Melbourne City 2014 Pre Season

[Tonyboozeadams]

Just a guess

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Poole_(footballer)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Chantler_(footballer)

 

 

A bit unsure on the Evans guy

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Evans_(footballer,_born_1988)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Evans_(footballer,_born_1994)

 

probably the second option (george evans) since they seem to have all been at manchester city at some stage

seems a bit old for a trialist

[jw1739]

Evans might be George Evans, from the ManC EDS; been on loan to Crewe.

[Tonyboozeadams]

he retired in 1987

[biancorosso7]

Why are we trialling more midfielders? Surely we have enough.

[heart_fan10]

he retired in 1987

 

my bad, copied the wrong link 

[jw1739]

Why are we trialling more midfielders? Surely we have enough.

JvS' preferred squad of 23 is two shit goalkeepers plus 21 midfielders.

[Tonyboozeadams]

Ok murf get on these names ahah

@MelbourneCity: Second half XI: Redmayne; Hoffman, Evans (T), King (T), Chantler (T), Murdocca, Melling, Poole (T), Duff, Williams, Ramsay. #MBCvBFC

Geez, that's a team to strike fire in the hearts of the opposition

[heart_fan10]

these are the names

[coys]

Trialists are 
- George Evans 19 (Manchester City)
- James Poole 24 (Former Man City Prospect playing for Hartlepool in League 2)
- Chris Chantler 23 (Former Man City Prospect Last played for Carlisle In League 1)

Excluded King because he seems the most well known to other members on the forum.
All the trialists seem to be at a good young age and would have shown some promise to be kept or picked up by city's academy. They could be a terrific find.

Edited July 15, 2014 by coys

[Tonyboozeadams]

*fear

[heart_fan10]

i'm struggling to see how we're going to fit any of these players in the squad considering they'll take up a visa spot and we're looking for an international marquee plus the possibility of lampard on a short loan which would mean all visa spots are filled.

 

Unless one of them were to come straight in after lampard/villa have left

[Nate]

i'm struggling to see how we're going to fit any of these players in the squad considering they'll take up a visa spot and we're looking for an international marquee plus the possibility of lampard on a short loan which would mean all visa spots are filled.

 

Unless one of them were to come straight in after lampard/villa have left

inb4 Lampard is the marquee

[MaliMate]

Can Evans be a junior marquee player?

[coys]

James Poole got nominated in goal of the year for both 2013 and 2014 seasons fwiw

[silva10]

If it is George Evans then he is a very good young player. Maybe an ideal move for him.

 

Poole I believe was a midfielder in the City youth and Chantler may have played at right back

 

I am not sure if either of those two would improve the team though.

[biancorosso7]

Poole listed as a striker in places. Would be the only one really worth looking at if we want squad balance

[Nate]

 

 

‘Hartley’ and ‘Poole’ give Hartlepool win

By Eurosport3 February 2013 10:54World of Sport

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James Poole (L) and Peter Hartley

 

A clash between Hartlepool United and Notts County in a League One would not normal garner much attention but there was something truly unique about the clash between the two teams on Saturday.

Hartlepool won the match 2-1 to record back-to-back victories for the first time in 17 months but the real story emerges when you look at their goal scorers.

James Poole put them in front in the fifth minute and then Peter Hartley netted the winner in the 70th after Jamal Campbell-Ryce had equalised for the visitors.

That's right, Hartlepool won and their goalscorers were called 'Hartley' and 'Poole.'

 

It is not like the two players have been banging in the goals this season either. Poole is a striker but his goal was only his third of the season while for defender Hartley it was the first time all campaign he has found the back of the net.

It is not the first time that the North-East club has made headlines for rather odd reasons. In 2002 their team mascot "H'Angus the Monkey" was elected mayor of the town, while a photo of their away fans went viral last year as they all arrived on the London Underground for a match at Charlton dressed as smurfs.

Hartlepool also have a rather odd collection of celebrity fans that includes Meatloaf, Sky Sports presenter Jeff Stelling, Iron Maiden guitarist Janick Gers, the bloke who played Des Barnes in Coronation Street and Peter Mandelson.

 

 

Just a random piece of James Poole trivia.

[Shahanga]

3 goals to February as a striker?  That return is Mifsudesque.

[MHFCRC]

@MelbourneCity: Full-time | It's all over at Carrington as Melbourne play out a 2-2 draw with Bury. James Brown and James Poole with the goals. #MBCvBFC

[RedAndWhitePride]

Far out.

