Tbitm Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Still a possible table outcome. Looking at our fixtures 20 v Brisbane @ AAMI 21 v Visitors @ AAMI 22 v Newcastle @ Hunter 23 v Wellington @ AAMI 24 v Central Coast @ AAMI 25 v Brisbane @ Suncorp 26 v Adelaide @ Hindmarsh 27 v Wanderers @ AAMI I see a lot of points up for grabs in these games, could honestly see us going on to win the next 5 games if everyones fit and we stay in form. Last 3 are very tough games though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 All I see is A LOT of game time before we can get carried away with even a possible finals spot. Top spot? Clearly taking the piss you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbitm Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 All I see is A LOT of game time before we can get carried away with even a possible finals spot. Top spot? Clearly taking the piss you are. Obviously the ladder was a joke, Us top and visitors bottom. Would streak our next derby game and take a shit on M#sk@t's lap if that happens. Honestly Just wanted to make a counter thread to the "seasons over" one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koerner4 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Need at least 4 wins from the next 5 if we have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Have we ever had a full squad vs Victory? I hope we put 5 past them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 All I see is A LOT of game time before we can get carried away with even a possible finals spot. Top spot? Clearly taking the piss you are. Obviously the ladder was a joke, Us top and visitors bottom. Would streak our next derby game and take a shit on M#sk@t's lap if that happens. Honestly honestly you wouldn't but ok mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 such a shame that Newcastle pulled a result today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 such a shame that Newcastle pulled a result today! It doesn't really matter that the jets won as were still be 7 points from 6th and we are now only 3 points from ninth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexli Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Have we ever had a full squad vs Victory? I hope we put 5 past them. As Visitors have to travel to Guangzhou face ACL champion on 26th Feb, we have a huge chance to put 5 past them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Great thread. I think Roar lost today under the pressure generated by our win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 One game at a time gents, all it takes is for one off day or one bullshit deflection and we're right back to earth. However, i can't see us putting in another half assed performance this season, if we were to lose again this season, it's going to take a real good performance to beat us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 More seriously several weeks ago (after the draw in Adelaide) i thought we were a small chance to get to 33 points and I thought if we could do that we'd probably "suck up" enough points from those around us that we'd be 6th (or damn close). At that time I figured to do that we'd need umpteen wins and only 3 draws with just the one loss. Now to get to 33 we "only" need 15 points from 8 games. It actually looks possible (though no guarantee 33 would give you anything, probably need 38 for certainty). Anyway all that's as may be. Loving the performances right now, so long may they continue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They_Call_Me_Keiran_Lee_69 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 the best would be if we finish 6'th and victory finish 3rd. would be a great spectacle. doubt it will happen but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 the best would be if we finish 6'th and victory finish 3rd. would be a great spectacle. doubt it will happen but. Yeah you're right, Victory will probably miss out on finals at this rate. Would have been good to have an easy match straight up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) I think it's pretty possible, if the good form can be maintained and we can avoid serious injuries. If we win our remaining '6 pointers', the matches against Wellington (which is at AAMI) and Newcastle and possibly Adelaide, then we're pretty close to the finals. Also, we have 4 games against top 5 sides at AAMI Park (Brisbane, Victory, Central Coast, Wanderers). We've won every home game (at AAMI and Albury) under JVS, so I reckon we can maybe win multiple of these games. So beat Wellington and Newcastle and get maybe 3 other wins and we're in with a pretty good chance to scrape into the finals by my math. Edited February 16, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Looking at who we have to play some serious points up for grabs however we will need other results to swing our way...next two weeks are huge. Season not over just yet but 1shit result now will fuck it all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Just realised I am, plus a couple of other lads are attending 7 of those final 8 games! What a period we have ahead of us!!! Long may today's form continue and we keep pushing! Nothing to lose, all to gain. Come on you boys in red!