What jerseys colours do we favour next season irrespective of the franchise name?

[Rellum]

Incidentally, how would Heart fans feel about a specific competition strip for playing in Asia?  (which would include some home games obviously, and might mean a change in that specific competition from red and white).  I assume maximum TV exposure would be gained during those matches, and it could well be an objective of the new owners to eventually do well in that competition.  Is that something that could be tolerated?

 

Sky blue trim at the most. Away and third strips not so worried about.

Edited January 26, 2014 by Rellum

[The Aardvark]

I like how he says this

as long as they do not play in the red colours of City's hated Manchester rival. United

and then goes on to say that maybe we could play in City's away kit, which is red and black. Wtf?

[oeokosko]

 

I like how he says this

 

as long as they do not play in the red colours of City's hated Manchester rival. United

and then goes on to say that maybe we could play in City's away kit, which is red and black. Wtf?

 

 

Edited January 26, 2014 by oeokosko

[Falastur]

 

http://shop.mcfc.co.uk/stores/mancity/products/product_details.aspx?pid=124044

 

Say what ?? it might be more of a pink. Hard to tell exactly, but still.

Yes, pink and white and it looks ghastly but a few women do wear them.

 

I'd argue it's more maroon, which City have a longer association with than the red and black stripes. We won the FA Cup in 1956 wearing this, for example:

 

[Red or Dead]

 

 

http://shop.mcfc.co.uk/stores/mancity/products/product_details.aspx?pid=124044

 

Say what ?? it might be more of a pink. Hard to tell exactly, but still.

Yes, pink and white and it looks ghastly but a few women do wear them.

 

I'd argue it's more maroon, which City have a longer association with than the red and black stripes. We won the FA Cup in 1956 wearing this, for example:

 

 

That's actually a nice looking top, but still prefer our red & white stripes! haha

That red above is more of a Western Sydney Wanderers red however very nice with the thin white stripes :-)

[dRoy]

Majority of these posts are from people who still want Red and white stripes to remain.

Pretty much giving ideas for a scenario of you cannot have red and white stripes anymore.

I think we will remain red and white stripes at home.

But IF we had to change our kit, I would hate it.

I'd hope for something maroon and white. With sky blue collars. Haha.

[Dr.Dreas]

It's pretty simple keep the home top to red and white stripes, change the away top to white or black with a blue trim...third kit do what ever the fuck u like...

Otherwise there will be thousands and thousands of dollars worth of merchandise down the shitter for those loyal fans (for eg me)

[Red or Dead]

For starters HEART who play in the A-LEAGUE wear RED & WHITE striped tops with RED shorts and RED socks!

Rags United who play in the ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE wear RED tops with WHITE shorts and BLACK socks! So Heart is just as far from looking like Man United as we are separated by distance and continents so I'm sure we don't and won't remind you of your arch-rivals by keeping the red & white.

 

Although our parent company is now Manchester City it does not mean we have to wear the same kit Manchester City wears! Unlike NYCFC, we are an existing club playing in a city where our arch rivals wear Blue and White and in a league of 10 club where there is already a sky blue team.

 

As Soriano and many of you have said, we are not and will not be Man City 'lite' or 'mini' City, we are Melbourne Heart and we need to keep the little identity we've managed to create for ourselves.

 

If fitting into Manchester City's mould and philosophy means changing our name to Melbourne City, then fine, that's something many of us are willing to compromise, but c'mon guys, we are the Heart of Melbourne and Melbourne is RED & WHITE!

[jw1739]

I honestly don't think it's worth putting too much into this topic on a public forum at the moment. In fact it could be counter-productive and give the impression that Heart supporters are willing to negotiate and compromise the red-and-white position right from the start. Everything we've heard suggests that our new owners will consult, listen and learn for the remainder of this season, and I can't see any reason to doubt them. We don't know how they'll go about consultation and listening - maybe we should keep our powder dry until we know what processes will be used. IMO the same applies for anything to do with our "identity' in terms of kit, logo, motto, songs, etc. etc.

 

I see no reason why people should not get prepared if they want to draw up their own ideas, but I don't see the point of doing it publicly. The more we lead the discussion in public the more people who have nothing to do with the club will see fit to throw in their opinions on something that they know bugger all about. Such as the City of Melbourne, politicians, journos, "celebrities", armchair experts who've never been near AAMI Park, and anyone else who thinks that they can get a bit of exposure, influence or advantage by doing so, but hasn't cared a toss about Melbourne Heart up to now. As well as Lynch stirring the pot we've also got Mike Cockroach on the HAL web-site giving us his august opinion.

