HeartinHobart Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm presuming Simon Colosimo's last tweet was directed to exactly this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Cannot say I've ever been more disappointed with Scott munn than I am now. Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredinho69 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Poor form by Munn as stated above lead by example. We've won one game and this kent probably thinks now his shit doesn't stink. We've got a long way to go before we can start talking shit to any other teams imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Poor form by Munn as stated above lead by example. We've won one game and this kent probably thinks now his shit doesn't stink. We've got a long way to go before we can start talking shit to any other teams imo. More likely a case of on the way out and not pulling any punches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Just wondering if anyone knows is George connected in any way to south melbourne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Polak Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) He's only heavily connected with mazenod united from what I know Edited January 18, 2014 by Young Polak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 The saddest part of the little saga is that it made it onto the Herald Sun website as "news" I guess that's what happens when you don't have any 'soccer hooligan' stories to run. I'm surprised they didn't have a heading like: 'Angry soccer fans launch personal attacks on twitter' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_terra_11 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's only heavily connected with mazenod united from what I know His face, along with the club, are all over the school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Polak Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 As a former student I do go to some matches and he is usually there and he's all over the advertisements for the club and I think he's in the committee as well but I'm not sure what its like now inside the school. Let's move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Poor form by Munn as stated above lead by example. We've won one game and this kent probably thinks now his shit doesn't stink. We've got a long way to go before we can start talking shit to any other teams imo. More likely a case of on the way out and not pulling any punches Well and good but it does our club no favors. Very unprofessional and just disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Banter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Banter. Shit banter. Stupid banter. Not needed banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I can't see how this is anything but funny 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I'd be a lot more upset if munn was giving it out while sitting on top beating everyone. Nothing better than being a little cheeky when down. Pisses your rival off more. If I wanted to be surrounded by boring stale farts I would of joined a book club !! At least he has a little fire in the belly still !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ando Posted January 19, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Banter. Shit banter. Stupid banter. Not needed banter. Mate, we've copped banter from the Vuck since day one. Geoff Lord was well known for agitating against us. Fuck them, it's good to see Scotty give it back a little. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) Banter. Shit banter. Stupid banter. Not needed banter. Mate, we've copped banter from the Vuck since day one. Geoff Lord was well known for agitating against us. Fuck them, it's good to see Scotty give it back a little. I don't mind a bit of bants either, it builds rivalry. We need more people at our club wanting to stick up for our club and feeling part of the club, not just people who work there and couldn't really care about the club. That being said I still don't know how the fuck it is news worthy! Edited January 19, 2014 by malloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I'd be a lot more upset if munn was giving it out while sitting on top beating everyone. Nothing better than being a little cheeky when down. Pisses your rival off more. The problem with that theory: Do you reckon he would have done it if we'd lost on Friday night? No way known... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. We remain stagnate as the only team to not have a shot at making finals. Too much of this shit from our club not enough doing things to improve. It's fucking stupid. Childish shit that does nothing for us. Victory are just another club. Stop piss farting around worrying about them. I don't give a shit what they do. I worry about what we are doing. I suggest Scott should do the same whilst he remains CEO. Victory, Adelaide, Sydney, Wanderers, I hate them all. The more he continues this crap against Victory the more it looks like we are only here to spite them. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. Too bad I'm over my quota of 'likes' for the day, because I couldn't agree more with this. Just sent this email to the club; wonder if I'll get a response. Dear Scott Munn, Thank you very much for managing to take the gloss off the only bit of true joy the club you're supposed to be running has given me and my fellow members in nearly 11 months in less than 24 hours, by trying to start an infantile spat on Twitter with a Victory supporter. If one of our players did something similar, I would expect you to be publicly condemning the behaviour, not engaging in it yourself. You're supposed to be the CEO. Can you imagine someone like Gary Pert, or Brian Cook doing something similar? Yet, here you are, the CEO of a club that is three games and 15 goals clear in last place, acting like an immature smart alec, presumably because the club managed to avoid outright ownership of the all-time league record for on-field incompetence. You represent me and every other supporter and I am absolutely staggered that you are not above this. I've been a member for two years and my decision to sign on for a third will depend solely on whether the club can rise above the utter laughing stock it has become in that time. Let's just say that your actions don't help. The times that I've walked out of AAMI Park happy over the past 18 months are probably outnumbered 1-5 to the times I've walked out wondering why I bother wasting my time and money. I could go on, but really it comes down to four words: pull your head in. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Faaaaaaaark. I thought my sunday was slow !! Everyone, just enjoy the weekend. It's a non-issue. It's a nice day, go enjoy the beach, go fishing, go for a walk, play with your kids, or even go to a strip club. Enjoy the win and just chill the fuck out !