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 You guys must be on cloud 9 at the moment What do you put the improvement in the teams performances? Is it the change in manager? The players playing for their future? Whatever it is, it seems to be working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 You guys must be on cloud 9 at the moment What do you put the improvement in the teams performances? Is it the change in manager? The players playing for their future? Whatever it is, it seems to be working Just a competent manager and getting a few key players back from injuries. Could be playing for their future as well but you can never tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I think it's pretty possible, if the good form can be maintained and we can avoid serious injuries. If we win our remaining '6 pointers', the matches against Wellington (which is at AAMI) and Newcastle and possibly Adelaide, then we're pretty close to the finals. Also, we have 4 games against top 5 sides at AAMI Park (Brisbane, Victory, Central Coast, Wanderers). We've won every home game (at AAMI and Albury) under JVS, so I reckon we can maybe win multiple of these games. So beat Wellington and Newcastle and get maybe 3 other wins and we're in with a pretty good chance to scrape into the finals by my math. Agree with you about the "6 pointers". Look what yesterday did to Wellington. Riding a form wave to 6th, now looking rudderless and 2 points outside the 6. I don't think the game vs Adelaide will be one of those though - they are going to finish 2nd i reckon. I do genuinely think that the Derby and Central Coast are though - both those teams are struggling right now and could be rounded up in the final games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 You guys must be on cloud 9 at the moment What do you put the improvement in the teams performances? Is it the change in manager? The players playing for their future? Whatever it is, it seems to be working Change of manager. JA was a complete novice who had no training and seemed to have no natural feel for the job and how to get the team to play. JVS while not the greatest manager in the is decent by and measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cunado Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Looking at the upcoming fixtures, we should be looking at wins in at least four out of the next five games. Obviously form dips and rises in the a-league more so then pretty much any league in the world, however I doubt confidence has ever been higher in any Heart team (heard to believe for a bottom of the ladder team). 20 v Brisbane @ AAMI - Draw. Will be aiming for a win and playing for a win (which probably wouldn't have happened with JA). JVS has a great record vs. Brisbane and he'd be tactically superior to Mulvey. The loss of Robbie W is a big one but Brisbane have looked shakey. Will be pessimistic and go with a draw. 21 v Visitors @ AAMI Win. Horrendous coach who got a win on the weekend due to a range of injuries/ visa denials/ travel advantage and having some very good players in his team that remember what Ange told them several months back. The fact that the Visitors have to travel to China the week before the match means that anything less then an 8-0 win is unacceptable. 22 v Newcastle @ Hunter Win. Stop Taggart and stop Goodwin (if he can be bothered playing in this game) and we win. That simple. Newcastle beat Brisbane on the weekend, but are a very average team. 23 v Wellington @ AAMI Win. 5-0. 24 v Central Coast @ AAMI Win. This team is in free-fall. Will be interesting to see how the Korean lad is going by this point but that team has been decimated and the replacement coach isn't all that. It was only a mix of Sainsbury and incredible missed chances that cost us the win last time. The game being at home should only improve matters. Realistically, if we are able to get 3-4 wins in those games, finals are a great chance. Its amazing how quickly things have turned around for this club. Guess thats what happens when the coach knows what he's doing and actually plays to his players strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 And to think we still have Mifsud to come back in! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1800 Gerhardt Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 You guys must be on cloud 9 at the moment What do you put the improvement in the teams performances? Is it the change in manager? The players playing for their future? Whatever it is, it seems to be working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Fred has been a gimp towards Melbourne Heart on Twitter. He can get fucked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Fred has been a gimp towards Melbourne Heart on Twitter. He can get fucked. he has certainly seemed somewhat bitter at times considering we cut him when he wanted to stay etc. is he even playing anymore??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Van't Schip leads Heart transformation Michael Lynch February 17, 2014 John van't Schip's got priors at this sort of thing, galvanising his Melbourne Heart team to performances few expected. Two years ago, in his second season as coach of then A-League newboys Heart, he guided the club on a barnstorming run that took them to nosebleed heights, albeit temporarily, at the top end of the table. Included in that sequence was a momentous 4-0 away triumph in Sydney, a game that up to Sunday's 5-0 demolition of Wellington in New Zealand, was perhaps a high water mark in the club's history. The extraordinary win at Westpac Stadium on Sunday probably eclipses the Sydney triumph as it set all sorts of records. It was the club's greatest margin of victory and the first time a Heart player – the oft-maligned striker David Williams – had scored a hat-trick in a match. More to the point, it was Heart's first victory outside of Melbourne in more than two years – a statistic