 

Just my opinion FWIW.

[Red or Dead]

Fair points! We will trust them until we get screwed over (I'm not saying that'll happen).

 

I was chatting to a German and a Cypriot at the tennis Aus Open last week; the Cypriot said, "you cannot trust anyone with your money because the Cyrpriot government promised "we will never take your hard earned money from your bank account"", but they did. The German guy said, "the German government said the same thing, but it hasn't happened so I will continue to trust them until it does!" Lol

[Shahanga]

 

I honestly don't think it's worth putting too much into this topic on a public forum at the moment. In fact it could be counter-productive and give the impression that Heart supporters are willing to negotiate and compromise the red-and-white position right from the start. Everything we've heard suggests that our new owners will consult, listen and learn for the remainder of this season, and I can't see any reason to doubt them. We don't know how they'll go about consultation and listening - maybe we should keep our powder dry until we know what processes will be used. IMO the same applies for anything to do with our "identity' in terms of kit, logo, motto, songs, etc. etc.

 

I see no reason why people should not get prepared if they want to draw up their own ideas, but I don't see the point of doing it publicly. The more we lead the discussion in public the more people who have nothing to do with the club will see fit to throw in their opinions on something that they know bugger all about. Such as the City of Melbourne, politicians, journos, "celebrities", armchair experts who've never been near AAMI Park, and anyone else who thinks that they can get a bit of exposure, influence or advantage by doing so, but hasn't cared a toss about Melbourne Heart up to now. As well as Lynch stirring the pot we've also got Mike Cockroach on the HAL web-site giving us his august opinion.

 

Just my opinion FWIW.

Agree jw. Our enthusiastic brothers publicly preparing alternative strips "just in case we get our red & white canned" are not doing us any favours. I've made my position pretty clear on the colours I thought. For those that don't agree with me, for the sake of the 90% who don't want to roll over on the colours on day 1, can we PLEASE stop the fawning?

Edited January 26, 2014 by Shahanga

[thedukeofhearts]

[Rellum]

I honestly don't think it's worth putting too much into this topic on a public forum at the moment. In fact it could be counter-productive and give the impression that Heart supporters are willing to negotiate and compromise the red-and-white position right from the start. Everything we've heard suggests that our new owners will consult, listen and learn for the remainder of this season, and I can't see any reason to doubt them. We don't know how they'll go about consultation and listening - maybe we should keep our powder dry until we know what processes will be used. IMO the same applies for anything to do with our "identity' in terms of kit, logo, motto, songs, etc. etc.

 

I see no reason why people should not get prepared if they want to draw up their own ideas, but I don't see the point of doing it publicly. The more we lead the discussion in public the more people who have nothing to do with the club will see fit to throw in their opinions on something that they know bugger all about. Such as the City of Melbourne, politicians, journos, "celebrities", armchair experts who've never been near AAMI Park, and anyone else who thinks that they can get a bit of exposure, influence or advantage by doing so, but hasn't cared a toss about Melbourne Heart up to now. As well as Lynch stirring the pot we've also got Mike Cockroach on the HAL web-site giving us his august opinion.

 

Just my opinion FWIW.

I thank you for this. Solidifies my desire for the red and white.

[Falastur]

I honestly don't think it's worth putting too much into this topic on a public forum at the moment. In fact it could be counter-productive and give the impression that Heart supporters are willing to negotiate and compromise the red-and-white position right from the start. Everything we've heard suggests that our new owners will consult, listen and learn for the remainder of this season, and I can't see any reason to doubt them. We don't know how they'll go about consultation and listening - maybe we should keep our powder dry until we know what processes will be used. IMO the same applies for anything to do with our "identity' in terms of kit, logo, motto, songs, etc. etc.

 

Yes and no. It should be mentioned that Khaldoon (Mansour's Chairman of the board, the guy who actually runs City day to day - Ferran Soriano's boss, etc) has said before that he does read our Bluemoon forum, but I wouldn't be too worried - he comes as a very intelligent and understanding guy, and I think he would realise that this is all speculation and that you want the red and white stripes to remain.

Edited January 26, 2014 by Falastur

[Viva el City]

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

[Rellum]

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

Nice to know. And lets be honest almost all of the talk of changing colours is coming from rival fans and journos fishing.