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerou812 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. Too bad I'm over my quota of 'likes' for the day, because I couldn't agree more with this. Just sent this email to the club; wonder if I'll get a response. Dear Scott Munn, Thank you very much for managing to take the gloss off the only bit of true joy the club you're supposed to be running has given me and my fellow members in nearly 11 months in less than 24 hours, by trying to start an infantile spat on Twitter with a Victory supporter. If one of our players did something similar, I would expect you to be publicly condemning the behaviour, not engaging in it yourself. You're supposed to be the CEO. Can you imagine someone like Gary Pert, or Brian Cook doing something similar? Yet, here you are, the CEO of a club that is three games and 15 goals clear in last place, acting like an immature smart alec, presumably because the club managed to avoid outright ownership of the all-time league record for on-field incompetence. You represent me and every other supporter and I am absolutely staggered that you are not above this. I've been a member for two years and my decision to sign on for a third will depend solely on whether the club can rise above the utter laughing stock it has become in that time. Let's just say that your actions don't help. The times that I've walked out of AAMI Park happy over the past 18 months are probably outnumbered 1-5 to the times I've walked out wondering why I bother wasting my time and money. I could go on, but really it comes down to four words: pull your head in. I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. Too bad I'm over my quota of 'likes' for the day, because I couldn't agree more with this. Just sent this email to the club; wonder if I'll get a response. Dear Scott Munn, Thank you very much for managing to take the gloss off the only bit of true joy the club you're supposed to be running has given me and my fellow members in nearly 11 months in less than 24 hours, by trying to start an infantile spat on Twitter with a Victory supporter. If one of our players did something similar, I would expect you to be publicly condemning the behaviour, not engaging in it yourself. You're supposed to be the CEO. Can you imagine someone like Gary Pert, or Brian Cook doing something similar? Yet, here you are, the CEO of a club that is three games and 15 goals clear in last place, acting like an immature smart alec, presumably because the club managed to avoid outright ownership of the all-time league record for on-field incompetence. You represent me and every other supporter and I am absolutely staggered that you are not above this. I've been a member for two years and my decision to sign on for a third will depend solely on whether the club can rise above the utter laughing stock it has become in that time. Let's just say that your actions don't help. The times that I've walked out of AAMI Park happy over the past 18 months are probably outnumbered 1-5 to the times I've walked out wondering why I bother wasting my time and money. I could go on, but really it comes down to four words: pull your head in. Well done for going to the effort, well written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Faaaaaaaark. I thought my sunday was slow !! Everyone, just enjoy the weekend. It's a non-issue. It's a nice day, go enjoy the beach, go fishing, go for a walk, play with your kids, or even go to a strip club. Enjoy the win and just chill the fuck out !! Strippers it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Except, of course, I represent only myself, while Scott Munn is running the show at (and is therefore the figurehead of) a professional sporting club. So there's that... Edited January 19, 2014 by SF33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerou812 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Except, of course, I represent only myself, while Scott Munn is running the show at (and is therefore the figurehead of) a professional sporting club. So there's that... Having a bit of banter with someone who gives it him. Wow the way you and some other's on here are carrying on I thought he had killed someone. He didn't say anything racist etc so really who cares. Still a non issue for me and hardly letter worthy, but hey what ever rocks your boat. Have you thought about mediation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Should've ripped into that cravat wearing cock pilot Matt Preston while he was at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Except, of course, I represent only myself, while Scott Munn is running the show at (and is therefore the figurehead of) a professional sporting club. So there's that... Having a bit of banter with someone who gives it him. Wow the way you and some other's on here are carrying on I thought he had killed someone. He didn't say anything racist etc so really who cares. Still a non issue for me and hardly letter worthy, but hey what ever rocks your boat. Have you thought about mediation? I'd rather he said something racist to be perfectly honest. At least he'd get in trouble for it and it wouldn't embarrass the club too much. This makes you want to go back into hiding as supporter again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Except, of course, I represent only myself, while Scott Munn is running the show at (and is therefore the figurehead of) a professional sporting club. So there's that... Having a bit of banter with someone who gives it him. Wow the way you and some other's on here are carrying on I thought he had killed someone. He didn't say anything racist etc so really who cares. Still a non issue for me and hardly letter worthy, but hey what ever rocks your boat. Have you thought about mediation? I'd rather he said something racist to be perfectly honest. At least he'd get in trouble for it and it wouldn't embarrass the club too much. This makes ZERO sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I don't know what to say about this. The mind boggles. Talk about mountains out of moles hills. This is more embarrassing than anything Mr Munn has done. Well done. Except, of course, I represent only myself, while Scott Munn is running the show at (and is therefore the figurehead of) a professional sporting club. So there's that... Having a bit of banter with someone who gives it him. Wow the way you and some other's on here are carrying on I thought he had killed someone. He didn't say anything racist etc so really who cares. Still a non issue for me and hardly letter worthy, but hey what ever rocks your boat. Have you thought about mediation? I'd rather he said something racist to be perfectly honest. At least he'd get in trouble for it and it wouldn't embarrass the club too much. This makes you want to go back into hiding as supporter again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Maybe Scott Munn shouldn't have sent that initial tweet. But if Calombaris had of just replied with something like 'haha, see you at the derby' or similar, I doubt anyone would have given this whole thing a second thought. Calombaris' replies were