almost as extraordinary as the scoreline was unpredictable. Ironically, it was that previous benchmark, the easy win in Sydney, that was the last time Heart won a game outside its home state. van't Schip and the Heart hierarchy will be desperately hoping that the Phoenix thrashing does not presage a similar long slump. Heart remained competive for the rest of that season and made the finals for the only time in its history. But it was a short lived affair, the team exiting in week one after a defeat in Perth. The Dutchman left shortly after, and until his return just after Christmas, the club's narrative had been grim. Under his successor, John Aloisi, they did manage one away win, but that hardly counted as it was the cross-city derby with Melbourne Victory. The transformation that has been wrought since the former Dutch international's return has been remarkable. Under Aloisi, Heart had at times been desperately unlucky and had played much better than results might have indicated. But the reality was that after 12 games the red and whites still had not won this season and had only four points. In the seven games since van't Schip assumed responsibility for the first team Heart, along with Adelaide, has been the form team of the competition. The red and whites have won four, drawn twice and only lost once (in Perth) in that time, taking 14 points out of a possible 21. Now fans are even daring to dream that they could make a late, improbable charge for the finals. It would be an astonishing feat if the club, whose biggest claim to recent fame was that it was bought by Premier League plutocrats Manchester City earlier this year, could do what looked like the impossible and actually make the top six. Its still a huge ask, especially as Newcastle hauled itself back into contention with a 1-0 win over Brisbane at Suncorp, but its not as outlandish an idea as it might have seemed even a week ago. Heart is still bottom of the table, but it is now only three points behind second-last Perth Glory and, more importantly, seven points behind sixth-placed Sydney. Each team has eight games to play, and Heart would probably need a points tally of around 35 to make it, which would mean it might need to take as many as 17 points out of the last 24, a tall order indeed. Then again, if the trend of this season continues, with each club seemingly capable of turning any other over on any given weekend, then a lower tally might be enough. Perth Glory finished sixth last season with 32 points, while Heart themselves garnered 37 when they took sixth the year before in 2011/12. In the 2010/11 campaign teams played 30 games, so sixth-placed Wellington's 41 points that year is not a fair comparison. The year before, 2009/10, Newcastle took the last finals berth with a total of 34 points. Before that comparisons are pointless as it was an eight team league with just 21 games in the home and away season. Heart's draw gives it a chance, with five of the red and white's last eight games at home, including the final derby of the season against a Victory team that will be handicapped by having to play its opening Asian Champions League match against Guangzhou Evegrande in China just three days before. HEART'S FANTASY ROAD TO THE FINALS. February 23 – v Brisbane at home. Roar coming off the back of a home loss to the Jets will be desperate to bounce back. March 1 - v Victory at home. Kevin Muscat's side could be there for the taking as it will be backing up from ACL trip to China. March 8 v Newcastle Jets away. Novocastrians dealt themselves back into race and will be hard to beat in the Hunter Valley. March 16 v Wellington, home. Ernie Merrick's men beat Heart in Melbourne just before Christmas and will be smarting from their weekend humiliation in front of their own fans. March 23 v Central Coast, home. Winnable looking game against a Mariners side in transition and struggling for rhythm. March 28 v Brisbane away. Toughest assignment of them all. Will need to have garnered plenty of points ahead of this fixture to have any chance. April 4 v Adelaide away. Another difficult fixture, but Heart should have beaten the Reds at Coopers Stadium last time and will have no fear against the South Australians. April 12 v Western Sydney Wanderers, home. If Heart needs points for the finals and Wanderers a win to take the Premiership expect fireworks. http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/vant-schip-leads-heart-transformation-20140217-32vat.html Edited February 17, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 If Van't Schip Is The Man - We'll Pay For Your Tan! February 17, 2014 Posted in Media Releases Dutch Orange Who would’ve thought – Melbourne Heart fans are now dreaming of the finals after slamming five goals past Wellington to extend their unbeaten streak to five games. The main reason behind Heart’s late season renaissance is no doubt due to the second coming of their coach, the bronzed John Van’t Schip. In honour of the Dutchman and his sun kissed looks, Sportsbet will pay for Melbourne Heart fans to get spray-on tans should the team qualify for the finals. “We’re not sure what it is with Melbourne Heart coaches and their bronzed look. First it was Van’t Schip, then John Aloisi and now Van Schip again,” sportsbet.com.au’s Ben Hawes said. “In Van’t Schip’s honour, we want to see a sea of orange, red and white!” Should the Heart make the finals, Sportsbet will pay for 1 full body spray on tan for the first 250 Heart fans during the week of their first finals match. The Heart are now into $3.30 to make the finals, in from as much as $10 only