Peter Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not sure if it has been said before, but as much as I want the new owners to make sweeping changes asap with all aspects of the club, I dont want on any level, the board to make football decisions. We did that once and that was JA. Sure, appoint more in the football department and start searching for a new coach but dont sack and hire players. Because of this, I doubt we will release or sign anyone in the transfer period, because there wont be enough time imo, unless JVS makes the call and probably has an understanding with the new owners that contracts will be paid out if need be. Doesn't sound like any movement happening http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/291824,heart-boss-not-looking-for-reinforcements.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Davutovic doing his live blog thing today at midday, if I can step out of a meeting for a bit, I'll try to tweet him a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 He now says something like "could be a month away." I'm getting sceptical that it's ever going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Reading the blog, He says the sale is still a month or so away but a cleanout will occur of people at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm a little concerned about it now, if its a full take over and clean out... May suggest they will make changes that might change the name, colours or location of the club. I know there is no evidence for that, but a full take over means they could do anything they want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Given that this is another time-frame for it, it leads me to believe that no-one really knows whats going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 ...which basically explains why we're in caretaker mode ATM and most likely until the end of this season. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Given that this is another time-frame for it, it leads me to believe that no-one really knows whats going on. I agree, all looks like speculation to me. This sale may not even be close to happening if at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can fold the club now then if this does not go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can fold the club now then if this does not go ahead. No, what it means is that we as season-ticket-holders and others need to keep the pressure on the club up. OK, so what have we seen since the Munn appeal in November? A rumour about us possibly being sold, Aloisi sacked and Foxe resigned, and a caretaker coach appointed. With 13 matches to go we're wallowing in the mire at the foot of the table, 9 points adrift of Wellington, and 12 of Adelaide. We've seen two more matches with pretty much the same match-day squad that failed in the first 12 matches. And the same results. There's no indication that we will release any of the non-performers and sign someone new, nor even sign a guest player. Absolutely nothing has been communicated to us about about starting the search for a manager for next season and beyond, and that is simply not good enough in terms of the relationship between the club and its supporters. The silence is deafening. I believe (haha!) that we are being fobbed off by this "new owners" stuff. And we've fallen for it. Nothing has changed, and we are being taken for granted. "Fan engagement" at MHFC is complete bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can fold the club now then if this does not go ahead. No, what it means is that we as season-ticket-holders and others need to keep the pressure on the club up. OK, so what have we seen since the Munn appeal in November? A rumour about us possibly being sold, Aloisi sacked and Foxe resigned, and a caretaker coach appointed. With 13 matches to go we're wallowing in the mire at the foot of the table, 9 points adrift of Wellington, and 12 of Adelaide. We've seen two more matches with pretty much the same match-day squad that failed in the first 12 matches. And the same results. There's no indication that we will release any of the non-performers and sign someone new, nor even sign a guest player. Absolutely nothing has been communicated to us about about starting the search for a manager for next season and beyond, and that is simply not good enough in terms of the relationship between the club and its supporters. The silence is deafening. I believe (haha!) that we are being fobbed off by this "new owners" stuff. And we've fallen for it. Nothing has changed, and we are being taken for granted. "Fan engagement" at MHFC is complete bullshit. Are you saying that we are being played just so we attend games so it doesn't look bad on the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm saying that the club owes us a lot more than it's giving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Can fold the club now then if this does not go ahead. No, what it means is that we as season-ticket-holders and others need to keep the pressure on the club up. OK, so what have we seen since the Munn appeal in November? A rumour about us possibly being sold, Aloisi sacked and Foxe resigned, and a caretaker coach appointed. With 13 matches to go we're wallowing in the mire at the foot of the table, 9 points adrift of Wellington, and 12 of Adelaide. We've seen two more matches with pretty much the same match-day squad that failed in the first 12 matches. And the same results. There's no indication that we will release any of the non-performers and sign someone new, nor even sign a guest player. Absolutely nothing has been communicated to us about about starting the search for a manager for next season and beyond, and that is simply not good enough in terms of the relationship between the club and its supporters. The silence is deafening. I believe (haha!) that we are being fobbed off by this "new owners" stuff. And we've fallen for it. Nothing has changed, and we are being taken for granted. "Fan engagement" at MHFC is complete bullshit. We need a large banner that says "SELL THE CLUB TO SOMEONE WHO DEMANDS SUCCESS" and show it