 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-heart-fans-see-red-over-change-of-clubs-colours-after-manchester-city-deal-20140126-31gwl.html

[thedukeofhearts]

 

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

Nice to know. And lets be honest almost all of the talk of changing colours is coming from rival fans and journos fishing.

 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-heart-fans-see-red-over-change-of-clubs-colours-after-manchester-city-deal-20140126-31gwl.html

 

I'd put more faith in one of those dodgy phone in psychics then these journos to actually know what's going on haha 

[navinarun]

I think we should keep the logo and colours! As long as we get some new Nike kits. The Kappa ones are terrible and I think we would see a huge increase in merchandise sales with Nike. 

[Melburnian]

Nike or Adidas would be amazing.

I speak for only myself but I would welcome the name change, I actually prefer Melbourne City FC and having the nickname Heart.

Again the colours remain. I'm confident they will.

[thedukeofhearts]

It would actually make sense to try and sponsor us now. Victory - Adidas, Heart - nike......Sydney - Adidas, WSW - nike

[jw1739]

I'm not going to make any further comment on colours, but we do need to fix those stupid turtlenecks. I just looked at the WSW-Perth video and seen the Perth jerseys - they have the most sensible necks for summer football.

[tigerou812]

We could go for a singlet type top like the hockey players did a few years back. Like the training top we have now?

[thedukeofhearts]

I say we play in skins !! muahahahahah

[thedukeofhearts]

oooooor we could turn the football world on it's head hahahahah

 

[Ando]

I think that was me. Directed repeatedly at Demon_Heart

[Huzie]

Long sleeve shirts maybe?

[Huzie]

Hopefully we'll be able to purchase players names on the back of kits directly from our website!

[thedukeofhearts]

Hopefully we'll be able to purchase players names on the back of kits directly from our website!

and not have to go to sports shops and have them to put Teera instead of Terra like my friends top hahaha. 

[belaguttman]

 

Hopefully we'll be able to purchase players names on the back of kits directly from our website!

and not have to go to sports shops and have them to put Teera instead of Terra like my friends top hahaha. 

 

At least it wasn't a tattoo!

[thedukeofhearts]

 

 

Hopefully we'll be able to purchase players names on the back of kits directly from our website!

and not have to go to sports shops and have them to put Teera instead of Terra like my friends top hahaha. 

 

At least it wasn't a tattoo!

 

hahahaha yeah, plus he got it for free in the end

[SF33]

 

Nice to know. And lets be honest almost all of the talk of changing colours is coming from rival fans and journos fishing.

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-heart-fans-see-red-over-change-of-clubs-colours-after-manchester-city-deal-20140126-31gwl.html

 

 

Spot on. Let's face it, Even if Manchester City did want to make the primary kit sky blue, they're certainly not dumb enough to shove it down the throats of the people who have stuck with the club through the past two seasons, less than a week after acquiring MH. The 'Melbourne City' thing is a bit different, as registrations have to be made and the like, so a bit of simple investigating reveals things like that. I actually still think 'Heart' is a good name; it's just the onfield performances that have made it sound a bit stupid. So I wouldn't be devastated if that went. The colours are another matter altogether. So, as I see it, Lynch's articles can be based on one of two scenarios:

 

1. Someone (whether it was Lynch himself or someone else) asked Gallop a leading question at the press conference about the league's attitude towards a hypothetical rebranding of the club. And Gallop (whose opinion on these sort of matters, at the end of the day, really doesn't count for much) answers the only way he can, with the non-committal 'We'd be open to that.' Cue article talking about 'Speculation is rife...' and the like. When, in reality, Gallop played a straight bat and his response doesn't mean anything, regarding the direction the club will take.

 

2. Someone from inside the club's administration (or possibly Manchester City, though I doubt it) contacted Lynch as the club is discussing what changes could potentially happen to the colours next year. So Lynch runs the article, they see the response from supporters and they act accordingly.

 

I think all the red and white designs in this thread look fantastic; I just don't really see the need to depart from the red and white stripes. I would be fine with a City away strip and then either a competition winner third kit, the Feyenoord one, the sash...whatever. Hopefully we get Nike on board as well, so we can say goodbye to the ridiculously oversized Kappa logos.

