Ideas for Improving Yarraside for Season 2014/15

[Jestr]

Should we merge this thread with the other one called

Domestic politics. ???

[Tesla]

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you as individuals, you are all great people in person

Let me start by saying I don't have any personal issues with any of you either and I hope my post doesn't sound like I do.

 

You say there's nothing stopping someone rising to 'Yarraside Core'. I put my hand up to help out more this season, I was made apart of the 'Outer Core' (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) , I went to most of the preseason game, I helped out over two massive days with the major derby tifo this season, I helped out with message banners for games, I helped out with the silent protest (even though I didn't agree with it), I travelled 3 times this season and did the major tour game to Perth. And even after all that, I now find myself dropped from 'Outer Core' since the middle of the game on Saturday with no reason given at all, but presumable because I was passionate about 'keeping the clubs colours' and helped to organise something around an issue many people on and outside this forum were very passionate about.

I honestly am not fussed about having the tag removed, that section of that forum was dead anyway, I just think it's pretty spineless that not one of the 'Yarraside Core' could front me on Saturday, and speak to someone who was one of four original people who helped found this 'Yarraside' terrace, and let me know that I had been dropped from Outer Core and why that was specifically so.

The point is, the theory about rising through the ranks and putting your hand up to help, don't match with actions of the 'Yarraside Core' in reality.

I made a post last night in the other thread, but deleted it straight away as I was hopeful that all this shit had come to an end and I didn't want to continue it, but since it has continued, and I think it's relevant to what you say, this is my post from last night, I'll put it in a different colour so it's clear where it begins and ends:

 

Maybe some core members should have embraced the campaign instead of letting their personal problems with people involved in the campaign cloud their judgement. Surely keeping the red n white should have been more of a prioirty to someone as passionate as you are aboutthe club. More of a prioirty than your dislike of certain people.

You come across as the main core rep on these forums and your attitude to the campaign was so negative from the get go, I don't blame them not going through you. I understand the MU5 banner was very important and it sucks it didn't go ahead.

If you guys had of been proactive instead of reactive and cracking the shits about it all, i'd have happily chipped in some funds for some poles, whats $20 when these lads have gone to the time and effort of making it! I bet others would have to! I'd have even helped them set the poles up if needed/ wanted.

The campaign seemed pretty spur of the moment, i was happy to help when invited and it obviously only had the right intentions.

• No one in core had a fundamental problem with the campaign, we oppose a change in colours as much as anyone.
• If anything, we were somewhat relieved that for once in 4 years the burden wasn't on us to spend countless amounts of time and money on a display.
• Speaking for myself personally, I didn't have any 'personal problems' with any individual involved in the campaign at the time, and I'd like to think no one involved in the campaign had any 'personal problems' with me either.
• Again, just speaking for myself personally, the reason I didn't 'embrace' the campaign, is because the campaign organisers made it clear that they didn't want any of us involved.
• Before this campaign started, some of the key organisers basically had a go at core for not doing any form of display relating to the colour change for this game and pretty much demanded that a message banner be accommodated, and that it be given priority over already organised displays for the game. We went out of our way to accommodate their request fairly, and done so quite quickly on very short notice, once we had done so and there was no longer anything to have a go at us for, we never heard any more about this message banner, despite following up on multiple occasions. Next thing we know, the campaign had begun and since we weren't hearing any news on the message banner, we came to the obvious conclusion that the campaign had replaced the message banner and our involvement was no longer wanted.
• From this point on, I really don't know what more could be expected of us but to carry on with our business and let the campaigners carry on with there's, as we did.
• The issue that occurred has been mentioned already by cadete, but basically because of the lack of cooperation from the campaigners, a group of young lads, who worked hard for over a month on their display (which was being worked on before this campaign was even conceived), didn't get to display their tifo.
• I know the campaigners didn't intend for this to happen, and I'm not accusing them of any malice or anything like that, but at the end of the day, their actions caused these young lads a great deal of disappointment, and this is were my one and only issue with the whole thing is, that not one grown adult from this group of campaigners apologised to these young lads, despite being asked nicely to do so, so the matter could be put to rest for good and everyone can focus on more important issues.

Clearly I am not privileged, nor am I apart of any little inner circles or crews. And if you want it to remain that way feel free to revoke my terrace talk privileges. I don't need them.

Hate this whole "crew" mentality. I just like supporting my team and watching football mate.

