benzema23 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Zahra will be happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Mate, marrone and TARDich were just plain fucking shit. Aloisi done nothing to mix it up, no plan B.. Wait hold on he chucked Hoffman on!! LOL!!! Shittest game I've seen us play bar maybe the final last season. Fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyospliff Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 absoloute shite, hopefully they can turn around from this shocking performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I think we are going to regret appointing two rookie coaches! Not sure what a coach can do, when half our players looked like they couldn't beat Mt Eliza under 12s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not sure what a coach can do, when half our players looked like they couldn't beat Mt Eliza under 12s. Not bring on Hoffman for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 God this is depressing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Did you watch the game with sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 even with Smeltz out they will beat us. 2-0 to the glory boyz called it no plan what so ever. Tadic needs to stop diving as well ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Disgusting, we're always horrible when we play Perth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCRC Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Did you watch the game with sound? tuned it out in my head half of it, get sick of the shed doing the same chants for one minute at a time.. and Harnwell and Cockerill are terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 What a horrible weekend of football, Arsenal lost to Norwich, Borussia Dortmund loosing in the Ruhr-derby and Melbourne Heart going down to that Scottish Premier League team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 What a horrible weekend of football, Arsenal lost to Norwich, Borussia Dortmund loosing in the Ruhr-derby and Melbourne Heart going down to that Scottish Premier League team have you phoned the club about your tactics and formation? really need a new game plan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 The Heart supporters behind me at AAMI Park, who are of Croatian extraction, definitely pronounce Tadic as 'Tardic.' 2-0. After our failure against Wellington last week I'm not surprised. Perth have now put 10 goals past us in three games and we haven't managed a single goal in reply. We do not have the ability to play the ball though midfield or down the wings and create chances, and we simply do not have the firepower in the middle to take those chances. Too many players perform below their potential too often. When Grella is ready bring him into the side as DM. Put Garcia on the left wing, Garrucio on the right wing, and get a bloody centre-forward who can stand up. Get some method for dead-ball kicks. At the end of the season release all those coming out of contract who are not up to scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) HAHA! That would have been some plan B...seriously though we didn't appear to have any plan whatsoever? Did anyone see what we were trying to do? Running around like headless chooks more like it... Still think that the rookie coaches are to be blamed... Edited October 21, 2012 by benzema23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Is it too early to call it a building year. The one thing that is a non-negotiable is for the team to have a consistant attacking system where players who exactly what their role is. Losing with a cohesive system is somewhat acceptable, losing without one is just bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 absolutely hopeless performance. I'm surprised Aloisi took williams off, him and Gerhardt were the only ones who came to play. Dugandzic looked slow, Behich didn't have the best of games, Garcia went missing in the second half, Thompson was playing dumb football, the list goes on. 2 goals we conceded were from silly, silly errors. Marrone's fresh air at the front post for the first, and we got caught out not having a man on the back post in corners for the second (can someone explain to me why we aren't having a man on the back post this season?) We're lucky we have Germano, Garuccio, Colosimo, Grella and Mebrahtu up our sleeve to come in over the next few matches. It didn't help having Fred go off at half time, and going down to 10 men in the 69th minute, but i would've still liked to see us put some more effort in and show some grunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) I'd say it's a building year if the side has mainly younger players in it. Such as last year with Babalj, Hamill and Good. But not when you have quite a few players - e.g. Bolton, Garcia, Grella, Fred, Colosimo, Thompson, Gray - who are coming out of contract at the end of the season and who are all in their 30s. If you mean a building year wrt to coaching, well, that's a hell of a gamble to take. One game doesn't define a season. But it is depressing to see the same sort of performance as we've all seen before on a number of occasions. For example, not having someone on the back post at corners - how many times are we going to make that sort of basic error? Onwards to next Sunday. There are no easy games in the A-League this year. No easybeats like NQF and GCU. Edited October 21, 2012 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Did we put in one good cross for crying out loud! How many times did we manage to pick out the first man? Fergie has assembled a solid lineup of hard, experienced professionals that we don't seem to match up against. We got bumped off our game way tooooo easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Send Tadic Home. Bloody hopless. Made no impac what so ever. Another failure. Cant seem to scout a top striker. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Guys it was a rubbish game but keep the faith. It is still very early in the season and Perth are seriously strong even without Smeltz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Until I die Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 tadic could be a potential maycon, we will have to see, corners were shite. No one is even in the box. Outnumbered 5-1 at times. Look at what Adelaide United do. free kicks were as usual discraseful. But we need to have more long range shots. will be interested to see what happens next week. Also was really annoyed with the one commentator who interviewed fred during the second half, have some standards ffs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 One game and people want Tadic to be sent home. Bloody hell, people are quick to jump on poor performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 not sure what sport we were playing today but it definitely wasnt football. we couldnt even string 2 passes together! for a club that promises attacking type possession football we are playing anything but that. i dont understand why the problems that have been dogging us for 3 seasons now havent been fixed. are we