jw1739 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Lol, no source. Was just saying I lol'd about people suggesting that Walker wouldn't get another deal, and everyone else would. I thought you would be smart enough to understand that one, JW.. Now you know that I'm fallible after all. But generally, I think many people misunderstand what the NYL is all about as far as Heart is concerned. It's about selecting players who Heart thinks can take the next step both in their personal development and their football development, not necessarily the players who appear 'best' at the time. Realistically, most will not make the Heart senior squad because there just isn't enough room. I would not want to predict who might make it, but time is on the side of the younger players rather than the older ones. I think Zac Walker is already 20, but whether he's eligible for another NYL season I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 we would be crazy not to take Hernandez, best player ever in this league doubt it would happen though Carlos would not work in our team, he'd be the only player in the tean who wouldn't track back and defend and he'd slow the whole team down in transition with his lack of pace. Could you really see Carlos pressing a defender for 90 minutes to stop them playing out from the back? He's a good player but not for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Ill be pissed if Rogic goes to Victory +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Ruben Zadkovich. Make it happen. Finally a good suggestion. A player that is very good, but also signable and at not too high a wage. (I have assumed that you suggested him because he is out of contract or it looks like he will be let go, otherwise disregard my comments) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Giving you a chance to retract the Kennedy statement before losing all credibility in future posts. I retract nothing about concrete boots just because you wanna give him handies behind the change rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Sarkies > Hernandez Sarkies = Cheaper contract Sarkies = Better Free Kicks Sarkies = More on the pitch Sarkies = Physically fit Sarkies better than Hernandez at freekicks? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think he might just be trying to confuse everybody lucas. His currently worrying about 'credibility' on a forum of all mediums and then following it up with a post like that. Certainly confused the hell out of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I retract nothing about concrete boots just because you wanna give him handies behind the change rooms. Josh Kennedy in the last three seasons in the J League J League: 70- 75 games = 40+ goals One the golden boot in the J League last year Was named in the J League best 11. For Australia Games 24-25 = 15 Goals. Yes, right. Horrible signing he would be. Sarkies better than Hernandez at freekicks? I don't think so. That one is questionable I admit. But every other point is correct to the point where you can see the pattern of Sarkies > Hernandez. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Good to see his keeping up with the minimum output that would be expected from him. Should be 15 goals a season minimum with the beanpole belting up on 5ft nothing midgets. No depth to his game, slow as a snail and poor technique from the shoulders down. Have to agree to disagree on him I think mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 This is the A-League mate, his technical abilities are more than good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax spray and wipe Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Good to see his keeping up with the minimum output that would be expected from him. Should be 15 goals a season minimum with the beanpole belting up on 5ft nothing midgets. No depth to his game, slow as a snail and poor technique from the shoulders down. Have to agree to disagree on him I think mate. J-League>>>>>>>>>>>>A-League in all aspects skill, technical ability, fans etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Josh Kennedy in the last three seasons in the J League J League: 70- 75 games = 40+ goals One the golden boot in the J League last year Was named in the J League best 11. Against 5'4 Jap Defenders. Please no. Would rather an overweight Hernandez then a fully peaking Josh Kennedy. Most overrated hack to come through the system. Don't think I have ever seen him dribble past a defender in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Against 5'4 Jap Defenders. Please no. Would rather an overweight Hernandez then a fully peaking Josh Kennedy. Most overrated hack to come through the system. Don't think I have ever seen him dribble past a defender in my life. Absolutely fucking clueless post. Who are the Asian champions you stupid cunt? Japanese central defenders are all well above 6 ft and are relatively strong. The majority of the goals Kennedy has scored have been with his feet, Nagoya like to keep the ball on the ground, lead by red star legend Pixie. More so it is safe to say that Kennedy has technically improved considerably during his time in Japan. Also Ruben Zadkovich? Are you fucking serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 The majority of the goals Kennedy has scored have been with his feet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysUQj5RDhM 19 goals last season in J-League. Broke down into: Headers - 7 Penalties - 6 Tap Ins (Right place, right time) - 5 Good Goals (Had to beat a defender with the ball) - 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Who are the Asian champions you stupid cunt? Strong discussing of football without resorting to 14 year old name calling. Edited March 9, 2012 by MaliMate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballism Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Josh Kennedy would be a class above any striker in the league in all honesty. His hold up play, as shown in that video, is brilliant, he is obviously very strong in the air and his technical ability is more than good enough for the A-League. It's not his job to go past defenders and he does not need to be very quick. No chance of signing him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 No chance of signing him though. I pray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysUQj5RDhM 19 goals last season in J-League. Broke down into: Headers - 7 Penalties - 6 Tap Ins (Right place, right time) - 5 Good Goals (Had to beat a defender with the ball) - 1 That's a fucking shit meme, you absolute abortion. rofl, look at the fucking stats you provided yourself you catamite, 12 goals out of the 19 weren't headers. Good luck getting out of school mate, you'll be washing my dishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysUQj5RDhM 19 goals last season in J-League. Broke down into: Headers - 7 Penalties - 6 Tap Ins (Right place, right time) - 5 Good Goals (Had to beat a defender with the ball) - 1 Your "Tap In" stat to be your worse stat... its a made up stat no coach would ever look at seriously. Only EPL fan boys write off Tap In's - Tap In's win you leagues, they are worth just as much as a Bicycle Kick from halfway. In fact usually they worth more as if you have a player who mainly scores from a lot of Tap In's rather than by other ways it usually means he is an efficent striker who scores at will... as a Tap is the efficent way of shooting. Look at the highest scoring strikers throughout the game's history and a majority of them scored most of their goals by situations you class as Tap-In's Edited March 9, 2012 by cadete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 look at the fucking stats you provided yourself you catamite, 12 goals out of the 19 weren't headers. 