kind of excessive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart4Life Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. Too bad I'm over my quota of 'likes' for the day, because I couldn't agree more with this. Just sent this email to the club; wonder if I'll get a response.Dear Scott Munn,Thank you very much for managing to take the gloss off the only bit of true joy the club you're supposed to be running has given me and my fellow members in nearly 11 months in less than 24 hours, by trying to start an infantile spat on Twitter with a Victory supporter.If one of our players did something similar, I would expect you to be publicly condemning the behaviour, not engaging in it yourself. You're supposed to be the CEO. Can you imagine someone like Gary Pert, or Brian Cook doing something similar? Yet, here you are, the CEO of a club that is three games and 15 goals clear in last place, acting like an immature smart alec, presumably because the club managed to avoid outright ownership of the all-time league record for on-field incompetence.You represent me and every other supporter and I am absolutely staggered that you are not above this. I've been a member for two years and my decision to sign on for a third will depend solely on whether the club can rise above the utter laughing stock it has become in that time. Let's just say that your actions don't help. The times that I've walked out of AAMI Park happy over the past 18 months are probably outnumbered 1-5 to the times I've walked out wondering why I bother wasting my time and money.I could go on, but really it comes down to four words: pull your head in. Pull your head out of your ass ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Bozza re Munn "like everyone he is entitled to his opinion but as we have seen its not always an educated one" Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Bozza's a twat. Vuck lost 5-0, who cares what position we're in. SF33 - what a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) who cares what position we're in. I do *However, I do agree that a lengthy letter to the club is hilariously over the top Edited January 19, 2014 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 What was the point in sticking up for the club then, I don't understand? Their 5 nil loss had absolutely nothing to do with us. Zilch. What banter? The moment Munn and whoever stops worrying about Victory and worries about our state the better. If someone from that club has a go at us then have a go back, I'd admire that but to antagonize out of nothing was a very stupid move. I was astounded how someone who is running the worst sporting organization in Australia could have a go. Absolutely astounded. He should be ashamed of where we are and not gloat about that mob who despite being top 4 are about to sign another gun and want to improve. Focus on us Mr CEO and make us the best team. Then gloat. Until then, cut the crap. It's embarrassing. Scott has done a lot right and he is a terrific bloke who I have had a lot to do with particularly early on, my issue is results and him having his time. As a person you won't find better but unfortunately all I want is success and the results on the park and in terms of members, fans and interest the club has failed. I think we need someone with new ideas and more knowhow. This kinda stuff confirm it all for me. Too bad I'm over my quota of 'likes' for the day, because I couldn't agree more with this. Just sent this email to the club; wonder if I'll get a response. Dear Scott Munn, Thank you very much for managing to take the gloss off the only bit of true joy the club you're supposed to be running has given me and my fellow members in nearly 11 months in less than 24 hours, by trying to start an infantile spat on Twitter with a Victory supporter. If one of our players did something similar, I would expect you to be publicly condemning the behaviour, not engaging in it yourself. You're supposed to be the CEO. Can you imagine someone like Gary Pert, or Brian Cook doing something similar? Yet, here you are, the CEO of a club that is three games and 15 goals clear in last place, acting like an immature smart alec, presumably because the club managed to avoid outright ownership of the all-time league record for on-field incompetence. You represent me and every other supporter and I am absolutely staggered that you are not above this. I've been a member for two years and my decision to sign on for a third will depend solely on whether the club can rise above the utter laughing stock it has become in that time. Let's just say that your actions don't help. The times that I've walked out of AAMI Park happy over the past 18 months are probably outnumbered 1-5 to the times I've walked out wondering why I bother wasting my time and money. I could go on, but really it comes down to four words: pull your head in. Fucking lol mate look, i believe that he shouldn't of done it, but is it really worth losing your shit over? It wasn't even that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Fucking lol mate look, i believe that he shouldn't of done it, but is it really worth losing your shit over? It wasn't even that bad. It literally took me about five minutes to write, if that. And yes, I think it is worth letting him know that it makes him look like a pissant CEO of a pissant club. That he is directly embarrassing me to be associated with him, as the Heart CEO. Yep worthwhile, as far as I'm concerned. I've been a member of countless sporting clubs for the past 10-15 years and I've never felt the need to take such action in the past. I wonder what the fallout would have been if Harry Kewell had done the same, which seems to be pretty much what Simon Colosimo was getting at with his response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I do *However, I do agree that a lengthy letter to the club is hilariously over the top The 160-character crowd may disagree, but 250 words isn't exactly a 'lengthy letter'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 (edited) I've been a member of countless sporting clubs for the past 10-15 years and I've never felt the need to take such action in the past. You must support some amazing clubs if thats the worst thing thats happened in 15 years. Edited January 19, 2014 by hedaik 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 You must support some amazing clubs if thats the worst thing thats happened in 15 years. Not the 'worst', by any stretch. But up there with the 'dumbest'/'most unnecessary'? Without a doubt. And as for 'dumbest'/'most unnecessary' from someone in as senior a position at a sporting organisation as the CEO/Chairman/President in a public forum? Well, I can't think of anything that even comes close, off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Big whoop mate it was just a bit of banter and niggle between a couple of idiots , don't bother wasting your breath about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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