trying to play badly or is our team just plain shit? assessment of some of the players: tadic: waste of a visa spot williams: overrated thompson: also overrated as he offers very little dugandzic: way too weak on the ball fred: should never have been appointed captain. we cant rely on him as his way too injury prone. a back-up attacking mid should've been recruited as hoffman isnt a footballer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Agree with so much of above. As a Gooner, seeing us getting crucified with dead ball situations is just way too much dejavu. Don't know what I did to deserve this in life!! Only plus was Gerhardt, and Williams did have a crack. But the rest of the game looked like an English league 2 last round match between two teams just safe from relegation. No intensity, no desire and no skill. As bad as we were, Perth weren't great either but (like last year) were far more physical on the ball and bossed us a fair bit. We need to be harder in the middle of the park and the final third was plain awful. Balls being bombed in long to god knows who for god knows what. Tadic again looked like an observer and needs to smarten up pretty quickly or the "son of Maycon" tag looms. The guy just looks lost - sad given where he's been. In sport you're only a week away from redemption or purgatory - lets hope it's the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 what a fucken pathetic performance that was. was really dissapointed in marrone and dugantic. Both of them should have to walk back to melbourne after there performances! We looked like a rabble as soon as fred went off. the only possible highlight of this game was the varankovic kid. He had a shot on goal he shoud've buried his first but i actually thought he played reasonably well considering it was his first start. CCM game becomes a big match for us now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 not sure what sport we were playing today but it definitely wasnt football. we couldnt even string 2 passes together! for a club that promises attacking type possession football we are playing anything but that. i dont understand why the problems that have been dogging us for 3 seasons now havent been fixed. are we trying to play badly or is our team just plain shit? assessment of some of the players: tadic: waste of a visa spot williams: overrated thompson: also overrated as he offers very little dugandzic: way too weak on the ball fred: should never have been appointed captain. we cant rely on him as his way too injury prone. a back-up attacking mid should've been recruited as hoffman isnt a footballer. 2 weeks ago..... Tadic: great signs, can't wait til he plays more! Williams: anddddddddddd he is back!!!! ITS THE HAIR I TELL YOU Thompson: great work again, a bit old but solid. Dugandzic: OMGAHWGAH THAT RUN FOR THE SECOND GOAL WAS AMAZING! CAP HIM! Fred: we all know how good he is and tonight he showed it! fred >>>> hoffman >>>>>>> flores it was Perth away, everyone is shit there. next week we will win 3-0 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Perth make every game boring. Perth in general is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandro Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 The good news is that's the last game in Perth this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Two good players, that's it. Gerhardt and Vrankovic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Well that was shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Only saw the fist half, but since everybody says we were even more rubbish in the second half makes me thankful I missed it. I think it is now safe to say this is the sort of football Aloisi's team will dish up for the rest of the season. Longballs, fighting for the ball, knock downs, midfields that don't pass the ball to each other, no system in attack, no patience or creativity. We played exactly the same way in the last game only the players delivered on JA's long ball game plan. In this game they didn't and if you are going to fail in delivering such a dire style of football then you deserve to be lambasted. Vinne Grella can't play soon enough, but he may be a passenger based on JA's game plans so far. He will spend all season watching Gerhardt kick the ball over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Jones Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 The lack of defensive support from our midfielders was disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 The only positive from this game (apart from perhaps Vrankovic's performance) was seeing Adrian Zahra playing again after this attempt on his life: I hope this season goes well for him as he continues to re-build his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I guess the Club Whores were right, paying a bit more to keep Goodwin as a LW/LB would have been a complete waste money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikre Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Was actually painful to watch. I'm reserving my judgement on Tadic but definatly not a very promising start from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Reasonable first half by Heart where they were competitive although rather toothless. The second half they were just supine, completely intimidated by the physicality of Perth as usual. In the last 4 matches against Perth (2x home and away, 1 final, 1 practice game) , the aggregate score is Perth 12 - Heart 0. Says it all. A bit of spine please. I'm yet to see any quality from Tadic. This is the guy that kept Berisha on the bench? Edited October 21, 2012 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco Jones Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Obviously Tadic has struggled so far but I think he suffers from having to play alongside D-Mac. I would like to see him directly replacing D-Mac instead of playing wide or whatever was the intention today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I am a bit suprised that JA didn't put Gray on and move Gerhardt into midfield which would have freed up Garcia and/or Thompson into the playmaker role rather than Tadic who (when he stays on his feet) is more of an out and out striker. With the signing of Grella it would appear that the idea is to use Garcia, Thompson and Fred (plus others) in the more attacking roles and Gerhardt was signed as a defensive mid-fielder. Taking nothing away from the experience of Colosimo, perhaps I just like the idea of Gray and Vrankovic as our centre backs based on the little that I have seen of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 We are still regularly conceding from corners after 2 and a bit seasons. The pattern remains the same, ball not cleared, players ballwatching, ball bounces around in the box, goal conceded. This is a question of organisation and concentration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPM Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I only saw the second half but it was a piss-poor performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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