Grimey Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 If he was contracted until the end of next season, that 400k figure is an absolute pisstake. So much potential in him. Am very confident he will have made the NT LB spot his own come Brazil. I fear this deal will be the landmark moment in our clubs short history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just need to back cadete up here. While I dont think he is utter garbage I dont think he is as amazing as people make out. Yes he does seem to have a lot more potential in him but does not seem to be improving at heart. To develop further i think this is the right move. Great guy and bleeds for the club and all but I think the price tag sounds about right for where he is at. As for being a socceroo I think that says more about the current level of our national squad than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozza Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 That is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. For Behich, I just can't see the logic. Wait. We may be $400k from fucking breaking even. Fuck you Heart board. I think PPL need to put the Red and White glasses on the shelf for a minute, we are talking about a very good A League player... However at the same time he has noticeable improvement needed on his Marking, Crossing and Shooting before he becomes a solid performer in the Turkish League (This is not some Balkan League destroyed by the ECL). Also I think PPL need to factor in that Aziz is a Left Back – You dont see many Left Back’s breaking transfer records do you??? I think you perhaps are under-valuing him. You are correct that he can't shoot... and he needs a fair bit of development still in certain areas... You should also be able to see he is very capable of developing these skills to a high degree and I believe in a better environment he will do this much quicker then he has been with us. And in this, I see his value, as should the club, and no doubt if this figure is correct, Bursaspor will be licking their lips at the bargain they just got! TBH I cant see Aziz actually agreeing to move if he was told that the deal was ripping of MHFC, he is way too grateful for what the club has done for him and is also just an out and out too massive Melbourne Heart fan. As I said b4 for a young LB (Better suited to LWB) who has played around two seasons of good football in a reasonable Asian League and a few minor International appearances - 300K to 400K sounds about right. I don't think MHFC would tell him they were being ripped off though, They have done the right thing by letting him go, and no doubt probably got the most out of them as they could... Should have been much more though in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontra.11 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 400k is right for Behich. I think he will struggle to get a game and at the end of the day his final ball/finishing wasn't good enough in the A League let alone Europe. I hope he develops this because he does have other good qualities, but I have my doubts. Hope i'm wrong. But...he gave everything for our club and worked his butt off to make this move possible so all the best to him. Just bad timing for us fans given all that has happended with Vinnie and injuries. Finals are impossible now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexiano Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 The way I see it is this. The new club needs to pay the outstanding fee to buy finish the contract outright. If you have 12 months on your mobile contract, you owe 12x months if your monthly bill. Assuming he's getting 150k per year and he's got 2 years left, well that's 225 just to cover the cost. Plus profit to the club. Keep in mind that the club is now saving that cash by not having to pay Aziz for that contract. I'm not at all happy on the timing and wished he'd stay till at least season end, the club can't seem to do right. Everyone has an opinion and you can't please everyone. It is what it is. What he is worth is all relative to your viewpoint. You'll argue forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 In regards to paying out the contract, his contract isn't paid out, as once the clubs agree to a transfer fee and the player agrees to the new clubs contract, his contract with the original club is basically terminated by mutual consent. I believe that is how it works. Heart save on his wages, as well as getting the transfer fee. Although his wages would be minimal anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexiano Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm suggesting it like this Sharpy for others to relate to. I'm an IT contractor myself so somewhat familiar with contracts. The point I was making is that the closer you get d-day, the less clubs are willing to pay. It's all profit at the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Any asset is worth only what the buyer is prepared to pay. House, car, footballer, necklace - doesn't matter what the asset is or what the seller thinks the value is. Fact of life. Aziz is a great guy. Be happy for him. Most of us had a tear in our eye last night. It's been a tumultuous couple of weeks. We have to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 The way I see it is this. The new club needs to pay the outstanding fee to buy finish the contract outright. If you have 12 months on your mobile contract, you owe 12x months if your monthly bill. Assuming he's getting 150k per year and he's got 2 years left, well that's 225 just to cover the cost. Plus profit to the club. Keep in mind that the club is now saving that cash by not having to pay Aziz for that contract. I'm not at all happy on the timing and wished he'd stay till at least season end, the club can't seem to do right. Everyone has an opinion and you can't please everyone. It is what it is. What he is worth is all relative to your viewpoint. You'll argue forever. BANG!