Yeah ive become mates with people who stand in bay 16, but I also know and am friends with as many in 17 and the rest of the stadium. They're the people that have got to know me a little bit more over 4 years now, and who's company I enjoy when talking about and watching the football.

But I'm certainly not aligned to anyone or crew.

I also don't care for the inner political terrace stuff that you guys (both sides, with this apparent divide) seem have going on.

I feel I'm nothing but another outsider looking in and what i said is how i feel and how it looks to most who aren't in the know but spend a lot of time reading on this forum. As I know from speaking to people who don't know who any of you guys personally but read this stuff. Even a couple yesterday whilst handing out placards to strangers voiced my previous opinion, So please keep that in mind. Especially when you lay blame (in the open where all who aren't fully informed can see and judge) on the people behind the campaign who put a lot of time and effort into this. Including myself somewhat, im not wanting to argue anything, BUT of course I'm going to stick up for these people when i feel its unfair. And i hope you understand that.

Thank you for clearing that up though, as has been pointed out there were/is a lot of issues and stubbourness, on both of these sides. A lot of grey area and miscommunication. Two wrongs obviously didn't make any rights on the day. I know I was disappointed with the banner that went ahead and also disappointed that the pregame MU5 one didnt go ahead at all. I love these visuals! It'd have been great to see both on the night. Obviously you guys were and are pissed off as are MU5.

In its entirety it was a long way off the potential of what yarraside as one could and has before created.

At least the message was still put put there. Hopefully Lessons can be learned. Issues can be sorted.

FWIW, I don't think MU5 are pissed off at this stage, they took it very well considering, and they'll display their tifo at some point next season. We aren't pissed off either at this stage, things like this happen, and hopefully it serves as a lesson for the future on why there is a certain process for displays and the importance of communication. Again, the only outstanding matter, in my opinion, is that it would be nice if an apology was given to MU5.

That was the post. Surely from that you can realise why you were removed. You made it clear you didn't want to be part of the structure in place, so you were removed from it.

Where I take offence is your comment about us being "spineless" and not talking to you face to face. You really can not be serious with that comment. This is the exact behaviour that you guys (you and the other former core members behind this campaign) have always demonstrated, and the exact behaviour that has been a prime cause of the problems we now have. When have any of you discussed your problems with the terrace in private with us, or in person. It's always on the public forum for all to see, where it causes division, and makes the whole terrace look bad. If you really cared about improving the terrace, surely you're smart enough to realise that isn't the best way to go about things.

But lets be honest here, you don't care about the terrace. You don't care about the club. You don't care about anyone else involved. All you guys care about is personal glory. I've known you guys for years, and this is all you have ever cared about. Let's take you for example, you were part of the active support scene on the blue side of town, but walked away once you realised you couldn't get your personal glory there. A much better chance at personal glory was to be part of the new terrace here from day 1, be a part of the leadership, but eventually everyone lost respect for you, and once you realised you won't be getting any of your personal glory any more, you walked away from core. You then focused your energies on publicly criticising and discrediting Core every opportunity you got, never once would you make any comments in private or to our faces, only on the public forum would you make these comments, as that's where you could get your precious 'likes' and that taste of personal glory that you crave. Are these the actions of someone that wants to see yarraside improve? The very reason you were included in Outer Core is so you could express your criticisms, ideas, and any other comments you had about the running the terrace in an appropriate place, but you never took this opportunity, because of course, there is no personal glory to be achieved by doing it in private. That was your opportunity to improve the terrace, if that's what you truly wanted, and you never fucking took it.

It's the same story with all of you guys. I think of the days that you lot were in core as the dark days of Yarraside's leadership. Once we cleansed core of you, all the infighting stopped, and the performance of Core increased ten-fold. All you have ever done since then is talk absolute shit to new terrace members, who don't know the history, making yourselves look good and us as the bad guys, no matter how divisive this is. Same thing on the public forum and social media, hunting for 'likes' and personal glory, no matter how divisive it is and how much damage it causes to the terrace, and the club's support in general. Same reason you guys went and created the bay 16 'crew', so you could be the 'big fish' in a 'small pond', because some of that precious personal glory is better than nothing for you. You really don't think that was a divisive action? But it's okay, because you got that personal glory you crave. Same with this campaign, as per my post in blue, we made a compromise with you, but that wasn't enough personal glory for you, so you showed a complete lack of professionalism and respect towards us, ignoring us when we followed up with you, so you could go create the campaign, which was much more public and would of course lead to you accruing more of that personal glory. Just look at what you guys posted during the making of the display, constant "so tired", "working all night" posts, when have any of Core ever made public comments like that while working just as hard on displays? We don't, because we aren't in this for the personal glory, if anything, each of us goes out of our way to play as 'behind the scenes' a role as possible. So if you want to know why none of you have been invited to be a part of Core again, it's because once you guys left we saw how much better Core can be when personal glory hunters are removed, and only the blokes that actually give a fuck about supporting the club are there, and there is no chance we would ever go back.

