malloy Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) inb4 some stupid 10 game deal is made. Whilst I'm excited by the rumour, I do share some of the sentiments of FB. Huge player, bigger than Kewell, massive statement and all, but it's the complete opposite of that so called youth policy crap the club keeps going on about, just as it's been shown to work. We sell two young players for reasonable amounts, both identified as future talents, and then spend the money on a close to retirement player? Complete backflip. I'm against the idea, but a huge signing will always create excitement. fwiw the club didnt say they were against signing a big international name, only that they were against getting a marquee/big name player for the sake of having one or only to pull in crowds. if there was a player who would be a marquee that they felt would benefit the club on the pitch (and we could afford etc) they would get that player. Edited July 10, 2012 by malloy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeCee Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Could also be seen in helping develop young strikers - imagine Zac Walker learning from Michael Owen and JA instead of just JA, that sounds pretty fucking boss to me I personally wouldn't be able to use that as a justification for the spending involved, would prefer him in a coaching role for that situation. fwiw the club didnt say they were against signing a big international name, only that they were against getting a marquee/big name player for the sake of having one or only to pull in crowds. if there was a player who would be a marquee that they felt would benefit the club on the pitch (and we could afford etc) they would get that player. Well how does he benefit the club then? How does any marquee benefit a club? I agree that the crowd pulling idea is bullshit, it's been proven to be incorrect. However, I'd categorise him as the same kind of player as Kewell and Fowler, a once huge name looking for a retirement club. This doesn't match what I personally think of the club. All that being said, I am seriously 100% on the fence for this one though, I'll be happy if he signs, and equally as happy if he doesn't, and we spend the money on a bunch of talented kids. Edited July 10, 2012 by AyeCee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 The "Talented Kids" stuff can only take you so far up the table in such a minor League as ours, as shown by the departure of Eli straight after his breakout season and most likely Good before he really left a major impression on the League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Pretty sure I mentioned Owens name in the old thread... But as a joke... Fuck, if this actually happens... Imagine the possibilities!! I mean, we can all get his autograph as he's getting over his various injuries! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 CRESPO FFS! Too late he went to India? Wtf? Lol Can we get saviola? Too young still lol Batistuta? Ortega? I give up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 CRESPO FFS! Too late he went to India? Wtf? Lol Can we get saviola? Too young still lol Batistuta? Ortega? I give up! Surely we could get a gun South American striker. They seem to pop them out faster than Toyota makes Camry's. Hasn't Germano got any friends? Perhaps he needs a housemate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) People need to realise Heart is not strictly either a youth team or a 'big name'/veteran team. No team is strictly one or the other, because teams are inevitably a mix of both. In season 1 we had Sibon, Skoko, Aloisi AND youth like Hamill, Behich, Babalj, Kalmar, Zahra etc. Overall, Heart's team to my judgement mostly depends on our many top young players and a few veteran/'big name' players. So if we ended up signing Michael Owen our team would be the same it has always been (season 2 was more youth heavy, but we still importantly had Fred, Colosimo, Madaschi). I think Owen would help Heart with crowds, would help our young players develop and would help us on the pitch in general with his quality (and hopefully score a bag full of goals). I also think the off the pitch benefits of a marquee player are overrated, but I believe Owen would significantly help us on the pitch, and that on the pitch success would fuel membership/attendance growth a lot more than would result simply from Owen becoming a Heart player. It would be a coup signing, I think it could happen but it's probably unlikely, but IMO it would be a coup signing that we should all welcome. Edited July 10, 2012 by Murfy1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Viduka played at NUFC with Owen. Dukes is a part time MHFC fan and friend of Skoko. Skoko put us on to Gohard. Mmmm, surely not. As some have said, he would not be coming for the money. He's already loaded. He is massively into horse racing. Mmmm, I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 James Beattie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Lucho figueroa! Aimar! Julio cruz! D'alessandro! More argos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Would buy 100 memberships if we signed Saviola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartMillsy29 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Viduka played at NUFC with Owen. Dukes is a part time MHFC fan and friend of Skoko. Skoko put us on to Gohard. Mmmm, surely not. As some have said, he would not be coming for the money. He's already loaded. He is massively into horse racing. Mmmm, I wonder. Good thinking but nah surely not! If we could get Owen... Wow, just wow. I would also forgive him a bit for abandoning us in the Championship! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 exactly the type of player we need, and not too old either. The problem with us the last 2 seasons has been that we create many chances, don't take them and end up losing 1-0 (mariners game when kwasnik scored), or draw 0-0 (2 of the derbies last season) A player like owen is a natural finisher. Give him one chance, one on one, and he'll put it away. Hopefully JD can pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Viduka played at NUFC with Owen. Dukes is a part time MHFC fan and friend of Skoko. Skoko put us on to Gerhardt. And Gerhardt earnt pocket money walking Owens dogs during his stint in Madrid? I see the connection now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Not really seeing where Owen would fit into the system if we stick with 4-3-3, a lot of our play is concentrated down the flanks with crosses into the box. Not sure a 5'8" striker is what we need, especially an injury prone 32 year old one at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Not really seeing where Owen would fit into the system if we stick with 4-3-3, a lot of our play is concentrated down the flanks with crosses into the box. Not sure a 5'8" striker is what we need, especially an injury prone 32 year old one at that. if we got owen...i can assure you...we will make him fit into our system lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Owen isn't coming to Melbourne. Moving on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Owen isn't coming to Melbourne. Moving on.. ......