zebra22 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 i think we can win this, but they get Burns back and Smeltz. the question is whether we can contain smeltz, if we can then we may take this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 was in there few weeks back $8.90 pint of Carlton Cold which isn't the best ,same pint in Wheelbarrow was $11, maybe its not cheaper for everybody Mid-strength before football? Bad enough that's all you can drink once your in the gates. Load up early mate. It's shit, but it aint mid strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Carlton Cold has been dropped to 3.5% about 3 months ago now. Taken away the one thing that made it acceptable to drink. I.E cheap to get pissed on. I manage a pub so can trust me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballism Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 At the elephant and wheelbarrow now, where is everyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 im at work ,Wheelbarrow is for the purple flogs , go the Brass Monkey people get there around 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I have a feeling we could win, draw or lose this. Gonna put a cheeky five on all three options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Shane Smeltz in isnt good news, hopefully he is a bit ring rusty or breaks his leg in the warm up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 At the elephant and wheelbarrow now, where is everyone? Im the overweight middleaged guy in purple with an English accent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Surely Garuccio deserves at least 20-30 minutes today? Look for Kewell to be subbed off around 60 min mark, no way he's running out the game in the heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 At the elephant and wheelbarrow now, where is everyone? Im the overweight middleaged guy in purple with an English accent. be a few of them in Red tonite too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 How hot is it over there at the moment? I hear 45deg tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 33 now iphone app reckons 28 at kick off not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Surely you have Kalmar and Murdocca the wrong way round in that formation? I'd probs drop Walker and Ramsay from the squad. Don't need cover for right back when Gerhardt can be moved there or to DM if needed and Kisnorbo slot into his CB spot. Nope, I don't. Last game against the Mariners Murdocca was higher up the pitch than Kalmar for effectively the whole game. On a few occasions Murdocca dropped deep to play alongside Kalmar, but Kalmar was effectively our lone DM for most of the game. And this midfield worked pretty well, and both Kalmar and Murdocca had pretty good games IMO. I'm not sure I fully understand why JVS employed this midfield, but I think one of the main advantages of it is that Murdocca's intensity can be put to work in our opponents half, increasing the chances of us winning the ball in our opponents half. Having watched some of that game again, I think a significant amount of CCM's sloppy possession and turnovers can be attributed to Murdocca playing higher up the pitch, working hard to win the ball and effectively marking our opponents' DM. I also think Heart need a largely settled and unchanged lineup to improve the possession game that JVS wants the team to play, so that's why I'd like to see Kalmar and Murdocca play in similar positions again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Also thought gerhardt pushed up a little to help kalmar defensively as he issnt very strong at defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Thought defensively we were good last week. Going forward is where our issues are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartofmelbourne12 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Garrucio not playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Surely you have Kalmar and Murdocca the wrong way round in that formation? I'd probs drop Walker and Ramsay from the squad. Don't need cover for right back when Gerhardt can be moved there or to DM if needed and Kisnorbo slot into his CB spot. Nope, I don't. Last game against the Mariners Murdocca was higher up the pitch than Kalmar for effectively the whole game. On a few occasions Murdocca dropped deep to play alongside Kalmar, but Kalmar was effectively our lone DM for most of the game. And this midfield worked pretty well, and both Kalmar and Murdocca had pretty good games IMO. I'm not sure I fully understand why JVS employed this midfield, but I think one of the main advantages of it is that Murdocca's intensity can be put to work in our opponents half, increasing the chances of us winning the ball in our opponents half. Having watched some of that game again, I think a significant amount of CCM's sloppy possession and turnovers can be attributed to Murdocca playing higher up the pitch, working hard to win the ball and effectively marking our opponents' DM. I also think Heart need a largely settled and unchanged lineup to improve the possession game that JVS wants the team to play, so that's why I'd like to see Kalmar and Murdocca play in similar positions again. This is something I didn't understand with JA. If he had a particular game plan and was going to utilise a big a guy like engelaar as a defensive mid, kalmar is also a big guy, why not play him also as a defensive mid, similar role to what engelaar would play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Garrucio not playing Dw Ramsay is playing. We got this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartofmelbourne12 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves the club soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 According to the team sheet we're starting 12 on the pitch today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 According to the team sheet we're starting 12 on the pitch today. we'd still lose rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 According to the team sheet we're starting 12 on the pitch today. better chance of a win then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Adrian Zahra starting for Perth, one of the few ex-players who I feel no ill feeling when lining up against us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Pissed off walker or garuccio arnt even on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Surely