The fact is, I did try have a calm and mature conversation with one of you after the game, and not once during that conversation was anything bad said about the Yarraside leadership, until after the conversation ended, and the bloke was walking away, did he then turn around and make a negative comment about the yarraside leadership, completely out of tone with the conversation we just had, and when I finally caught up to him and confronted him face to face once more, again not a single bad word was said about Yarraside's leadership. Because this is the type of blokes you guys are, glory hunting cowards, who love to talk shit on the internet, but don't have anything negative to say in real life.

Now if you want to discuss things in person, face to face for once, I'll happily meet up with you. But if you really want to resolve things, and have a private face to face discussion, then all I ask is you don't post any of it all over the internet for 'likes' and personal glory afterwards.

Edited April 14, 2014 by Tesla

[MaliMate]

ELE

[Bozza]

Tesla, for the record.

I spoke to MU5 PRIOR TO KICKOFF.

[Tesla]

Tesla, for the record.

I spoke to MU5 PRIOR TO KICKOFF.

Bozza, for the record.

I spoke to MU5's top boy after the game, and he told me they were still awaiting an apology.

So maybe there is some miscommunication here between the two parties, might be good if you follow up with them.

[Bozza]

Why do I need to follow up with them?

I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

[Jestr]

[cadete]

Why do I need to follow up with them?

I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

First off who did u speak to in YSIDE Core prior to KO?

And FWIW Ando specifically stated that MU5 were not worthy of an apology a number of times after the match.

This being of course before he decided to insult Core as he was walking away from Telsa and then run away down the street... I believe he then returned to The Gimp once Core had left.

Edited April 14, 2014 by cadete

[bazzatron]

Why do I need to follow up with them?

I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

 

 

 

Why do I need to follow up with them?

I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

First off who did u speak to in YSIDE Core prior to KO?

And FWIW Ando specifically stated that MU5 were not worthy of an apology a number of times after the match.

This being of course before he decided to insult Core as he walking away from Telsa and then run away the down street... I believe he then returned to Gimp once Core had left.

 

 

He called me before kickoff as soon as he found out about the last minute restrictions from Vicpol. He offered flagpoles and zip ties to MU5 (i relayed this to Hackett and MU5). He also called MU5 straight after me as well.

[Tesla]

Why do I need to follow up with them?

I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

You seem to be going out of your way to avoid the word "apology", did you or did you not apologise to them?

Because you have responded to my post that said I thought they deserved an apology, but your replies haven't stated that you did apologise.

Edited April 14, 2014 by Tesla

[GabiBoyd]

Why do I need to follow up with them?I spoke to both YSide Core AND mu5 prior to kickoff. Now if these 2 entities are not communicating between themselves that is no issue for me.

You seem to be going out of your way to avoid the word "apology", did you or did you not apologise to them?Because you have responded to my post that said I thought they deserved an apology, but your replies haven't stated that you did apologise.

Bozza has gone into a meeting now so can't reply. I don't want to talk for him but I don't want this to get any more out of hand either, so let me just say as someone who was present while said phone calls were made, YES, heartfelt apologies were offered long before kickoff. Let that be the end of it.

[Bannon]

to the fans saying there scared to say hi, come out of your shells i didn't know one bloke/female in the terrace and now id like to think im good friends with them all even after that horrible season.

[Deviant]

to the fans saying there scared to say hi, come out of your shells i didn't know one bloke/female in the terrace and now id like to think im good friends with them all even after that horrible season.

Fuck you, I hate your guts.

PS: Can't wait for Armin lol

[Nate]

[Deviant]

With the departure of HK... A great idea to improve yside... No more politics.

I owe you a like Nate

Edited April 14, 2014 by Deviant

[xXJawsaXx]

I feel as if this exact conversation happens during every off-season...

