loriente Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 We lost this completely when engelaar went off imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff for socceroos captain. Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) The hoff is captain of the team!! Go hoff! For the love of God, could MCFC please come in and clean the place out including our resignings. WTF was JVS thinking????? Edited March 28, 2014 by HEARTinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Oh Hoffman, he tries so hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Hoff for socceroos captain.Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! I've just always been realistic and seen him as being not as bad as people make him out to be! Edited March 28, 2014 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chal Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 They just look exhausted. Late in the game and a man up we should be the ones with energy. Very disappointed to see the way they are finishing this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 GUTLESS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 That was crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Hoff as captain #Hoffmiliation Did we have an extra man on the pitch? Where? Very poor second half. Our positioning and short passing is terrible. Our movement off the ball in the second half was poor. Our intensity was poor. Velaphi wasn't great but saw nothing to replace him with Redmayne. Edited March 28, 2014 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff for socceroos captain. Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! I've just always been realistic and seen him as being not as bad as people make him out to be! Are you ready to concede that view after tonight's performance? I mean, a captain shouldn't just be booting the ball out to anywhere and nowhere at the first sign of pressure! His first touch is terrible, he can't cross, his mentality is to first turn around and play it backwards as opposed to continue the attack, I could go on and on where his game lacks a justification for another 2 year extension! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Wow. Just wow. Hang your heads in shame boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 ah well yet another away defeat One away win in over two seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Honestly, what the fcuk is this club going to do to get people to sign up as members for next season??? That was just piss poor and we've resigned some of these clowns. Is JVS having a lend of us by giving the Hoff the captaincy?? Edited March 28, 2014 by HEARTinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 What is it with Heart? We always start and finish seasons terribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 the last 3 games have shown that our mini run was an absolute fluke , tactically clueless ,last 2 games may as well have had Aloisi coaching i cant tell the difference between the players & the tactics , total bull shit ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 This season can't end soon enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Now for AU and WSW. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I have wasted my Friday night with this shit. Could have watched the following and had a lunch better time: - Aussies T20 - Rebels beating the top placed Brumbies - Dons and Hawks flogging it out. - Station close on ABC3 All much more enjoyable and worthy of my time than subjecting myself to the torture of watching the heart dish out that utter shite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I am actually laughing so hard right now, steer the ship captain hoff!!!!!!!!! Let's rename the team Melbourne Titanic, captained by Captain Hoffman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 also had enough of kalmar, he's had 2 seasons now to prove himself and he just frustrates me, no effect on the game. Even if he was on min wage i wouldn't know if i'd want him in the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 On Fox, JVS says most of the current squad will be back next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Vintage heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 On Fox, JVS says most of the current squad will be back next season. ah well lets hope Glory & Nix dont buy anyone good or bottom 2 for us is a shoe in ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Most of this starting 11 will be retained from the sound of it, players like Walker, Mitchinson will be cut loose and replaced, hopefully with some quality. We need a 10 and a 9 most of all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koerner4 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Well that was absolute shit. Same shit, different week. Last 4 games, exact same things. - Can't break opposition down. - When we do get chances, we fuck them up horribly. - Concede cheap goals On a side note, the ref is an absolute spastic. We should've had a pen, Berisha shouldn't have gotten a red. Oh and that clean tackle from Wielaert that got him a yellow card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Hoff for socceroos captain.Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! I've just always been realistic and seen him as being not as bad as people make him out to be!Are you ready to concede that view after tonight's performance? I mean, a captain shouldn't just be booting the ball out to anywhere and nowhere at the first sign of pressure! His first touch is terrible, he can't cross, his mentality is to first turn around and play it backwards as opposed to continue the attack, I could go on and on where his game lacks a justification for another 2 year extension! Ok firstly in all seriousness he is not the true captain, he never was and taking the captaincy arm badge doesn't mean he's going to change his style of play. Secondly I was a bit surprised to see him get a two year extension but it makes sense seeing as we have the salary cap etc. With regards to him passing backwards, I don't know if he's being instructed to do that or not. Maybe he has been instructed to keep possession even if that means keeping possession and passing backwards when the option isn't there. I have always said that he isn't the most potent player going forwards. At training the other day I was on the sideline and Hoffman was doing exactly what he does during the game, looking for an option forward then pass back to weialert when it's not there, and jvs right in front of me complimenting him for the decision. Regarding him booting the ball out, yeah he did do that and possibly had a better option at times. Some of those positions are dangerous to lose the ball in and a cleared ball is sometimes better. However, I hope you pick up on other players in our defence that are much bigger culprits of this. In the end he is a solid right back, not the most potent going forward, but does not make many bad mistakes and as far as I can remember hasn't been a sole contributor to us copping a goal the whole season, which can't be said for any player in our defence but him. And I was never a huge fan and still am not but when I see someone getting abused on here for doing a sound job out there I'm gonna say something. Makes me sound like I'm a fan of his but I'm quite indifferent to him to be honest. Edited March 28, 2014 by n i k o 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Well that was absolute shit. Same shit, different week. Last 4 games, exact same things. - Can't break opposition down. We'd have to pass the ball forward with some ball speed to break the opposition down. We slowed the game down in the front third and passed the ball out of promising positions every time. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 A match of trademark Heart disappointment. - Robbed of a penalty in the very first few minutes - Had enough chances to win the game in the first half, but didn't make the most of a number of good chances. A good reminder that the club released its 3 strikers, and now doesn't have a proper striker - However, unlike the first half of the season (including the first away game to Brisbane under JA), Heart did score a goal in the opening half from 1 of its many chances - There was some good possession, including some impressive quick passing, especially in the first half - But the game changed in the second half. Brisbane lifted their game, and seemed to fight even more when they went down to 10 (like they did against Sydney in Sydney. Brisbane are almost specialists 10 vs 11 now). Also, I really think Heart dropped off when Engelaar was subbed off. I think the team needs big players and/or leaders out there (such as Engelaar or Kewell) to keep the confidence up and play well - Soft defending. Brisbane scored their first goal from a play that originated from a set piece, and scored with their first shot on goal. And painfully the second goal started from a Heart corner and was scored by a decent counter-attack, aided by sloppy Heart defending, that was defending space and not players Losing to Brisbane in Brisbane is not so much a disappointment (even 10 vs 11, as Brisbane have completely outclassed other teams, even when they are away from home, 10 vs 11). The performance, especially in the second half was disappointing. The flaws are becoming obvious now, and Heart need to significantly strengthen in the off-season, with at least several new players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff for socceroos captain. Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! I've just always been realistic and seen him as being not as bad as people make him out to be! Are you ready to concede that view after tonight's performance? I mean, a captain shouldn't just be booting the ball out to anywhere and nowhere at the first sign of pressure! His first touch is terrible, he can't cross, his mentality is to first turn around and play it backwards as opposed to continue the attack, I could go on and on where his game lacks a justification for another 2 year extension! Ok firstly in all seriousness he is not captain, he never was and taking the captaincy arm badge doesn't mean he's going to change his style of play. Secondly I was a bit surprised to see him get a two year extension but it makes sense seeing as we have the salary cap etc. With regards to him passing backwards, I don't know if he's being instructed to do that or not. Maybe he has been instructed to keep possession even if that means keeping possession and passing backwards when the option isn't there. I have always said that he isn't the most potent player going forwards. At training the other day I was on the sideline and Hoffman was doing exactly what he does during the game, looking for an option forward then pass back to weialert when it's not there, and jvs right in front of me complimenting him for the decision. Regarding him booting the ball out, yeah he did do that and possibly had a better option at times. Some of those positions are dangerous to lose the ball in and a cleared ball is sometimes better. However, I hope you pick up on other players in our defence that are much bigger culprits of this. In the end he is a solid right back, not the most potent going forward, but does not make many bad mistakes and as far as I can remember hasn't been a sole contributor to us copping a goal the whole season, which can't be said for any player in our defence but him. And I was never a huge fan and still am not but when I see someone getting abused on here for doing a sound job out there I'm gonna say something. Makes me sound like I'm a fan of his but I'm quite indifferent to him to be honest. Sorry Niko but he's the Broxham v1.0 of Heart (before Ange taught