you have Kalmar and Murdocca the wrong way round in that formation? I'd probs drop Walker and Ramsay from the squad. Don't need cover for right back when Gerhardt can be moved there or to DM if needed and Kisnorbo slot into his CB spot. Nope, I don't. Last game against the Mariners Murdocca was higher up the pitch than Kalmar for effectively the whole game. On a few occasions Murdocca dropped deep to play alongside Kalmar, but Kalmar was effectively our lone DM for most of the game. And this midfield worked pretty well, and both Kalmar and Murdocca had pretty good games IMO. I'm not sure I fully understand why JVS employed this midfield, but I think one of the main advantages of it is that Murdocca's intensity can be put to work in our opponents half, increasing the chances of us winning the ball in our opponents half. Having watched some of that game again, I think a significant amount of CCM's sloppy possession and turnovers can be attributed to Murdocca playing higher up the pitch, working hard to win the ball and effectively marking our opponents' DM. I also think Heart need a largely settled and unchanged lineup to improve the possession game that JVS wants the team to play, so that's why I'd like to see Kalmar and Murdocca play in similar positions again. This is something I didn't understand with JA. If he had a particular game plan and was going to utilise a big a guy like engelaar as a defensive mid, kalmar is also a big guy, why not play him also as a defensive mid, similar role to what engelaar would play. I'm still sceptical JA had a gameplan. Kalmar is offensively a solid DM. He's as good with the ball as Murdocca is, and also equally good at passing (Kalmar might even be a slightly better passer IMO). His defensive abilities have always been the issue, and he was good enough last round. I'm just glad we're playing a competent midfield with Kalmar, Murdocca and Kewell all on the pitch at once. Hopefully they get better as they are all now playing regularly together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Same starting XI as last week according to Fox Sports, presumably in the same formation: Redmayne Hoffman Wielaert Gerhardt Behich Kalmar Dugandzic Ramsay Murdocca Mifsud Kewell BENCH Velaphi Kisnorbo Macallister Williams Migliorini Edited January 10, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 on paper not a bad side really ,shame we dont play on paper lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Pissed off walker or garuccio arnt even on the bench I'm annoyed as well. But I'm more annoyed at Aloisi. Should have played Mauk for a least a few games when Kewell and Kalmar were both injured (he may not get many chances to play now that he's in the U22 team). And the same is true of practically all our young players, who Aloisi went out of his way not to play (like Gerhardt at RB, WTH!?). Macallister and Williams better stand up.in this game and play well if they get subbed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Surely you have Kalmar and Murdocca the wrong way round in that formation? I'd probs drop Walker and Ramsay from the squad. Don't need cover for right back when Gerhardt can be moved there or to DM if needed and Kisnorbo slot into his CB spot. Nope, I don't. Last game against the Mariners Murdocca was higher up the pitch than Kalmar for effectively the whole game. On a few occasions Murdocca dropped deep to play alongside Kalmar, but Kalmar was effectively our lone DM for most of the game. And this midfield worked pretty well, and both Kalmar and Murdocca had pretty good games IMO. I'm not sure I fully understand why JVS employed this midfield, but I think one of the main advantages of it is that Murdocca's intensity can be put to work in our opponents half, increasing the chances of us winning the ball in our opponents half. Having watched some of that game again, I think a significant amount of CCM's sloppy possession and turnovers can be attributed to Murdocca playing higher up the pitch, working hard to win the ball and effectively marking our opponents' DM. I also think Heart need a largely settled and unchanged lineup to improve the possession game that JVS wants the team to play, so that's why I'd like to see Kalmar and Murdocca play in similar positions again. This is something I didn't understand with JA. If he had a particular game plan and was going to utilise a big a guy like engelaar as a defensive mid, kalmar is also a big guy, why not play him also as a defensive mid, similar role to what engelaar would play. I'm still sceptical JA had a gameplan. Kalmar is offensively a solid DM. He's as good with the ball as Murdocca is, and also equally good at passing (Kalmar might even be a slightly better passer IMO). His defensive abilities have always been the issue, and he was good enough last round. I'm just glad we're playing a competent midfield with Kalmar, Murdocca and Kewell all on the pitch at once. Hopefully they get better as they are all now playing regularly together. I was expecting someone to say that about JA not having a gameplay haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Pissed off walker or garuccio arnt even on the bench and yet you have duds like Williams, Ramsay and Mifsud playing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 First win for ages? Come on Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHeart Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Come on Heart !! Let's win one !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Smeltz will kill us when he comes on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 If we had Babalj up front instead of Mifspud we'd be banging them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 lol Mifsud offside inside a minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Offside lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Shit, we're actually looking OK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Ah Mifsud, surely least time for an offside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Shit, we're actually looking OK! Don't judge after 30 seconds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbournehammer Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Seriously is it too much to ask miscue to look for the ball to feet instead of looking for a through ball every single time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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