dRoy Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 The only link is he came to Australia to play A-League. Dandy is his first stepping stone. I presume he will get a trial with any team. Let's hope it's us. I say that, because if Roganovic can't get a spot on our list. This guy can at least get a trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Sign Flores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartMillsy29 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Sign Flores! Would love but honestly can't see it happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian7 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Peter Sidwell is in Greece looking at a few players, While he is over there he is also in contract talks with Charisteas What im hearing is, its out of Grella or Charisteas for marquee. The club don't want to sign both. The signing of either of the players will be released prior to a friendly match with the opposition being a big Italian club which will be held in late June. Edited May 14, 2012 by christian7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Fuck Grella! Hope Lazio come down, would love to see Klose play! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 hmm in terms of a 'marquee' it would be better to sign Charisteas because he'll get more people through the gates. Grella won't attract to much attention imo, not to mention that he is always injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Fuck Grella! Hope Lazio come down, would love to see Klose play! Whoever it is they won't bring down any big players because of the Euro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Grella can gtfo. absoulte hack that we should steer very clear of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Fuck Grella! Hope Lazio come down, would love to see Klose play! It would most likely been Juve would it not - they were rumoured to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 It would most likely been Juve would it not - they were rumoured to come... Someone's got to beat them, may aswell be us... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo_Melb_Warrior Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Grella fits the description of the type of player Aloisi wants the most. Very interesting. I would personally prefer Charasteas. By a mile. Would bring in the crowds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Charisteas for sure. Membership will go through the roof. Bloody get him. Sick of Victory and Roard getting all the headlines. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 The more I think about it, Grella doesnt look as unlikely as it once did. Wasnt so long ago I would put the odds of him playing in the A-League at about 0.000001%. But given the current economic situation in Europe, Italy isnt as an attractive place to live in as it once was. I doubt he is in particularly high demand after his stint at Blackburn. He is available, home town club calling, with his mate (making an assumption they are mates) managing. Would be a quality signing, a bit concerned about his injury proneness though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo_Melb_Warrior Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I agree Tesla. Think Grella is a possibility more than ever now. What Aloisi said about a midfield enforcer who can break up play and play the ball from defence, I think he was describing Vince Grella if I am honest. It makes perfect sense. Come to think about it, he would be the best Defensive Midfielder in the A League and a midfield built around him, with Fred, Mate, Thompson would be quite devastating. What worries me about Grella is his injury history and how much money he would demand. Whilst being a top class player, he wouldn't put bums on seats for the money he would demand. We have to factor in getting more numbers via a marquee signing. We are not doing well enough off the park to ignore the factor a big name would mean for us. In saying all that I do see the reasoning behind it, and agreed with Aloisi in that we certainly lacked that type of player more than anything else. Having that enforcer in the midfield would protect our back four and also give our attackers more confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingawesomeness Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Why no 7? Or 14. Worm and Ibrahim. Grella - Still not 100% convinced on him. Certainly is a "break up the play" deep lying midfielder, but has played 6 games in the past two years, had some serious injury problems and is going to be 33 when the season starts. Even if we put him on Srhoj's old wage ($200k - which he wouldn't accept, mind you) then that's still a massive gamble. The gamble becomes doubled when you factor in that crowds won't come to see someone who hasn't been in the Socceroos squad for years and isn't a big name (Bresc is a name simply due to the goal against Uruguay and that celebration). Charisteas - Ok, so I definitely get the crowd drawing power, but is he really a striker that we'd want? Yes, he scored that goal against Portugal, but since 2009 he hasn't been playing or, more importantly, scoring very much. I'm certainly not trying to say that he's "not good enough" for the club, because that's a wank. What I'm asking is whether or not the amount of money we'd have to spend on him would justify the potential return. GolGol - He's Kamal v2.0. Whatever. Christian7 - You've made a lot of huge calls over the past couple of months, and there's a lot of them that haven't come to anything as yet. There's going to come a point in time when you'll need to either spill your source to prove that you're not just making things up or regulate exactly what you're putting up on here, because you will lose a lot of face otherwise. Maybe even tag things as rumours, because the way you're saying things is that they're happening right now behind the scenes, yet very little has come to light. tl;dr - I'm not convinced on players that we're linked to... or Christian7. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 GolGol - He's Kamal v2.0. Whatever. In b4 someone says this is racist. Christian7 - You've made a lot of huge calls over the past couple of months, and there's a lot of them that haven't come to anything as yet. There's going to come a point in time when you'll need to either spill your source to prove that you're not just making things up or regulate exactly what you're putting up on here Yeah, I stated this previously, still he deserves the benefit of the doubt, most of his predictions seem to be about Hernandez signing. Hernandez and one of Charisteas or Grella, would be a strong squad if Christian7 is correct. Lets hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Charisteas - Ok, so I definitely get the crowd drawing power, but is he really a striker that we'd want? Yes, he scored that goal against Portugal, but since 2009 he hasn't been playing or, more importantly, scoring very much. I'm certainly not trying to say that he's "not good enough" for the club, because that's a wank. What I'm asking is whether or not the amount of money we'd have to spend on him would justify the potential return. Would be cheaper than grella IMO The last club he played for in the greek super league got relegated, and i doubt that club would have been paying him more than 200k a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Worm and Ibrahim. Wasn't referring to the number on their shirt. Just the number on the list forbze supplied. It wasn't in any jersey number order. Just counting the players. He missed 2 players. Worm & Ibrahim are not the players he missed. We aren't thinking of signing them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 putting aside the fact i really don't think Hernandez will sign with us... can we actually afford his wages? 150k is what his been offered at the victory.. can we better that? we have 500k to work with iirc, are we gonna waste probably half of that on 1 player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 putting aside the fact i really don't think Hernandez will sign with us... can we actually afford his wages? 150k is what his been offered at the victory.. can we better that? we have 500k to work with iirc, are we gonna waste probably half of that on 1 player? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I don't want any victory players and certainly not that c**t Hernandez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Grella - Still not 100% convinced on him. Certainly is a "break up the play" deep lying midfielder, but has played 6 games in the past two years, had some serious injury problems and is going to be 33 when the season starts. Even if we put him on Srhoj's old wage ($200k - which he wouldn't accept, mind you) then that's still a massive gamble. The gamble becomes doubled when you factor in that crowds won't come to see someone who hasn't been in the Socceroos squad for years and isn't a big name (Bresc is a name simply due to the goal against Uruguay and that celebration). Charisteas - Ok, so I definitely get the crowd drawing power, but is he really a striker that we'd want? Yes, he scored that goal against Portugal, but since 2009 he hasn't been playing or, more importantly, scoring very much. I'm certainly not trying to say that he's "not good enough" for the club, because that's a wank. What I'm asking is whether or not the amount of money we'd have to spend on him would justify the potential return. GolGol - He's Kamal v2.0. Whatever. Christian7 - You've made a lot of huge calls over the past couple of months, and there's a lot of them that haven't come to anything as yet. There's going to come a point in time when you'll need to either spill your source to prove that you're not just making things up or regulate exactly what you're putting up on here, because you will lose a lot of face otherwise. Maybe even tag things as rumours, because the way you're saying things is that they're happening right now behind the scenes, yet very little has come to light. tl;dr - I'm not convinced on players that we're linked to... or Christian7. Right on KA. All too much rumour and speculation. The only new player we've actually signed for next season is Andrew Redmayne, back in January, and that came completely out of the blue. Club definitely plays its cards close to its chest - it has to, because everyone else is chasing players as well. So, other than some loose lips, or an ill-advised tweet somewhere, believe nothing unless and until it is confirmed officially by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 fucken rofffff will kill myself if we sign grella, shroj pls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian7 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 It's a long off season. all my predictions won't happen over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 But are your predictions RWU endorsed??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have a great respect for Grella, do not know about injury concern's. I would be excited if we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 pre-season starts in june and scott munn said we would sign at least 5 players by the start of pre-season, so does that mean we'll have 5 players signed in the next 15 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 fucken rofffff will kill myself if we sign grella, shroj pls. Now I really want us to sign Grella. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I don't want any victory players Not a Fred fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I don't want any victory players and certainly not that c**t Hernandez imagine scores are level in the derby, 93rd minute, we have a free kick just outside the box with the victory supporters behind that goal and hernandez steps up and hits a rocket into the top left corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Not a Fred fan? Or even Dugandzic or Behich? Pretty much our 3 best players. Seems to me we are doing pretty good with them ex-Victory players. Too bad for Victory that they couldnt get the best out of them (except for maybe Fred). Edited May 15, 2012 by Tesla 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 pre-season starts in june and scott munn said we would sign at least 5 players by the start of pre-season, so does that mean we'll have 5 players signed in the next 15 days? If you believe what he said, yes, it means that. In addition it looks as though he's also looking for an Assistant Coach and an NYL Coach. So it's certainly going to be busy times at Heart HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartMillsy29 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 imagine scores are level in the derby, 93rd minute, we have a free kick just outside the box with the victory supporters behind that goal and hernandez steps up and hits a rocket into the top left corner How amazing would that be, just imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not a Fred fan? Or even Dugandzic or Behich? Pretty much our 3 best players. Seems to me we are doing pretty good with them ex-Victory players. Too bad for Victory that they couldnt get the best out of them (except for maybe Fred). I can forgive the signing of Dugandzic and Behich- they are local lads... but... (I am probably going to get shot down for this, but eh...) TBH I was pretty embarrassed when we signed Fred. He is a fantastic player dont get me wrong, but we go out saying "we are going to forge our own name" and insist we are not trying to poach Victory fans, etc but then sign someone who was a massive part of Victory's success? Then to back that up with signing Hernandez (someone who has scored against us in the derby) would just sickening personally. Surely we can find our own gems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I can forgive the signing of Dugandzic and Behich- they are local lads... but... (I am probably going to get shot down for this, but eh...) TBH I was pretty embarrassed when we signed Fred. He is a fantastic player dont get me wrong, but we go out saying "we are going to forge our own name" and insist we are not trying to poach Victory fans, etc but then sign someone who was a massive part of Victory's success? Then to back that up with signing Hernandez (someone who has scored against us in the derby) would just sickening personally. Surely we can find our own gems. i agree.... surely there's someone else out there who's 25-29 and is an Attacking Mid who hasnt played for Mongs FC. Still very happy when we signed Fred, and would take him again if i had the choice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 anyone concerned at the possibility of Western Sydney trying to poach our players when they get a coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 anyone concerned at the possibility of Western Sydney trying to poach our players when they get a coach? if any of our players were under contract we can keep them. however if one of our players want to leave its likely we'll let them go because who wants one of their players playing for them if they dont want to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 if any of our players were under contract we can keep them. however if one of our players want to leave its likely we'll let them go because who wants one of their players playing for them if they dont want to? well our club has always released players from their contracts if they say they want to leave. Western Sydney have a full roster and full salary cap to work with, so if they offer, for example Brendan Hamill double his wages, a player like him might consider a move there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 well our club has always released players from their contracts if they say they want to leave. Western Sydney have a full roster and full salary cap to work with, so if they offer, for example Brendan Hamill double his wages, a player like him might consider a move there. trueee...... but i would say they would be looking at more experienced players.... i dont know why, just got a feeling. i think they'll be more inclined to grow their own youth. they would be more interested in Colossimo or Thompson IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 well our club has always released players from their contracts if they say they want to leave. Western Sydney have a full roster and full salary cap to work with, so if they offer, for example Brendan Hamill double his wages, a player like him might consider a move there. Well, we have so far. But I think there's a limit to this, otherwise we end up as the club, or a club, that has to go about finding and signing almost a full squad again. Of last year's squad we told Worm, Terra, Sarkies, Taseski, Ibrahim, Maycon and Roganovic they were no longer required. Zahra asked to be released to join Perth (and TBH I suspect that we were only too happy for this to happen), and Srhoj has apparently decided not to accept our offer to re-sign. In total that's a fair turnover. We failed to keep Goodwin and were knocked back by Halloran, so it's not proving easy to make new signings and so I can't see us readily letting anyone else go, especially a younger player. I've often wondered why the A-League doesn't allow an optional transfer fee - say, up to the basic PFA wage ($47,000) where releases involve a player still under contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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