 

To be totally honest, I feel strongly that red and white stripes should always be the home kit, but others probably feel more strongly than me. If we started wearing blue at home matches, I'd be disappointed, but it's probably not a deal breaker for me. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

[belaguttman]

Lynch is trying to create a storm in a teacup by speaking to a few unnamed 'Man City Supporters' in Australia who are 'demanding a colour change to light blue' (as if they run Man City) and then most likely scanning this forum to see that most comments here are in favour of retaining the colours. He then beats it up into a 'conflict'. Best to ignore it. Good to see that the coverage of our club is probably triple that of that other Victorian team since Thursday, a taste of things to come.

[thedukeofhearts]

Lynch is trying to create a storm in a teacup by speaking to a few unnamed 'Man City Supporters' in Australia who are 'demanding a colour change to light blue' (as if they run Man City) and then most likely scanning this forum to see that most comments here are in favour of retaining the colours. He then beats it up into a 'conflict'. Best to ignore it. Good to see that the coverage of our club is probably triple that of that other Victorian team since Thursday, a taste of things to come.

I don't get this 'man city' fans 'demand' we change. Man city have bought us for footballing reasons and they want to grow and have a development program etc etc. Not because they want an australian manchester for there fans to go on their holidays !!! Some go, I won't support them   !! Why do they think they need to ?? They have a team called Manchester City. We have a team called Melbourne Heart. We can scratch each others backs without having to give each other bj's !!

[cookoman]

A good away kit would be the one above but mostly white with a red and sky stripe.

[belaguttman]

Don't worry about it. Lynch has spoken to some self styled 'Man City fan' somewhere in Melbourne who is entitled to an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one but his opinion is no more binding than yours or mine. Ignore Lynch's trolling

[Rellum]

 

 

Nice to know. And lets be honest almost all of the talk of changing colours is coming from rival fans and journos fishing.

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-heart-fans-see-red-over-change-of-clubs-colours-after-manchester-city-deal-20140126-31gwl.html

 

 

Spot on. Let's face it, Even if Manchester City did want to make the primary kit sky blue, they're certainly not dumb enough to shove it down the throats of the people who have stuck with the club through the past two seasons, less than a week after acquiring MH. The 'Melbourne City' thing is a bit different, as registrations have to be made and the like, so a bit of simple investigating reveals things like that. I actually still think 'Heart' is a good name; it's just the onfield performances that have made it sound a bit stupid. So I wouldn't be devastated if that went. The colours are another matter altogether. So, as I see it, Lynch's articles can be based on one of two scenarios:

 

1. Someone (whether it was Lynch himself or someone else) asked Gallop a leading question at the press conference about the league's attitude towards a hypothetical rebranding of the club. And Gallop (whose opinion on these sort of matters, at the end of the day, really doesn't count for much) answers the only way he can, with the non-committal 'We'd be open to that.' Cue article talking about 'Speculation is rife...' and the like. When, in reality, Gallop played a straight bat and his response doesn't mean anything, regarding the direction the club will take.

 

2. Someone from inside the club's administration (or possibly Manchester City, though I doubt it) contacted Lynch as the club is discussing what changes could potentially happen to the colours next year. So Lynch runs the article, they see the response from supporters and they act accordingly.

 

I think all the red and white designs in this thread look fantastic; I just don't really see the need to depart from the red and white stripes. I would be fine with a City away strip and then either a competition winner third kit, the Feyenoord one, the sash...whatever. Hopefully we get Nike on board as well, so we can say goodbye to the ridiculously oversized Kappa logos.

 

To be totally honest, I feel strongly that red and white stripes should always be the home kit, but others probably feel more strongly than me. If we started wearing blue at home matches, I'd be disappointed, but it's probably not a deal breaker for me. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

 

 

Don't worry about it. Lynch has spoken to some self styled 'Man City fan' somewhere in Melbourne who is entitled to an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one but his opinion is no more binding than yours or mine. Ignore Lynch's trolling

Most annoying thing is he is trying to make out the opposition to sky blue is just from a handful of people. One problem is that there was one person he could ring and interview from the Man City supporters group. Do we have such a person? I assume they would come from the Yarraside leadership.

[SF33]

At our next home game can we all get out in red? Even if it is some for of red casuals. Need to send a message.

 

Good point. I haven't been making much effort to wear the colours this season, but will definitely be wearing a red shirt for each remaining home game.