[marn11]

[Pandev]

what? 4th tier english football, league 2 players!?

thought we could attract better ...admittingly I don't know a thing about them.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Pandev

[Heart_fan]

A very early pre-season game that seemed to be more focused on trial players is hardly something to stress about.

We still have 3 months to go until round 1, and the main thing would be about getting the right players to complete the roster.

[Murfy1]

It's worth remembering that the FFA, with perhaps their most stupid decision, created a rule a season or two ago that prevents VISA players under 20 from being signed. The rule was a bad knee-jerk response after a season where Brisbane signed some Visa players under 20 (who were deemed not to be very good), and at the time the FFA were very concerned over whether the A-League was developing young Australian players (I think the Australian team had just failed to make the Olympics for the first time ever).

 

That might make it much harder for us to sign players directly from Man City's EDS squad. And it would explain why players in their early to mid 20s, and former Man City players, are being trialled.

Edited July 15, 2014 by Murfy1

[gundam]

Match report:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourneheart/news-display/Melbourne-City-FC-and-Bury-share-spoils/91194

 

 

Melbourne City FC kicked-off its UK pre-season with a 2-2 draw with English League Two side Bury FC on Tuesday afternoon.

Goals from James Brown and triallist James Poole had put the Hyundai A-League outfit ahead twice, but John van't Schip's side failed to hold on to their lead and were forced to settle for a share of the spoils at Manchester City’s training ground, Carrington.

Melbourne started the brighter of the two sides, controlling possession well and building from the back, carving the Bury defence open on number of occasions.

Melbourne City’s first effort of the afternoon came from Iain Ramsay, who struck from long-range into the goalkeeper’s arms on eight minutes.

Just three minutes later, Melbourne opened the scoring when - having been denied by a defender on the line - Mate Dugandzic squared for Brown to tap home from close range.

Bury responded well to falling behind and Andrew Redmayne was called into action within minutes, tipping a shot over the crossbar.

Heeding the warning, Melbourne pushed forward in search of a second goal. Dugandzic was thwarted on 20 minutes after good work down the right from Jason Hoffman, before Brown, Aaron Mooy and Jason Hoffman tried their luck from distance to no avail.

The second half brought a number of changes to the line-up, with trialists George Evans, Tom King, Chris Chantler and Poole entering the fray.

Possibly disrupted by the shake-up, Melbourne struggled to continue where they left off and conceded a soft goal from a corner just before the hour mark.

David Williams then spurned a fine chance to regain the lead, rounding the goalkeeper before firing over.
Just four minutes later though, Melbourne City did net their second as Poole turned his defender before stretching to poke the ball past the goalkeeper and into the back of the net.

Once again though, Bury reacted and almost found an immediate equaliser, striking the crossbar.
Seven minutes later, the 'Shakers' did draw level, crossing to the back-post and smashing the ball into the bottom corner.

From then on, the focus for both sides appeared to be to avoid defeat. Bury kept 11 men behind the ball in fear of conceding, so aside from Poole’s low effort that was pushed wide, little was created in terms of chances to win the game.

Next up, Melbourne City FC face Oldham Althetic at Boundary Park on Saturday, kicking-off at 3pm BST.

[jw1739]

All very familiar reading.

 

Conceding goals from 1) a corner and 2) a cross to the back post. Being twice in front and unable to win. Williams rounding the 'keeper and then missing.

 

Kisnorbo is obviously still recovering from surgery, but what about Germano?

Edited July 16, 2014 by jw1739

[Cinnamon]

Match report:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourneheart/news-display/Melbourne-City-FC-and-Bury-share-spoils/91194

Melbourne City FC kicked-off its UK pre-season with a 2-2 draw with English League Two side Bury FC on Tuesday afternoon.

Goals from James Brown and triallist James Poole had put the Hyundai A-League outfit ahead twice, but John van't Schip's side failed to hold on to their lead and were forced to settle for a share of the spoils at Manchester City’s training ground, Carrington.

Melbourne started the brighter of the two sides, controlling possession well and building from the back, carving the Bury defence open on number of occasions.

Melbourne City’s first effort of the afternoon came from Iain Ramsay, who struck from long-range into the goalkeeper’s arms on eight minutes.

Just three minutes later, Melbourne opened the scoring when - having been denied by a defender on the line - Mate Dugandzic squared for Brown to tap home from close range.

Bury responded well to falling behind and Andrew Redmayne was called into action within minutes, tipping a shot over the crossbar.

