of course there is some carry-over from the previous season - that is the case with any football club. But I cannot see that as Head Coach he is anything but accountable. To have Melbourne City "not turn up" and be "flat" for of all things a Melbourne Derby is just not acceptable.

and yet I'd still take this over supporting the tards...

Read those comments too. Did make me laugh because there is zero chance we outsung them That is ridiculously funny as in our active bays we had mainly the core group singing (100 people?) with too many passengers. NT would have ....let's say close to 1k?

The list is not good enough. At least, the list is not good enough to beat 2nd place victory, who are annoyingly looking good this year and are joint title favourites with Perth. Victory have only lost 2 games this season (once to us, at AAMI, and once to 1st place Perth), so this derby was always going to be a headache. And the injury list, Paartalu, Dugandzic, Velaphi, Garuccio, Brown, Wielaert, and seemingly Mauk, Marino, Germano, is too onerous on a squad with the likes of Ramsay, Redmayne and Murdocca in it. The squad still needs a significant cleanout. I love this bloke. Gotta hand it to you Murf, despite all logocal and statistical evidence you don't bend on your opinions. I like and appreciate stubbornness. Well I guess someone has to balance out the cult-like Anti-JVS brigade. I look forward to seeing the superstardom that Redmayne, Ramsay, Wielaert, Murdocca, Williams, Dugandzic and Germano will go on to achieve once they come across a new coach. If Williams and Redmayne are no good, why did JVS extend their contracts? It is JVSs fault the squad has holes in it. It was blatantly obvious that we needed a LB before the season started.... TBH it wouldn't surprise me if you actually were JVS

From a reliable source?greek construction worker Fuck the cfmeu

would probs get hepatitis. But same... How the fuck did I miss this? Lol On the bright side, you can only get it once!

Nah fuck that. I like it when I see his name in bold on the main page of the forum as I know he's fucked up again.

To see this cunt of a bloke beat his chest in front of the Yarraside and tell everyone he was all heart. JA go fuck yourself.. That's why you are a shit coach because you don't stand for anything and players can see through your bullshit .. You have no coaching philosophy, you don't have any ability in developing young Australian players.. Once the MV see that you will again be out on your ass.. You have completely destroyed your own legacy..

Typical Victory, always feeding on our scraps.

Not sure what’s more potentially harmful to the kids, Archie’s anti-vaccination stance or JA’s coaching. And what is the “Victory Way” is that the football philosophy of pinching players and staff from Brisbane Roar?

Time heals all wounds .... so based on JA's stint at our club, and the pain he has inflicted, given I'm 40, I'll start warming to him when I'm 86 ... In my third life from now

They may have won the battle, but this is a significant step to us winning the war.

Just say that football (soccer) is better than AFL or that you hate Collingwood. Eddie will die to have you on.

Back on topic please gentlemen.

These guys didn't last very long

The cunt who incited our supporters on Saturday? not like he's as big a cunt as berisha The cunt who incited our supporters on Saturday? Please Jimmy don't feed the troll jog on dickhead Did you even go to/ watch the game Saturday? You seriously can't be advocating the signing of a player who actively attempted to aggrivate our active area. It leaves two options a) you have no idea what you are talking about or you are a troll. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, clearly if you aren't trolling then you have no idea about football.

The cunt who incited our supporters on Saturday? Please Jimmy don't feed the trollNah, he's right. Let's throw big money at getting Muscat over to replace JVS as well and then maybe Thompson will follow him across as he doesn't seem to be getting much game time at Victory

Kiwi's are generally Anglo. Everyone knows you can't be racist to an Anglo...

You don't piss excess vitamin d out, it just builds up, hence why it can be toxic if you take too much consistently.

You play in the best way to exploit your opponent's weaknesses. The HAL is too even for a team to impose itself in every game irrespective of the opponent the way that Roar could a few seasons ago, that was a tactical innovation that left the other teams playing catchup for a season. We know that there isn't a lot of difference between us and the Visitors, particularly in defence, the difference is at the other end of the pitch where they had 3 shots on target and scored with all of them. We don't have a forward line with those abilities so it makes natural sense of the Visitors to sit back, press in midfield and counter attack. Everytime they have tried to play our game we have beaten them from season 1, that isn't a new thing, Muscunt understands that well. What was most disappointing is that we couldn't put their shaky defence under any pressure whatsoever before our only serious attempt on goal in the 86'. In that respect it was a far worse performance than the first derby when we match them in the first half

You seriously would reward him with a High End role at club considering he can't manage poor performing players at the grass roots level?? Do you work in a government job by any chance??