[jw1739]

Lynch is trying to create a storm in a teacup by speaking to a few unnamed 'Man City Supporters' in Australia who are 'demanding a colour change to light blue' (as if they run Man City) and then most likely scanning this forum to see that most comments here are in favour of retaining the colours. He then beats it up into a 'conflict'. Best to ignore it. Good to see that the coverage of our club is probably triple that of that other Victorian team since Thursday, a taste of things to come.

Bela, quite correct. All the journos are shitty because not a single one of them had any idea that the Abu Dhabi Group and Manchester City were anywhere near Melbourne Heart until they read the press release at the same time we did. Since then they have been scrambling to find something to say about it, which of course includes any false negatives that they can possibly conjure up.

 

AFAIK there are a number of branches of the Manchester City Supporters Club (if I've given it the right name) here in Australia and Lynch has spoken with a representative of one of them. IIRC Lynch reported that this representative said something to the effect that the local MCSC would only get behind the Heart if the colours were changed to sky blue. We don't even know whether he said that at all, whether he said it seriously, or as a joke, or as a throw-away line.

 

IMO we should avoid all this speculation. It's all counter-productive and wastes our time. We will find out our owners' intentions all in good time. I also point out something that is largely ignored - that 20% of the new ownership is not the ADG, but is a group led by Bart Campbell and Gerry Ryan. They also will have a view on all these things.

 

Everything I've seen tells me that our new owners are highly professional and will be consultative whilst aiming to give us the very best football to watch as we become the best club in Australia and Asia. I'm excited by what I anticipate is going to unfold from April onwards. In the meantime I reckon all Heart supporters should focus on seeing whether we can salvage something out of this season.

[belaguttman]

 

 

 

Nice to know. And lets be honest almost all of the talk of changing colours is coming from rival fans and journos fishing.

They had summarisers reading the boards for them when the Man City takeover was happening (and afterwards too) - consultation took the form of online questionaires plus some public consultation for locals when the Etihad Campus plans were being formed.

 

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-heart-fans-see-red-over-change-of-clubs-colours-after-manchester-city-deal-20140126-31gwl.html

 

 

Spot on. Let's face it, Even if Manchester City did want to make the primary kit sky blue, they're certainly not dumb enough to shove it down the throats of the people who have stuck with the club through the past two seasons, less than a week after acquiring MH. The 'Melbourne City' thing is a bit different, as registrations have to be made and the like, so a bit of simple investigating reveals things like that. I actually still think 'Heart' is a good name; it's just the onfield performances that have made it sound a bit stupid. So I wouldn't be devastated if that went. The colours are another matter altogether. So, as I see it, Lynch's articles can be based on one of two scenarios:

 

1. Someone (whether it was Lynch himself or someone else) asked Gallop a leading question at the press conference about the league's attitude towards a hypothetical rebranding of the club. And Gallop (whose opinion on these sort of matters, at the end of the day, really doesn't count for much) answers the only way he can, with the non-committal 'We'd be open to that.' Cue article talking about 'Speculation is rife...' and the like. When, in reality, Gallop played a straight bat and his response doesn't mean anything, regarding the direction the club will take.

 

2. Someone from inside the club's administration (or possibly Manchester City, though I doubt it) contacted Lynch as the club is discussing what changes could potentially happen to the colours next year. So Lynch runs the article, they see the response from supporters and they act accordingly.

 

I think all the red and white designs in this thread look fantastic; I just don't really see the need to depart from the red and white stripes. I would be fine with a City away strip and then either a competition winner third kit, the Feyenoord one, the sash...whatever. Hopefully we get Nike on board as well, so we can say goodbye to the ridiculously oversized Kappa logos.

 

To be totally honest, I feel strongly that red and white stripes should always be the home kit, but others probably feel more strongly than me. If we started wearing blue at home matches, I'd be disappointed, but it's probably not a deal breaker for me. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

 

 

Don't worry about it. Lynch has spoken to some self styled 'Man City fan' somewhere in Melbourne who is entitled to an opinion. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one but his opinion is no more binding than yours or mine. Ignore Lynch's trolling

Most annoying thing is he is trying to make out the opposition to sky blue is just from a handful of people. One problem is that there was one person he could ring and interview from the Man City supporters group. Do we have such a person? I assume they would come from the Yarraside leadership.

 

He probably has a mate who is a City supporter

[Jimmy]

Would love an Atletico Madrid style kit. Red and white shirt with the blue shorts. Meeting half way and it looks great imo.