[KD.]

to the fans saying there scared to say hi, come out of your shells i didn't know one bloke/female in the terrace and now id like to think im good friends with them all even after that horrible season.

youre gonna have to be the first one i say hi to now..haha

[THB]

 

At the end of the day, just like with most things in life, it's easy to be the person sitting on the sidelines, saying "x needs to happen, y needs to change". A lot of those criticising freely admit that they have never attended a game in the active section, or only attend games occasionally in the active section.

The fact of the matter is, there is nothing stopping anyone in Yarraside contributing more. There is nothing stopping anyone in Yarraside becoming capo, it's obviously a position that doesn't have a permanent fixture currently. There is nothing stopping anyone in Yarraside becoming a Core member, I honestly think someone could go from being a completely unknown random showing up to a preseason game, to being a Core member before the next season has started.

Seriously, if someone thinks they have what it takes to be capo, make yourself known. As long as you aren't completely incompetent, or a known fuckhead, you'll be in with a chance. Better yet, come to the preseason games and stake a claim then and there.

Anyone that want's to contribute more, just say so. We always need help with tifos for example. That doesn't mean a week before the derby you send a PM to a Core member, as just a username on the forum, and ask if we need help. That means you put in the time to attend preseason games, away games at the pub, pre games on match day, post games on match day, etc, so other yarraside members actually know who you are, and you make it known well beforehand that you want to help out, because a week before the game the tifo is already finished.

Apart from that, at this point in time, the best way you could contribute will be to attend the off season games, because that is where things like new chants can be tried and learnt.

That might be the reality of the situation in theory, but that's not the reality of the situation in practice.

You say there's nothing stopping anyone stepping up to be capo, but when people have stepped up to capo the terrace, like Baby Jay , he was shouted down and publicly berated by the 'Yarraside Core' in front of hundreds of people during a game.

How is the capo supposed to be respected by the whole terrace, when members of the 'Yarraside Core' are shouting someone new down when they're trying to capo?

Instead of shouting him down, did any Core member offer to go down there and stand beside him and help? Help give him more presence?

I have not seen anyone from the 'Yarraside Core' stand with the capo and help them out, at any point this season. Not once. You can't call yourselves the leaders, and want everything to go through you, but then not provide leadership when leadership is needed.

You say there's nothing stopping anyone getting more involved, but how many people have suggested new chants or posted ideas for flags/2 sticks have gotten a smart reply from senior terrace/core members on here or been laughed at or shut down?

You say there's nothing stopping others making banners and being proactive, we wanted to make one for the game on the weekend for the Keep The Red & White campaign and had to put up with smartass replys from the 'Yarraside Core' all week about the campaign being pointless, that we should sign stat decs instead and other pointed barbs. Then when we deployed the banners at the start of the game we had yarraside core members jeering us publicly in front of the terrace over what we had made.

You say that anyone can rise through the ranks, but when a terrace member who has stood with us almost since the start,mdrinks with us at the imp and has particpated in away trips, wanted to be promoted to the 'terrace talk section' on the forums, you 'Yarraside Core' did not want to promote him as he wasn't able to go to games anymore. But yet are happy to have people have access to the terrace talk who live in Ireland and England and haven't stood with yside in months, presumably because you know them better.

You say there's nothing stopping someone rising to 'Yarraside Core'. I put my hand up to help out more this season, I was made apart of the 'Outer Core' (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) , I went to most of the preseason game, I helped out over two massive days with the major derby tifo this season, I helped out with message banners for games, I helped out with the silent protest (even though I didn't agree with it), I travelled 3 times this season and did the major tour game to Perth. And even after all that, I now find myself dropped from 'Outer Core' since the middle of the game on Saturday with no reason given at all, but presumable because I was passionate about 'keeping the clubs colours' and helped to organise something around an issue many people on and outside this forum were very passionate about.

I honestly am not fussed about having the tag removed, that section of that forum was dead anyway, I just think it's pretty spineless that not one of the 'Yarraside Core' could front me on Saturday, and speak to someone who was one of four original people who helped found this 'Yarraside' terrace, and let me know that I had been dropped from Outer Core and why that was specifically so.

The point is, the theory about rising through the ranks and putting your hand up to help, don't match with actions of the 'Yarraside Core' in reality.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with you as individuals, you are all great people in person, but the Yarraside Core as a group is seriously flawed and disorganised at times, which is to the detriment of the Yarraside as a whole.

 

Couldn't agree more, exactly what i was trying to say.         