weeks ago. http://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/sportsbet-media/if-vant-schip-is-the-man-well-pay-for-your-tan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 This from Lynchy "April 12 v Western Sydney Wanderers, home. If Heart needs points for the finals and Wanderers a win to take the Premiership expect fireworks." I had this thought as well. Only bloody idle thinking but geez Melbourne town would go off if a win on April 12 was required to make the finals. Half AAMI. stadium would be packed with Tards wanting to see us lose hahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Fred just can't seem to learn.. Why was he cut at the end of ,last season? Simple, he was never fit. Its not hard to see why to anyone with sense. . He did very well when he played, but he couldn't run out a match and didn't seem to understand that he needed to come off the field when he couldn't run anymore. His attitude at such moments was very unprofessional from what his body language was saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Remember the game he was subbed off and didn't shake jvs hand? What a karnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Three wins from eight games could see Melbourne Heart into the A-League finals David Davutovic February 20 2014 MELBOURNE Heart could sneak into the top six with as little as three more wins in their final eight games despite being winless for the opening 14 rounds of the season Since John van’t Schip replaced John Aloisi in December, Heart is the A-League’s form side claiming 14 of a possible 21 points — Adelaide United and Wellington have also claimed 14 points but Heart has a superior goal difference. Cellar-dwellers Heart are on 18 points, seven points adrift of sixth-place Sydney FC, but like last season 32 points could be enough to make the finals. So scenarios such as (win-draw-loss) 5-0-3 (15 points), 3-5-0 and 4-2-2 (14 points) would ensure Heart is at the very least in the mix come the end of the season. And for a team with a team with a record of 4-2-1 in its last seven, that’s broken its away hoodoo with a 5-0 win and plays five of its last eight at home, Heart will surely give it a shake. There are parallels at either end of the table, with the wooden spooner likely to again be around the 27 point mark, while whoever wins the Premier’s Plate is unlikely to reach Western Sydney’s tally of 57 points from 2012-13. Pacesetter Brisbane Roar (38 points) would need six wins, one draw and one loss from its remaining games to reach the Wanderers’ tally but its recent run suggests that’s unlikely even though they are odds on to finish first. That augurs for an even tighter tussle below, with the only uncertainty being Jekyll and Hyde side Sydney FC. Adelaide and Melbourne Victory (third and fourth) have too many matchwinners to drop away and while the fifth-place Mariners are battling the reigning champions seem too resilient not too pick up at least two wins from their final eight. Frank Farina’s side has 25 points and another three wins would all but secure a finals berth and having solidified the side with Socceroos defender Sasa Ognenovski and elegant former Nantes midfielder Milos Dimitrijevic. But you wouldn’t put anything past the Hollywood FC of the A-League whose fans were calling for the head of Farina and chairman Scott Barlow. While a win for Heart against Brisbane on Sunday at AAMI Park would continue its momentum it’s by no means a must. What’s more vital is that Heart wins its games against those teams in its vicinity, such as Newcastle Jets (away, Round 22), Wellington Phoenix (AAMI Park, Round 23) and Central Coast (AAMI Park, Round 24). Versatile Argentine Jonatan Germano looks set to return from injury although Harry Kewell (toe) is unlikely to play while defender Rob Wielaert (suspended) will miss the match. Maltese striker Michael Mifsud could be set for a recall after being named in the preliminary squad. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/three-wins-from-eight-games-could-see-melbourne-heart-into-the-aleague-finals/story-fnk6pqhd-1226833102830 Edited February 20, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I like how David says a loss is not the end of our run for finals, does he have a soft spot for heart? And Hollywood FC? Hahaha nice little smart arse dig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 On a sour note to our chances in next weeks derby Pablo Contreras has picked up his 8th yellow and will be suspended next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Perfect. They'll have a junior back line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Milligan to CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 On a sour note to our chances in next weeks derby Pablo Contreras has picked up his 8th yellow and will be suspended next week. Leijer still injured too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbitm Posted February 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 On a sour note to our chances in next weeks derby Pablo Contreras has picked up his 8th yellow and will be suspended next week. Leijer still injured too we just have no luck do we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Rogic out injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Just about every game this weekend has gone against us (if we want to make finals) I'd say, need Wanderers to get up tonight. But, as long as we keep winning, we'll be putting the pressure on those above us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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