daniboi Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Given that Rangers in Scotland are about to formally enter a phase of administration and need to slash the wage bill and Brisbane Roar ruling out paying any fee for McKay's return, any chance of Heart taking on a genuine marquee player like McKay. I think it would be awesome for the team, the club and the supporters. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 wouldnt mind having someone like him in the squad for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Depends on what the club wants for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Depends on what the club wants for him. Give him JvS's wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Give him JvS's wage. Funny thing is, apparently he's on 250k p/s, JVS is on 400k p/s himself. If he's willing to take a paycut, get a cheap but quality coach in for 200k, and give the other 200k to Matty. Problems are: -He's a Brissy boy, through and through. -Rangers in the current state they are in will look for a return on the fee the spent on him12 months ago. Positives are: -He's likely to come back to Aus for regular game time. -He is a natural leader and could replace Fred (whom I feel is not a leader but still a high end professional) as our captain as he would play every game - very rarely gets injured. -He is a ripper bloke and would fit in amongst the other ripper blokes at the club. Would love to see him here, but doubt it'll happen. EDIT: A midfield of: Fred Mckay - Thompson - Hermano Is the absolute stuff of wet dreams. Edited February 14, 2012 by marteaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Funny thing is, apparently he's on 250k p/s, JVS is on 400k p/s himself. If he's willing to take a paycut, get a cheap but quality coach in for 200k, and give the other 200k to Matty. Problems are: -He's a Brissy boy, through and through. -Rangers in the current state they are in will look for a return on the fee the spent on him12 months ago. Positives are: -He's likely to come back to Aus for regular game time. -He is a natural leader and could replace Fred (whom I feel is not a leader but still a high end professional) as our captain as he would play every game - very rarely gets injured. -He is a ripper bloke and would fit in amongst the other ripper blokes at the club. Would love to see him here, but doubt it'll happen. i would say fred is a leader, the other players look upto him and as we can say perform better with him playing along side them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Funny thing is, apparently he's on 250k p/s, JVS is on 400k p/s himself. If he's willing to take a paycut, get a cheap but quality coach in for 200k, and give the other 200k to Matty. Problems are: -He's a Brissy boy, through and through. -Rangers in the current state they are in will look for a return on the fee the spent on him12 months ago. Positives are: -He's likely to come back to Aus for regular game time. -He is a natural leader and could replace Fred (whom I feel is not a leader but still a high end professional) as our captain as he would play every game - very rarely gets injured. -He is a ripper bloke and would fit in amongst the other ripper blokes at the club. Would love to see him here, but doubt it'll happen. EDIT: A midfield of: Fred Mckay - Thompson - Hermano Is the absolute stuff of wet dreams. Get rid of JVS 400k Add Milicic on 50k Give 50k to matty, save 150k elsewhere (surely maycon + worm is 150k at least?) and give that to him also have up to 300k for transfer fee ??? Actually against paying transfer fees, its unnecessary in this league. So if they dont want to let him go for free and reduce their wage bill than do not want, use the 500k to land some free agent marquee. Edited February 14, 2012 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Get rid of JVS 400k Add Milicic on 50k Give 50k to matty, save 150k elsewhere (surely maycon + worm is 150k at least?) and give that to him also have up to 300k for transfer fee ??? Actually against paying transfer fees, its unnecessary in this league. So if they dont want to let him go for free and reduce their wage bill than do not want, use the 500k to land some free agent marquee. Surely Milicic would be on 75-100k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Isn't JvS on $700k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Dont waste a cent, attitude and after Moore set him up at the club, he screwed it up! Too big for his tiny boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Surely Milicic would be on 75-100k? Milicic will take 50k for a chance to be A-League manager, not my fault if MHFC directors' negotiation skills arent on my level. My support for Milicic is on the assumption we can get him for dirt cheap, if we are giving the guy 100k I'm not that keen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Im sure if there is a transfer fee we will not be getting him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I'd imagine most of what we will be saving on JVS' wages won't be reinvested. Will just reduce losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted27 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Dont waste a cent, attitude and after Moore set him up at the club, he screwed it up! Too big for his tiny boots. What do you mean?? Matt was on the park the Roar from game 1 season 1. Moore wasnt around 'till season 3 I'd take him for sure, the guys a legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Get rid of JVS 400k Add Milicic on 50k Give 50k to matty, save 150k elsewhere (surely maycon + worm is 150k at least?) and give that to him also have up to 300k for transfer fee ??? Actually against paying transfer fees, its unnecessary in this league. So if they dont want to let him go for free and reduce their wage bill than do not want, use the 500k to land some free agent marquee. Worm will hopefully save us some money but Maycon wont - I doubt his on any more than 50K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) IMO the most important thing now is to get our new Head Coach sorted before we sign anyone. Just signing someone because they become available is not the way to go. You should have a plan that you're