Edited April 14, 2014 by THB

[xXJawsaXx]

I am saying this as somebody who is looking from the outside in, I am a relative 'nobody', and I am rather happy about that, I go to games, stand in Yarraside and chant with other people who are passionate about this club. Whilst I would like to contribute more somewhat, I am more than happy to donate money when need be, and fill in on drums if I need to, besides, it is likely that I will be studying overseas next year, so I will only be around for half of next season anyway. As a nobody, and as somebody who is not close to the core in any way, shape or form, I see little evidence of a 'divided terrace' when I am at the games. Now, just because I see 'little evidence' doesn't mean I am completely blind to the divides that do exist, it is just not incredibly noticeable, to me anyway.

However, I do feel that the terrace can be rather 'exclusive' in regards to letting people in and accepting new ideas. Of course, I am saying this as a casual observer on these forums, so the reality may be different, but this thread validates 'to me anyway' that this is true. I appreciate all of the work the core does, and I understand that they put a lot of time and effort into running the terrace, and I cannot imagine how much they have to sacrifice to make tifos and such, but I do think that Yarraside could be slightly more 'welcoming'. It bothers me when there are arguments during games, and I think that is an aspect that needs to be stamped out.

In regards to chants, we need new ones, when I was on drums on Friday near the capo, we kind of ran out of chants, I knew this was a problem beforehand, but it was only then that I kind of realised this was a somewhat serious problem. I would say that some chants need to be 'retired' but honestly, we need all the chants we can get.

Sorry, if this seems rather incoherent, they are just my thoughts on the terrace, and I do not mean to offend, or downplay the work that the core does, they are just casual observations really.

[Nate]

I am saying this as somebody who is looking from the outside in, I am a relative 'nobody', and I am rather happy about that, I go to games, stand in Yarraside and chant with other people who are passionate about this club. Whilst I would like to contribute more somewhat, I am more than happy to donate money when need be, and fill in on drums if I need to, besides, it is likely that I will be studying overseas next year, so I will only be around for half of next season anyway. As a nobody, and as somebody who is not close to the core in any way, shape or form, I see little evidence of a 'divided terrace' when I am at the games. Now, just because I see 'little evidence' doesn't mean I am completely blind to the divides that do exist, it is just not incredibly noticeable, to me anyway.

However, I do feel that the terrace can be rather 'exclusive' in regards to letting people in and accepting new ideas. Of course, I am saying this as a casual observer on these forums, so the reality may be different, but this thread validates 'to me anyway' that this is true. I appreciate all of the work the core does, and I understand that they put a lot of time and effort into running the terrace, and I cannot imagine how much they have to sacrifice to make tifos and such, but I do think that Yarraside could be slightly more 'welcoming'. It bothers me when there are arguments during games, and I think that is an aspect that needs to be stamped out.

In regards to chants, we need new ones, when I was on drums on Friday near the capo, we kind of ran out of chants, I knew this was a problem beforehand, but it was only then that I kind of realised this was a somewhat serious problem. I would say that some chants need to be 'retired' but honestly, we need all the chants we can get.

Sorry, if this seems rather incoherent, they are just my thoughts on the terrace, and I do not mean to offend, or downplay the work that the core does, they are just casual observations really.

Pretty much my sentiments as well.

[carlings]

 

I am saying this as somebody who is looking from the outside in, I am a relative 'nobody', and I am rather happy about that, I go to games, stand in Yarraside and chant with other people who are passionate about this club. Whilst I would like to contribute more somewhat, I am more than happy to donate money when need be, and fill in on drums if I need to, besides, it is likely that I will be studying overseas next year, so I will only be around for half of next season anyway. As a nobody, and as somebody who is not close to the core in any way, shape or form, I see little evidence of a 'divided terrace' when I am at the games. Now, just because I see 'little evidence' doesn't mean I am completely blind to the divides that do exist, it is just not incredibly noticeable, to me anyway.

However, I do feel that the terrace can be rather 'exclusive' in regards to letting people in and accepting new ideas. Of course, I am saying this as a casual observer on these forums, so the reality may be different, but this thread validates 'to me anyway' that this is true. I appreciate all of the work the core does, and I understand that they put a lot of time and effort into running the terrace, and I cannot imagine how much they have to sacrifice to make tifos and such, but I do think that Yarraside could be slightly more 'welcoming'. It bothers me when there are arguments during games, and I think that is an aspect that needs to be stamped out.

In regards to chants, we need new ones, when I was on drums on Friday near the capo, we kind of ran out of chants, I knew this was a problem beforehand, but it was only then that I kind of realised this was a somewhat serious problem. I would say that some chants need to be 'retired' but honestly, we need all the chants we can get.