him how to pass the ball forward) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Most of this starting 11 will be retained from the sound of it, players like Walker, Mitchinson will be cut loose and replaced, hopefully with some quality. We need a 10 and a 9 most of all Let's hope the current starting 11 become the second string 11 next season and we get half a dozen new players that can actually trap the ball cleanly and play one touch football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardRed Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Harps got it right "Roar extracted the urine out of the Heart defence" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hoff for socceroos captain. Well you have always been a supporter of the Hoff! I've just always been realistic and seen him as being not as bad as people make him out to be! Are you ready to concede that view after tonight's performance? I mean, a captain shouldn't just be booting the ball out to anywhere and nowhere at the first sign of pressure! His first touch is terrible, he can't cross, his mentality is to first turn around and play it backwards as opposed to continue the attack, I could go on and on where his game lacks a justification for another 2 year extension! Ok firstly in all seriousness he is not captain, he never was and taking the captaincy arm badge doesn't mean he's going to change his style of play. Secondly I was a bit surprised to see him get a two year extension but it makes sense seeing as we have the salary cap etc. With regards to him passing backwards, I don't know if he's being instructed to do that or not. Maybe he has been instructed to keep possession even if that means keeping possession and passing backwards when the option isn't there. I have always said that he isn't the most potent player going forwards. At training the other day I was on the sideline and Hoffman was doing exactly what he does during the game, looking for an option forward then pass back to weialert when it's not there, and jvs right in front of me complimenting him for the decision. Regarding him booting the ball out, yeah he did do that and possibly had a better option at times. Some of those positions are dangerous to lose the ball in and a cleared ball is sometimes better. However, I hope you pick up on other players in our defence that are much bigger culprits of this. In the end he is a solid right back, not the most potent going forward, but does not make many bad mistakes and as far as I can remember hasn't been a sole contributor to us copping a goal the whole season, which can't be said for any player in our defence but him. And I was never a huge fan and still am not but when I see someone getting abused on here for doing a sound job out there I'm gonna say something. Makes me sound like I'm a fan of his but I'm quite indifferent to him to be honest. Sorry Niko but he's the Broxham v1.0 of Heart (before Ange taught him how to pass the ball forward) That's my point I think he's being instructed to pass it backwards if the right option isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 It should also be remembered that for the first half of the season, we all expected and knew that Heart was pretty much going to lose. Under JA, there was nothing but hopelessness. Now under JVS supporters can actually be disappointed when the team loses, even against top teams, even against Brisbane in Brisbane. That's a simple reminder that things have changed. Most of this starting 11 will be retained from the sound of it, players like Walker, Mitchinson will be cut loose and replaced, hopefully with some quality. We need a 10 and a 9 most of all Let's hope the current starting 11 become the second string 11 next season and we get half a dozen new players that can actually trap the ball cleanly and play one touch football. I agree and pretty much expect this is exactly what will happen. Maybe not for all of the players, but I expect that to happen with a lot of the current players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I might elaborate later but 25-30 mins of good football and then 60 mins of shit. The Front 3 where woeful, Aziz is not a central midfielder, Hoffman can't move the ball forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Had to fight the urge to go out into the driveway and burn my scarf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa-Nuevo Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Well Van Shit said he is very happy with the current squad and that they will all be playing next season. What is this dickface watching, he can not honestly think these players are good. They need to get rid of most of these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I didn't even realise Ramsay was playing until he was subbed off. Did he touch the ball? Edited March 28, 2014 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Most of this starting 11 will be retained from the sound of it, players like Walker, Mitchinson will be cut loose and replaced, hopefully with some quality. We need a 10 and a 9 most of all Heart finally with a decent AM, We wouldn't recognize ourselves. That should be our marquee signing of considerable quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I might be way off with this comment but as good as JVS has been for us especially in comparison to the rubbish under JA, it is after losses like these and hearing JVS afterwoods being not too aggitated that I wonder whether he has the grit and hardness to be a silverware winning senior coach. Just pondering and hopefully he'll prove me really wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHTIDALIVE Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Fuck me that was shit AGAIN. Why the hell did give Williams a 2 year contract. Waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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