Embarrassing. A good manager should be able to, at half time, give the team a good talking to in that they come out fired up and looking like a different side. Not only did it not happen on Saturday, I didn't happen last time we were there. Both games were within reach... nobody stood up to grab it. Utterly disappointed.

exactly right Tesla. When Ange was at Brisbane, every player in that team looked great. Solorzano was the top scorer and when he went to MV the next season he didn't even score once and looked very ordinary. The same goes with Paartalu IMO. Even though he's been good for us so far it think people we're expecting a lot more from him going by his performances at Brisbane under ange. With the list we have at the moment a good coach would have us top 4 easy.

The list is not good enough. At least, the list is not good enough to beat 2nd place victory, who are annoyingly looking good this year and are joint title favourites with Perth. Victory have only lost 2 games this season (once to us, at AAMI, and once to 1st place Perth), so this derby was always going to be a headache. And the injury list, Paartalu, Dugandzic, Velaphi, Garuccio, Brown, Wielaert, and seemingly Mauk, Marino, Germano, is too onerous on a squad with the likes of Ramsay, Redmayne and Murdocca in it. The squad still needs a significant cleanout. I love this bloke. Gotta hand it to you Murf, despite all logocal and statistical evidence you don't bend on your opinions. I like and appreciate stubbornness. Well I guess someone has to balance out the cult-like Anti-JVS brigade. I look forward to seeing the superstardom that Redmayne, Ramsay, Wielaert, Murdocca, Williams, Dugandzic and Germano will go on to achieve once they come across a new coach. Fact is, when we signed each of those players, people were happy and thought each of those would be important players (apart from Redmayne I guess). Most of them had very good track records before coming here, Williams was the best player in an A-league team, Murdocca an important player in a title winning side, Dugandzic was a pretty highly rated player everyone thought was on his way to Europe instead of us, Ramsay was considered a good A-League player, Wielaert has played at a high level and where he played last reads well on paper (never saw how he actually performed so dont know how he was actually going), Germano is a talented footbalelr as we have seen, and Redmayne was rated as one of the best goalkeeping prospects in the country. Now look at them all. Do you think it's a coincidence? The real world isn't FIFA, players don't have some overall number and that's how good they are. They have a set of skills, and it's up to the manager to get the most of a player's skill set. Under the right system even a very average player can be a star. I hate to use the West Sydney example again, but it illustrated my example pretty well. Or what about when Hiddink took over the Socceroos. And the reverse applies as well, under the wrong system even a star can be a very average player. Apart from the tactical aspect, there's also the motivational aspect. Even if a manager isn't that great a tactician, they can do well just by motivating their team well and extracting greater performances from their players. So the point I'm making is a player's performance is highly dependant on the manager, and whenb we have a squad full of players who have previously played well and now they all play like trash, surely we have to consider that the problem is the manager?

The list is not good enough. At least, the list is not good enough to beat 2nd place victory, who are annoyingly looking good this year and are joint title favourites with Perth. Victory have only lost 2 games this season (once to us, at AAMI, and once to 1st place Perth), so this derby was always going to be a headache. And the injury list, Paartalu, Dugandzic, Velaphi, Garuccio, Brown, Wielaert, and seemingly Mauk, Marino, Germano, is too onerous on a squad with the likes of Ramsay, Redmayne and Murdocca in it. The squad still needs a significant cleanout. I love this bloke. Gotta hand it to you Murf, despite all logocal and statistical evidence you don't bend on your opinions. I like and appreciate stubbornness. Well I guess someone has to balance out the cult-like Anti-JVS brigade. I look forward to seeing the superstardom that Redmayne, Ramsay, Wielaert, Murdocca, Williams, Dugandzic and Germano will go on to achieve once they come across a new coach. The list is shit. But I don't believe that JVS is the man to get the best out of them. Starting Ramsay tonight and then dragging him therefore wasting a sub is simply inexcusable in my book.

Yes yes. It's everyone else's fault. We get it mate

That grey / baby blue one is nice. Where are these at?

would probs get hepatitis. But same...