Sorry, if this seems rather incoherent, they are just my thoughts on the terrace, and I do not mean to offend, or downplay the work that the core does, they are just casual observations really.

Pretty much my sentiments as well.

 

Yeh word to that, I'm casual, don't know a heap of crew, but love game day and the atmosphere. Hopefully this "new start" can bring us all a bit closer. Love the work that YSide do and just hope we can all move forward together because there are super exciting times ahead.

[Nate]

I'd be more than happy to meet some of you lads, at the moment I kind of just go to the games and then go home ahaha

[BeardedHeart]

I put my hand up after the game to be full time capo. I know most of the songs. Yes I know its not yarraside but you ask heart supporters who know me from richmond tigers. This is what I do week in week out at the games. The offer is there anyway

[CALZALOL]

Whilst I don't attend the imperial due to one reason or another (particularly being u18) and, I have in the past made a bad name for myself and rightfully copped it for it. I haven't let that stop me from cooperating and coexisting in yside, their may be people I don't exactly like the social skills of and their ego; but I consistently let it go as it is not worth the strain it puts on yside as a whole - when there is an internal conflict.

Fuck having a dig at each other chaps, go and take it out on wsw or fucktree fans!

EDIT: Whilst I may have an alignment with a particular group or two in the terrace, I see both (all?) sides of the disagreement.

Edited June 4, 2014 by CALZALOL

[Jimmy]

I nominate myself for full time capo for the next 20 years. Whilst I have no experience in capoing, I am quite articulate and a gifted public speaker. There are various reason why I am the best man for the job:

- I'm 6'1" tall so should be able to see all the going ons in the terrace whilst standing on a chair

- I got a perfect mark on my year 12 oral presentation so I can talk good and hold people's attention

- I'm not a twelvie like half of YSIDE

- I played "Big Arthur" in my year 6 play, who was the main antagonist, so I have experience singing in front of crowds

- I know most of the chants

- I'm physically strong enough to hold the mega.

- I didn't think green street hooligans was an enjoyable film

- I can drink lots of beer and still function efficiently, although I get a bit sexually inappropriate

- I work for the North Melbourne Football Club so I can recruit their cheer squad to help make tifos.

I'll get the ship back on track, don't you worry.

#jimmyforcapo

Edited June 23, 2014 by Jimmy

[heartrate]

I put my hand up after the game to be full time capo. I know most of the songs. Yes I know its not yarraside but you ask heart supporters who know me from richmond tigers. This is what I do week in week out at the games. The offer is there anyway

grog squad champion right here!

[Boffins]

My vote goes to bearded heart, I know you and I personally think you'd do a good job.

[TOPCAT]

^ Agree

[Embee]

Also know BeardedHeart and reckon he'd do a top job if given the chance!

[marn11]

I don't know BeardedHeart, but having a bearded man as the face of the terrace will reap rewards.

 

Gets my vote also. 

[marteaux]

Work behind the scenes will soon come to light. The coup will involve Tomby being installed as capo in addition to being the Supreme Leader of Yarraside.

Bow down to your new overlord.

Edited April 15, 2014 by marteaux

[bazzatron]

All hail Tomby!

[cadete]

Seems like only yesterday when he conquered the South East...

[Tesla]

I hope Tomby got his invite to cadete's wedding at The Twins

Edited April 15, 2014 by Tesla

[bt50]

[marteaux]

He certainly is an ambitious and seemingly power hungry leader, but living under his rule in the South East I know better than anyone else that he is a hard but fair ruler. A benevolent dictator who loves his subjects but is seldom shy from punishing them when necessary.

 

Rumour has it RWU, Red Dogz and Tim's faltering West Side terrace are next on Tomby's expansionist agenda.

 

[cadete]

He certainly is an ambitious and seemingly power hungry leader, but living under his rule in the South East I know better than anyone else that he is a hard but fair ruler. A benevolent dictator who loves his subjects but is seldom shy from punishing them when necessary.

 

Rumour has it RWU, Red Dogz and Tim's faltering West Side terrace are next on Tomby's expansionist agenda.

 

Tomby of Macedon.

[Boffins]

game of tombys

[Bannon]

chriss munn for capo.

[marteaux]

The shift towards British style support is fucking crap and is what is holding back Yarraside from being a decent terrace.

Bring back the Euro steez next season.