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'm sure Heart have negotiated a 20% cut (or similar) of any future transfers so hopefully in a couple of years when, say Galatasaray or Fenerbache pick him he'll be worth a couple of million...that's another $400k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 End of the day, we accrue a lot more benefits selling a player on then the 400k reported in this thread. Under FIFA laws, we get a cut of every future transfer for the years we developed him We are able to attract more and better young talent to the club by continuously showing that we can take a young kid and get them to Europe in a season or two. The better a player he becomes, the better it looks for our club having developed him, increasing our club's recognition and reputation. Having done right by the player, if his European adventure fails we will be the first club he looks at coming back to. On the other hand if he's a success in Europe, when his time overseas is done, again we'll be in the prime position for him to return to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I believe in the article in the herald sun it meantions that they met a minimum release fee clause in his contract anyway so our hands were somewhat tied. I'm as dissapointed as anybody, Aziz showed the one thing our side, somewhat ironically, lacks...Heart. I'm a fan, but I do believe that realistcially he has a lot of faults, and to say that we held all the cards in the negotiating process is false. There are shitloads of leftbacks on the market out there, and Behich is one of them. We play hardball and the buyers head elsewhere and Aziz is somewhat annoyed. Someone mentioned that he would be ok with that because he loves the club and would do the right thing by the club, but that has to go both ways. We reject a reasonable offer and it leaves a sour taste in Behich's mouth. I'm concerned about how we will replace him, but ultimately if this money can help fund a better coaching team, or facilities I think it will turn out to be win win for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 $400k is peanuts. no question but ultimately if a European club comes calling and the player is desperate to leave, the clubs hands are effectively tied. I just wish we were putting the money into a new facilities or something so we aren't the laughing stock of the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 $400k is peanuts. no question but ultimately if a European club comes calling and the player is desperate to leave, the clubs hands are effectively tied. I just wish we were putting the money into a new facilities or something so we aren't the laughing stock of the league Latest news, dump master to replace wheelie bins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 hang on, 400k says who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 with 18 months left on his contract 400k was a bad choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddersss Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 They activated the release clause in his contract, we couldn't negotiate any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 with 18 months left on his contract 400k was a bad choice What people don't seem to understand is that it isn't a choice if the release clause is activated. And 400k is a hell of a lot better than 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ye now I realise there was a clause if a certain figure was met Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 400k is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 lol stated all that in previous posts! bloody negative nancy's!! mmm nancy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Anyone know when he's making his debut? Would love to watch it if I can find a stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyone know when he's making his debut? Would love to watch it if I can find a stream. Bursa is playing Galatasaray at 4am tomorrow morning. Not sure if he'll get game time but firstrowsports will definitely cover the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Anyone got the squads? Not getting up that early if he's not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) Anyone got the squads? Not getting up that early if he's not playing. Nah mate the best I was able to do was find the likely starting 11 which he wasnt in as Turkish League teams don't release a full squad. He could still make the bench but I can't be sure. The lineups are given about 15-30 mins before kick-off. Edited February 2, 2013 by hakz7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baresi Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) http://www.focushaber.com/aziz-behich-bursaspor-da-h-251990.html Bursaspor 's staff adds Aziz Behich 3.5 years green and white colors, which connects itself to the contract signed at a ceremony Ozluce Facility. Representing an important footballer staff of the Secretary-General Ilhan kattıklarını Uslu, "He will play the Turkish status. Coming weeks we will solve the problem. Uçaner'in the intimate friend of his father, Osman Yasar Behich one of the oldest kalecilerimizden. This is a separate value for us. Important player transferred to think we are. " he said. Newcastle United Football Division in charge of the transfer on Erkan Kamat said, "Australia National Team Bursaspor have given left-back Aziz brother. He made ​​sacrifices in this regard. Bursaspor will be to the benefit of the agreements achieved. sacrifices would like to thank. Bursaspor under the shirt will serve for many years. " he said. Bursaspor'da Aziz Behich that he wanted to play for years, and "I came to Turkey for the first time. Bursa liked it very much. how I can help this team will be happy. Hopefully Newcastle United shirt I wear for many years." Lawl. Edited February 2, 2013 by Ellki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Aziz Behich will debut for Bursaspor in just over 4 hours against Galatasary, at 4am AEDST. Find a stream, enjoy the game, etc. "@transfercadde: MUHTEMEL 11'LER Bursaspor Carson İbrahim Serdar Ömer Behich Forsell Batalla Murat Edu Tuncay Pinto" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Aziz Behich will debut for Bursaspor in just over 4 hours against Galatasary, at 4am AEDST. Find a stream, enjoy the game, etc. "@transfercadde: MUHTEMEL 11'LER Bursaspor Carson İbrahim Serdar Ömer Behich Forsell Batalla Murat Edu Tuncay Pinto" Hmm, the one I saw didn't feature his name, nonetheless hope he starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Aziz not in the squad; not even on bench... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Aziz not in the squad; not even on bench... Fml. I stayed up for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Didn't miss him last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 seriously? i thought behind garcia he would've made a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 couple of times it seemed we backed off rojas/thompson and paid for it, when aziz would've gone and nicked the ball off em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Mitchinson was close to being our worst-on last night, so we definitely could have done with Aziz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted February 3, 2013 Report Share Posted February 3, 2013 Mitchinson was close to being our worst-on last night, so we definitely could have done with Aziz. We miss you aziz we do We miss you aziz we do We miss you aziz we doooo Ohhh aziz we miss you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) Having his medical done. Edited February 7, 2013 by Tesla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 (No essendon)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Cute fish net singlet Aziz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Fuck it sucks not seeing his deadly runs anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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