6 goals in outfield play was what I was getting at. You knew that though. Good luck getting out of school mate. 6 subjects left till I have my Accounting Degree. you'll be washing my dishes. Because you'll never have a wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Only EPL fan boys write off Tap In's Not an EPL fan boy so this statement is incorrect. Look at the highest scoring strikers throughout the game's history. That's fine. I'm talking about Josh Kennedy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I've already got a wife mate, ask the others kid. You on the otherhand can do my cunt jobs for cunts eg. Sorting out my tax, washing my dishes etc... Isn't that what you do in accounting? Moving on from this silly silly dickwaving epl fanboy, Adam D'Apuzzo is playing state league, what the fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 You on the otherhand can do my cunt jobs for cunts eg. Sorting out my tax, washing my dishes etc... Isn't that what you do in accounting? Got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 No worries mate, it'll be in the mail, malimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 6 subjects left till I have my Accounting Degree. In that case can u do my tax when your finished? Because anyone that count down a Golden Boot Winners tally down from 19 to 1 real goal I want on my side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 In that case can u do my tax when your finished? Can do right now if you really want me to. Because anyone that count down a Golden Boot Winners tally down from 19 to 1 real goal I want on my side! All I was trying to state is that he is a one dimensional player and his goal tally isn't as flash as it may seem on paper. FFS Afonso Alves scored 34 goals in an Eredivisie season & look at him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Look his not a superstar. However, for the sake of your argument even if he is one dimensional his sufficiently good at his one dimension to be the best striker in the A League. Its undisputable the J League is superior to the A League, and Micha is right about Japanese Defenders not being short – This is a bad outdated stereotype. I have seen the likes of the Celtic Korean players midfielder Ki and defender Cha Du and they were easily amongst the tallest ten players in the squad. Anyone that can score the amount of “Headers” you listed and “Tap In’s” you listed in Japan would if playing CF for us this year probably have us at least at second. Heart has in particular needed a player who can finish in the box since its existence. Edited March 9, 2012 by cadete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Wouldn't be the best striker in the A-League IMO. Berisha, Archie Thompson, Cazarine (I know this selection will be bagged) & Smeltz > Kennedy. For the price we would pay I would rather keep Eli as our sole CF & buy a klarsh defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I agree we should buy an experienced Centre Half before even looking at any other players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Speaking of tap ins Scott McDonald anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 John van 't Schip also urged his club's veteran goalkeeper Clint Bolton not to quit at the end of the campaign. Bolton, Heart's player of the season in its debut A-League year, and a contender for the award again this time, will be 37 when the next A-League season kicks off in October. Heart has signed Brisbane's former custodian Andrew Redmayne to challenge Bolton next season, which has prompted some to wonder whether the Queenslander, who has won championships in both the NSL and the A-League, might give the game away. But van 't Schip yesterday said the ex-Socceroo should not think about quitting. ''I tell every player, as long as you feel good and are happy, continue with playing because it is the most beautiful thing to do,'' he said. The Dutchman said Bolton, who is on a limited training regime after being affected earlier in the season by groin and shoulder concerns, had learnt how to manage his body. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/heart-praying-for-victory-20120308-1un9c.html#ixzz1ob8iuW3l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Love the use of "Beautiful". Would sound wrong from anybody less Sun Blessed than the A League's most Beautiful coach. Edited March 9, 2012 by cadete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Wouldn't be the best striker in the A-League IMO. Berisha, Archie Thompson, Cazarine (I know this selection will be bagged) & Smeltz > Kennedy. 'coz Archie isn't one dimensional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Sorry but anyone who says they wouldnt want kennedy is borderline retarded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I would give him a ring if I was John Didiulica. He could really help Babalj and he would defintely put lots of balls into the back of the net and I can't complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Sorry but anyone who says they wouldnt want kennedy is borderline retarded. Institute me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Let It Be. Kennedy Kennedy Kennedy Oh Kennedy Scoring goals from tap-ins Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 The best part of it all, is that we won't sign him. Ever. :) :) :) :) :) . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 i really doubt Nagoya are going to let the 2 time J-league top scorer and 2 time J-league best 11 striker just leave the club without a big transfer fee. I'm sure Kennedy is getting paid top dollar over in Japan, and we would probably only be able to offer him no more than 300,000 a year. Could only really see him coming to Australia in 3-4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 would prefer to sign a different socceroo, ie Neill or Breciano (Both in a year or two..... they're still earning top dollar in Qatar) but kennedy has a lot of experience which would teach babalj, but not for the same price tag he commands in Japan. not too skillful on the ball either, compared to others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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