Heeding the warning, Melbourne pushed forward in search of a second goal. Dugandzic was thwarted on 20 minutes after good work down the right from Jason Hoffman, before Brown, Aaron Mooy and Jason Hoffman tried their luck from distance to no avail.

The second half brought a number of changes to the line-up, with trialists George Evans, Tom King, Chris Chantler and Poole entering the fray.

Possibly disrupted by the shake-up, Melbourne struggled to continue where they left off and conceded a soft goal from a corner just before the hour mark.

David Williams then spurned a fine chance to regain the lead, rounding the goalkeeper before firing over.

Just four minutes later though, Melbourne City did net their second as Poole turned his defender before stretching to poke the ball past the goalkeeper and into the back of the net.

Once again though, Bury reacted and almost found an immediate equaliser, striking the crossbar.

Seven minutes later, the 'Shakers' did draw level, crossing to the back-post and smashing the ball into the bottom corner.

From then on, the focus for both sides appeared to be to avoid defeat. Bury kept 11 men behind the ball in fear of conceding, so aside from Poole’s low effort that was pushed wide, little was created in terms of chances to win the game.

Next up, Melbourne City FC face Oldham Althetic at Boundary Park on Saturday, kicking-off at 3pm BST.

Unlucky, weather etc

[jw1739]

i'm struggling to see how we're going to fit any of these players in the squad considering they'll take up a visa spot and we're looking for an international marquee plus the possibility of lampard on a short loan which would mean all visa spots are filled.

 

Unless one of them were to come straight in after lampard/villa have left

I agree that it's pretty hard to see where everything is going. Assuming that Villa will be a guest player, ATM there are two visa places left. We've all been making the assumption that one will be taken by a marquee, but perhaps that will no longer occur? I certainly have my doubts about Lampard because his personal circumstances don't favour him playing in Australia.

 

George Evans is the one that intrigues me. A member of Manchester City's EDS he's not 20 until December 2014, so according to Murf's research couldn't be signed as a visa player until then. But the fact that he played for us yesterday must have some significance. Otherwise surely he would be with the EDS squad in Croatia?

[loriente]

 

Match report:

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbourneheart/news-display/Melbourne-City-FC-and-Bury-share-spoils/91194

Melbourne City FC kicked-off its UK pre-season with a 2-2 draw with English League Two side Bury FC on Tuesday afternoon.

Goals from James Brown and triallist James Poole had put the Hyundai A-League outfit ahead twice, but John van't Schip's side failed to hold on to their lead and were forced to settle for a share of the spoils at Manchester City’s training ground, Carrington.

Melbourne started the brighter of the two sides, controlling possession well and building from the back, carving the Bury defence open on number of occasions.

Melbourne City’s first effort of the afternoon came from Iain Ramsay, who struck from long-range into the goalkeeper’s arms on eight minutes.

Just three minutes later, Melbourne opened the scoring when - having been denied by a defender on the line - Mate Dugandzic squared for Brown to tap home from close range.

Bury responded well to falling behind and Andrew Redmayne was called into action within minutes, tipping a shot over the crossbar.

Heeding the warning, Melbourne pushed forward in search of a second goal. Dugandzic was thwarted on 20 minutes after good work down the right from Jason Hoffman, before Brown, Aaron Mooy and Jason Hoffman tried their luck from distance to no avail.

The second half brought a number of changes to the line-up, with trialists George Evans, Tom King, Chris Chantler and Poole entering the fray.

Possibly disrupted by the shake-up, Melbourne struggled to continue where they left off and conceded a soft goal from a corner just before the hour mark.

David Williams then spurned a fine chance to regain the lead, rounding the goalkeeper before firing over.

Just four minutes later though, Melbourne City did net their second as Poole turned his defender before stretching to poke the ball past the goalkeeper and into the back of the net.

Once again though, Bury reacted and almost found an immediate equaliser, striking the crossbar.

Seven minutes later, the 'Shakers' did draw level, crossing to the back-post and smashing the ball into the bottom corner.

From then on, the focus for both sides appeared to be to avoid defeat. Bury kept 11 men behind the ball in fear of conceding, so aside from Poole’s low effort that was pushed wide, little was created in terms of chances to win the game.

Next up, Melbourne City FC face Oldham Althetic at Boundary Park on Saturday, kicking-off at 3pm BST.

Unlucky, weather etc

 

Yep, club is in a downward spiral. I hear the official attendance was 0.

 

Fold the club.

[coys]

So we play oldham in our next game (pleas correct me if im wrong). Oldham just Premier League outfit Newcastle United 2-1 last night. Although not the strongest Newcastle side this was by no means an easy win for Oldham and it looks like we will have a tough time playing them. 