prominently every game until the sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I'm saying that the club owes us a lot more than it's giving. Spot on JW. I don't think I'm alone in feeling rather ripped off for the last two seasons. Heart treats our members like rubbish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 we aren't members, we are season ticket holders. The only 'members' of the franchise are the board members. We are members in the same sense that customers of Maccas are members of 'Club Maccas'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Then, as a season ticket holder I feel ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 me too, not because the team is last, because someone has to be, but because they don't have a clue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If there is a delay to the final agreement I think it will be the payout figures of the staff that will be let go being negotiated. Sidwell kept going on about in the JA press conference that they will only sell if the clubs interests were at the heart and that probably means staff like Munn and JD. I hope they keep the new fitness guy Ripamonte, so far he has done terrific work and although some of his tweets make me cringe I hope he is kept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Wow! After reading these comments I have to say that we as supporters can not stop putting pressure on the club. What we have done until now is voice our displeasure at the rubbish the club has served beginning with the JA appointment. Also it's a massive risk if the sale of the club does not eventuate after the Newcastle game this Friday night. As a "season ticket holder" I can say they this potential sale Is the only thing left for me to hang onto. By nature I am a very ambitious person and at the moment the Heart are showing no ambition to achieve anything.. Keep up the pressure on the jokers running the club.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 What a saga ... reminds me of... "...There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing Is it raining, is it snowing Is a hurricane a-blowing Not a speck of light is showing So the danger must be growing Are the fires of Hell a-glowing Is the grisly reaper mowing Yes, the danger must be growing For the rowers keep on rowing And they're certainly not showing Any signs that they are slowing" ... From the one and only Willy Wonka 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So....it's the day after... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So....it's the day after... Woke up thinking the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So....it's the day after... Woke up thinking the same thing Enjoyed the win. Celebrated with mates who have been there from before game one. Woke up this morning and my first thoughts. Let's get this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I don't believe that this is going to happen. Not today. Nor in the immediate future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 So....it's the day after... Woke up thinking the same thing Sounds like an old Blues song Woke up ( this morning ) thinking the same thing I said I Woke up ( this morning ) thinking the same thing Talk of new owners was just a load of bullshitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Davutovic reported yesterday (in the article about Heart's win) that "the imminent sale of the club is also bound to lift morale". Also, Scott Munn told SBS Radio yesterday pre-game that: The board has always said, and our statement made it clear, that we will entertain people that want to grow the club and contribute to football. Some parties haven't put that forward, and so we walked away, and there's a party at the moment that we have talked to and will continue to talk to, and look at the end of the day until the deals done nothing will happen. (https://soundcloud.com/sbsradiosport/melbourne-heart-ceo-scott-munn) Confusingly and rather annoyingly, Munn also said "At the end of the day, we're not for sale. If you look at WSW, they are for sale". But I think that's just spin and misdirection, junk Munn indulges in a lot (especially lately). And sometimes he just speaks pure crap like "we have a fantastic board". As far as I can see, the key words Munn said yesterday were that "the board has always said" that "it will entertain people that want to grow the club". Sidwell and co. are clearly open to selling, but it looks like they don't want to appear eager to sell. Thankfully, I reckon Davutovic knows his stuff, and the sale will be imminent. Edited January 18, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Would have thought the rumour mill would have been slightly more solid if the sale was close to going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 It's not as if Scotty is going to come out and say the board is shit, now is he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Davutovic reported yesterday (in the article about Heart's win) that "the imminent sale of the club is also bound to lift morale". Also, Scott Munn told SBS Radio yesterday pre-game that: The board has always said, and our statement made it clear, that we will entertain people that want to grow the club and contribute to football. Some parties haven't put that forward, and so we walked away, and there's a party at the moment that we have talked to and will continue to talk to, and look at the end of the day until the deals done nothing will happen. (https://soundcloud.com/sbsradiosport/melbourne-heart-ceo-scott-munn) Confusingly and rather annoyingly, Munn also said "At the end of the day, we're not for sale. If you look at WSW, they are for sale". But I think that's just spin and misdirection, junk Munn indulges in a lot (especially lately). And sometimes he just speaks pure crap like "we have a fantastic board". As far as I can see, the key words Munn said yesterday were that "the board has always said" that "it will entertain people that want to grow the club". Sidwell and co. are clearly open to selling, but it looks like they don't want to appear eager to sell. Thankfully, I reckon