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzaverx Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Owen isn't coming to Melbourne. Moving on.. Aww c'mon now, this has been the best thing I've read all morning.. Whether its true or not.. Eh.. Transfer excitement gets me through the off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 MOVING ON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcolossus1 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Transfer thread gone, and I know that this is for strikers but we can put to rest one defensive possible signing - http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/245222,spiranovic-signs-for-qatar-club.aspx What is the world coming to...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 An article from @Gatty54 last month on Jacob Poscoliero, who is set to trial with Melbourne Heart - http://t.co/WSzvmz6u #mhfc #foxfootball -- Sacha Pisani (@Sachk0) 22 year old australian midfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Transfer thread gone, and I know that this is for strikers but we can put to rest one defensive possible signing - http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/245222,spiranovic-signs-for-qatar-club.aspx What is the world coming to...... Change the white bedsheets to black, add two machine guns and it looks like a captured U.S. soldier signing a confession of his sins. 22 year old australian midfielder Serie D is classed as a 'non-professional' league in Italy. Not much above village football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 David Suazo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Stephen Makinwa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Georgios Samaras. Bang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 after reading a few articles linking owen to other clubs, i can understand why a move to australia would be good for him. obviously he wouldn't be looking to play for the money as he is very well off which is a bonus for us as we wouldn't be able to afford huge wages, even with all the transfer money received. One EPL club has reportedly offered owen a "pay as you play" contract so by the sounds of things, his body may not be up to playing a full season in the premier league, or Europe for that matter. We've got a very short season here which would appeal to him and also the lifestyle he would have in melbourne will be great as apposed to what he would get in the middle east. JD hasn't been too vocal on twitter lately, despite all the tweets he is most like getting with this owen talk, and usually he is pretty quick to shut down any false rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 owen this... owen that... owen hargreaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Owen Wilson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticker Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Would buy 100 memberships if we signed Saviola. You should buy 100 memberships either way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Kerem Bulut. Would give him an opportunity to rebuild his life as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 in response to signing michael owen as being against what the club has said about promoting youth and not signing a big name, JD tweeted: John Didulica @Jdidulica @tgR_tsuru @Steelinho 11 of 17 players being 25 or under is youthful by any definition. And even Ajax signed the Laudrup brothers as cream! interesting that he didn't deny it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 They've probably never heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 They've probably never heard of him. Natalie182 asked SM and JD on twitter if there was any truth to the rumor of Melbourne Heart chasing Michael Owen. SM replied: "proven goal scorer, would be great in Australia". That is neither confirm nor deny. We have seen in the past that when something is not going ahead, the club will categorically deny it or will be extremely honest in their response, e.g. Christeas, Hernandez, Kewell etc. Very intriuging response by Scotty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Check out the words JD uses in this article: http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2012/07/10/3231935/frontman-remains-the-goal-as-melbourne-heart-look-to-bolster 'proven goal scorer' - exactly the same as SM. Maybe it means something..... Or maybe I'm just bored and overanalysing things, as obviously we need someone to score lots of goals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Christian8 - says the club is talking to a huge international striker, the biggest name to come to the league yet. Then says the board were to meet and talk to sponsors last night. Ozsportsinsider - tweets last night that a deal for Owen has been struck. Rumour not denied by JD and Munn. Now, I don't trust ozsportsinsider or Scott Munn at all. But with the good word from Christian8, I'm open to the possibility. Just waiting for my favourite insider to get back to confirm it. Where are you Christian8? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Tweets from SM basically say 'Don't let the truth get in the way of the story I just read', which I interpret as an oblique reference to the Michael Owen rumour. I would suggest that the club is happy to let the rumour run. Rumours can deflect attention away from what's really happening, giving the club a better chance of making a good signing without someone else jumping in with a last-minute better offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 people give shit to that 'ozsportsinsider' guy on twitter, but lately he's been pretty spot on with quite a few predictions (most recently said alex wilkinson heading off to korea tomorrow, which was officially released a few hours later) the latest on michael owen he said in reply to someone: yes that's a huge 1. Hope it happens for the league, I too very cautious, but like I said very good sources & know offer made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'd love to believe it too, but I've just had a look at the bloke's website and I just can't imagine him standing in a garbage bin full of ice out at Latrobe after what he's been used to... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Poor crowds, crap facilities, no money. Why would he come? The weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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