working to, not do things ad hoc. Secondly, we should NOT fill up our player list. If we had left a spot vacant at the start of this season we could have signed Adrian Madaschi for 17-20 weeks as a player rather than an injury replacement, knowing when we did so that we would release him as and when an offer came through from Jeju. Had we done that I'm sure we would have had a better season - he was one of the keys to our run before Christmas. If you keep one or two spots unfilled you have plenty of flexibility. So, get our new coach on board, let him review the players coming out of contract, let him understand what the budget limitations are, and go from there. We have to learn from the mistakes made in our first two years, not just repeat them. P.S. JvS is reportedly on between $550,000 and $750,000 per year. I noted that he also drives a Porsche SUV, no doubt provided by the club... Granted that the money he's paid comes from the syndicate, but let's not make this type of mistake again either. Completely unnecessary to pay this kind of money. Edited February 15, 2012 by jw1739 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) He also lives in Brighton, I wonder if his house is provided by the club as well. EDIT: Hardly near Training either, I guess each to their own. Edited February 15, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 My guess would be yes. The package is probably $550,000 cash plus $200,000 in the fringe benefits, bring it up to $750,000. Seen it all before in industry. FB can include airfares to place of origin, schoolfees, all that sort of thing. Completely unnecessary when you look at the results obtained on the field. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 As if we'd pay a transfer fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Administration will be over by March 30 by the latest so don't get your hopes up on getting him for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 IMO the most important thing now is to get our new Head Coach sorted before we sign anyone. Just signing someone because they become available is not the way to go. You should have a plan that you're working to, not do things ad hoc. Secondly, we should NOT fill up our player list. If we had left a spot vacant at the start of this season we could have signed Adrian Madaschi for 17-20 weeks as a player rather than an injury replacement, knowing when we did so that we would release him as and when an offer came through from Jeju. Had we done that I'm sure we would have had a better season - he was one of the keys to our run before Christmas. If you keep one or two spots unfilled you have plenty of flexibility. So, get our new coach on board, let him review the players coming out of contract, let him understand what the budget limitations are, and go from there. We have to learn from the mistakes made in our first two years, not just repeat them. P.S. JvS is reportedly on between $550,000 and $750,000 per year. I noted that he also drives a Porsche SUV, no doubt provided by the club... Granted that the money he's paid comes from the syndicate, but let's not make this type of mistake again either. Completely unnecessary to pay this kind of money. Madaschi would not have signed on with us for the season. He was trailing with victory before the start of the season and the reason victory did not sign him was because he was only after a short term deal to keep him fit and in form till the jan transfer window so he could go abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted27 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Madaschi would not have signed on with us for the season. He was trailing with victory before the start of the season and the reason victory did not sign him was because he was only after a short term deal to keep him fit and in form till the jan transfer window so he could go abroad. jw1739s point is still valid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Madaschi would not have signed on with us for the season. He was trailing with victory before the start of the season and the reason victory did not sign him was because he was only after a short term deal to keep him fit and in form till the jan transfer window so he could go abroad. Precisely my point. If we'd had a spot vacant we could have signed him on just such a short-term contract. Win-win. Always keep a spot vacant because you never know what opportunities might be around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandev Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Milicic will take 50k for a chance to be A-League manager, not my fault if MHFC directors' negotiation skills arent on my level. My support for Milicic is on the assumption we can get him for dirt cheap, if we are giving the guy 100k I'm not that keen. Surely Milicic would be on 75-100k? My assumptions are 100K is more like it. I doubt any head manager is on less than $100K. They wouldn't get out of bed for less than that! Can anybody share any facts? i.e. min wage paid to a A-League manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/a-league/news/1052216/Show-A-League-coaches-the-money From the 2010/2011 season (salary per season): John van 't Schip - $700,000 Vitezslav Lavicka - $500,000 Franz Straka - $400,000 Ernie Merrick - $300,000 Miron Bleiberg - $300,000 Branko Culina - $300,000 (after the Tinkler takeover) Ricki Herbert - $230,000 Rini Coolen - Just under $200,000 Ian Ferguson - $150,000 No figures provided for Postecoglou & Arnold, although they recieved a combined $400,000 between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'm sure Pappas would cost as much as Milicic. Ps. McKay WILL NOT sign for heart. The only chance we had was during January, he will stay on and fight for a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandev Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://theworldgame....aches-the-money From the 2010/2011 season (salary per season): John van 't Schip - $700,000 Vitezslav Lavicka - $500,000 Franz Straka - $400,000 Ernie Merrick - $300,000 Miron Bleiberg - $300,000 Branko Culina - $300,000 (after the Tinkler takeover) Ricki Herbert - $230,000 Rini Coolen - Just under $200,000 Ian Ferguson - $150,000 No figures provided for Postecoglou & Arnold, although they recieved a combined $400,000 between them. Even though he's a hack. I'm surprised Ferguson's earning the least. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Matty would be an awesome signing. Been a very consistent performer over a number of years. Good on him for having a go at "his dream", just a pity he joined a club who thinks the midfield is the area that the defenders need to clear when passing to the forwards. Rangers are in fairy land though if they think anyone would pay a transfer fee for Matty - he is a recent signing from an obscure league and has barely played. I think he will stay and get some game time after the manager gets sacked. Can't see him ending up in red & white I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Ignorance, everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Ignorance, everywhere. OK, educate me (I admit i haven't seen a recent game, just read others comments). Why can't he get a game then? The club needs more week in week out consistency and that's Matty. When he went I thought it was a good move, but I didn't expect him to be frozen out, particularly when Rangers started to falter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 To be honest, he should of played early when Edu was out of form. Davis/Edu have become a formidable pairing are hard to dislodge for any player. Ally McCoist's teams always fall to shit when Edu/Davis are not the middle pairing. McKay is an excellent play and easily has the pedigree to be a first team player. The only problem is that Ally doesn't rotate his player which will hit him hard soon when Davis gets tired(has already happened) We should be playing: Davis-Edu-Mckay ------Aluko--------- Lee Mc--Healy--- Bedoya is also out of favour which is sad. My prediction is Matty will get a good run of games now that we cannot win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Matty would be an awesome signing. Been a very consistent performer over a number of years. Good on him for having a go at "his dream", just a pity he joined a club who thinks the midfield is the area that the defenders need to clear when passing to the forwards. Rangers are in fairy land though if they think anyone would pay a transfer fee for Matty - he is a recent signing from an obscure league and has barely played. I think he will stay and get some game time after the manager gets sacked. Can't see him ending up in red & white I'm afraid. Matty only got a position because of Moore and doesnt get played because of his attitude and inability to step up to that level, why would you bring that shit in whern he'll come back pissed off cause he didnt make it and no where else wants him. Wake up isnt the league screwed up enough.Its known as the recycled league and everyone knows you wont profit from that so why keep going down that league. Shit if we want to do that bring in Visconte, Dijite,Danning,Farina, memit,Mebrahtu,Vidosic,Bleiberg,Ferguson again and again and again oh shit sorry they have already been recycled and..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Maybe Rangers should have signed you Mario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://theworldgame....aches-the-money From the 2010/2011 season (salary per season): John van 't Schip - $700,000 Vitezslav Lavicka - $500,000 Franz Straka - $400,000 Ernie Merrick - $300,000 Miron Bleiberg - $300,000 Branko Culina - $300,000 (after the Tinkler takeover) Ricki Herbert - $230,000 Rini Coolen - Just under $200,000 Ian Ferguson - $150,000 No figures provided for Postecoglou & Arnold, although they recieved a combined $400,000 between them. Straka was on 400k? Money not well spent there from the defunct Fury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Maybe Rangers should have signed you Mario. Mate, had offers better than the scottish league and I wasnt 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniboi Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Given that he has openly stated that he would be open to a return to the A-League, and we have a marque spot open...............why the hell aren't we moving heaven and earth to sign up Matt McKay? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Given that he has openly stated that he would be open to a return to the A-League, and we have a marque spot open...............why the hell aren't we moving heaven and earth to sign up Matt McKay? I think he'd be a great acquisition for the club but I don't know whether he's worth marquee status (I'm assuming you're referring to the Australian marquee spot, otherwise I'm calling you mad ).  Another thing to note is, whilst he's a fantastic central midfielder (would slot in perfectly into a CDM role) I'm sure he will be keen to play left-back due to the Socceroos and we don't have space for him in that regard.  Perhaps we are in discussions with him and his agent, perhaps we're not. We just need to be patient, we've made 6 pretty good signings now and we've still got ages until the start of the season so we're doing okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbitm Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Given that he has openly stated that he would be open to a return to the A-League, and we have a marque spot open...............why the hell aren't we moving heaven and earth to sign up Matt McKay? he might be looking for a club where he can play LB (like he does at the socceroos). And we already have Behich there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniboi Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 @ Tbitm and Nate. Â Good points to both of you. Â And yes I was referring to the Aussie Marque spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013  Given that he has openly stated that he would be open to a return to the A-League, and we have a marque spot open...............why the hell aren't we moving heaven and earth to sign up Matt McKay? he might be looking for a club where he can play LB (like he does at the socceroos). And we already have Behich there.  Yeah lets pass up on him because we have Behich - That worked with Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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