Davutovic knows his stuff, and the sale will be imminent. So, do we interpret that as indicating that the club is not for sale but that the Board is prepared to take on some additional directors (or some of the existing directors will sell out) taking a stake in the club in order to "grow" it? As far as I can see that's the only way that both of his statements can be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Sidwell did indicate that he had spoken at length off the record to Davutovic so I wouldn't discount his conclusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Davutovic reported yesterday (in the article about Heart's win) that "the imminent sale of the club is also bound to lift morale". Also, Scott Munn told SBS Radio yesterday pre-game that: The board has always said, and our statement made it clear, that we will entertain people that want to grow the club and contribute to football. Some parties haven't put that forward, and so we walked away, and there's a party at the moment that we have talked to and will continue to talk to, and look at the end of the day until the deals done nothing will happen. (https://soundcloud.com/sbsradiosport/melbourne-heart-ceo-scott-munn) Confusingly and rather annoyingly, Munn also said "At the end of the day, we're not for sale. If you look at WSW, they are for sale". But I think that's just spin and misdirection, junk Munn indulges in a lot (especially lately). And sometimes he just speaks pure crap like "we have a fantastic board". As far as I can see, the key words Munn said yesterday were that "the board has always said" that "it will entertain people that want to grow the club". Sidwell and co. are clearly open to selling, but it looks like they don't want to appear eager to sell. Thankfully, I reckon Davutovic knows his stuff, and the sale will be imminent. So, do we interpret that as indicating that the club is not for sale but that the Board is prepared to take on some additional directors (or some of the existing directors will sell out) taking a stake in the club in order to "grow" it? As far as I can see that's the only way that both of his statements can be true. I recall Sidwell saying Heart would consider selling the club completely if they thought it would 'grow' Heart (he even used that word). Like with South Melbourne at the start of the season, it looks like the Heart board are trying to stress that they are not keen to sell the club, either partially or wholly (which makes sense, because if it was known that board members wanted out, then the club could likely be bought for a lower price). I didn't expect Munn to say the board were shit. But calling them 'fantastic' before a match where Heart could have become the league's worst team (in terms of going on the longest winless streak), and when the club tried to give away 1000 tickets to beef up crowd numbers, is delusional. Better not to say anything about the worth and skill of the board. As I said a week or two a go, I reckon we'll next hear about the sale either when it's announced or on the eve of the sale. And I trust Davutovic, who speaks to Sidwell, when he says it'll happen imminently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'd love to know how many Hun readers took up the free offer, the 5000 are really us rusted-on supporters so if things have got so bad that they literally can't give tickets away to watch us then they really must be a fantastic Board 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I sat next to a bloke who got a free ticket. He said he's always had a soft spot for Heart but has never got around to going to a match. I told him he's got to keep coming he's good luck! He had a great time, if even only 100 came from free tickets hopefully they're all converted after that performance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 These comments coming out are far too confusing. The Journalists are all so sure its imminent yet the club keeps coming out with statements that make no sense whatsoever. Might as well say nothing instead of confusing spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I'd love to know how many Hun readers took up the free offer, the 5000 are really us rusted-on supporters so if things have got so bad that they literally can't give tickets away to watch us then they really must be a fantastic Board 5045 attendance = 45 free ticket holders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I dont blame those free ticket holders for not turning up based on the season so far. Hopefully those who did show up enjoyed it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Instead of giving tickets away to Hun readers how about the inept bastards give them away to current fans, or would that make too much sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolo Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Instead of giving tickets away to Hun readers how about the inept bastards give them away to current fans, or would that make too much sense? I would prefer to see 'age' readers in the fans, they tend do have a bit more substance and knowledge as opposed to finding out who is dating who, and whats hot and whats not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Dave Davutovic just said we won't be doing anything this January window despite Dmac leaving as the sale is really close and there is no point. I'm trying to contact a friend who works for the same media and ask him just how close and what's involved. He did state earlier it's a cleanout last time. Movement must be close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Dave Davutovic just said we won't be doing anything this January window despite Dmac leaving as the sale is really close and there is no point.I'm trying to contact a friend who works for the same media and ask him just how close and what's involved. He did state earlier it's a cleanout last time.Movement must be close.Ive thought this all along, there wouldnt be enough time for the new owners to do anything in the transfer period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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