[schwarzgelb]

Tom King: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=73434&season_id=143

Chris Chantler: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=58084&season_id=143

James Poole: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=53584&season_id=143

George Evans: http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=67638&season_id=143

 

Pretty ordinary players really, all from bottom of the ladder League 1 and 2 teams, nothing worth writing home about.

 

And Chantler is out of contract so technically he's not even in a bottom of the ladder league 1 team anymore.

[Deviant]

good for this league. 

[Tonyboozeadams]

really though?

[jw1739]

I wouldn't have called George Evans "ordinary." He's in City's Elite Development Squad.

[Torn Asunder]

It is pleasing to know that the coaching expertise at Manchester City probably watched over this game with keen interest (and I am sure, at times, shock, horror, sadness and disbelief), so hopefully, now they can work with JVS to implement improvements.  

 

Either way, being at Manchester, it is clearly a million times better than a regional scratch match under the masterful eye of the 'structure' focused tactical genius that was JA "That Penalty" Mr Excuse.

[LR9]

Evens and Poole seem decent, but I just can’t see a huge benefits for us (other than picking up a player for $0). Unless they are gun players who will make a real claim for a starting berth, these guys will just take up a valuable VISA place. 

 

I could understand if we’re using it to pick up a player to fill a position where local options are skint (such as full-backs), but I’d much rather blood players like Retre, Mauk, Gooch, Marino, Schroen, Kuzmanovski, etc. over these imports.

 

However, I wonder what the rules are around the youth team. Brisbane have a few Indonesians on their books, Gold Coast had a couple of Eritreans, Perth have had some foreigners, Sydney had a Pom and I know we were looking at an ex-Leverpool youth keeper Chris Oldfield, who plays with Hume City, for our youth team last season.

 

I guess there could potentially be another avenue there...

Edited July 16, 2014 by LR9

[Deviant]

really though?

 

 

What were you expecting? For them to throw money away? It's just not good business.

 

The people running the show know what they're doing. They know business and they know the game. If the club doesn't perform, the fans wont spend the money. They wouldn't allow JVS to run the playing group the way he does if they deemed it unfit for the universal structure that they want all 4 teams to play.

That whole 'We'll sign who we want' attitude, at the end of last season, was simply the venting the frustration of another dismal season. In reality, we aren't going to sign a James Rodriguez type young gun. But it's good for the league to set the standard in training and on the field from a person who has been singled out in England at a young age (not a small feat) and has opted to play in Australia to further his development. 

 

I'm looking forward to the attractive attacking and counter attacking football that should be played. It's entertained us in the past and will entertain us again.  

[Deviant]

Evens and Poole seem decent, but I just can’t see a huge benefits for us (other than picking up a player for $0). Unless they are gun players who will make a real claim for a starting berth, these guys will just take up a valuable VISA place. 

 

I could understand if we’re using it to pick up a player to fill a position where local options are skint (such as full-backs), but I’d much rather blood players like Retre, Mauk, Gooch, Marino, Schroen, Kuzmanovski, etc. over these imports.

 

However, I wonder what the rules are around the youth team. Brisbane have a few Indonesians on their books, Gold Coast had a couple of Eritreans, Perth have had some foreigners, Sydney had a Pom and I know we were looking at an ex-Leverpool youth keeper Chris Oldfield, who plays with Hume City, for our youth team last season.

 

I guess there could potentially be another avenue there...

 

You're 100% right in that aspect, but are they good enough??? The standard will be set by people their own age from England. If they then show improvement, they will be rewarded.

[jw1739]

Not an encouraging report on Tom King here: http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/bristol-city-ds-v-brentford-ds-10.03.14-1410018.aspx

[Murfy1]

The positive thing about these players trialing, even though they aren't currently, or haven't been recently, playing for big clubs is that they will have been scouted thoroughly, and our club should know these players inside out. So even though they are League One, there's reason to think these players are more 'diamonds in the rough' than average League One players. Also the fact that they played for Man City (EDS) is a tick for their club pedigrees.

 

However, I agree that on the whole they are a little underwhelming. It doesn't look like these players (in particular the more defensive players) did very well, although that could perhaps be chalked up to so many HT substitutions, and perhaps isn't a true reflection of these players' quality.

 

I pretty much agree that I'd rather see young Australians given a go over these guys, going off the available evidence. And it seems that young Australian players like Ross Archibald, who played the first half when the defence didn't concede a goal, are looking objectively better than these particular triallists as well.