cadete Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Big game which will be a great indicator of where we really stand in the scheme of things, if we dont get of to a good start I could see things getting a bit out of hand. In saying that I am confident we could get a draw at least - If we are a bit more efficient than yesterday. If you wanna watch the big game in Perth with fellow MHFC Supporters then get down to The Gimp: http://www.facebook....74050702675222/ Edited October 15, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Huge danger game for us, 8-0 against them over the past 2 (frendly and final). Colosimo obviously out. Garrucio is back from Int. duty and Germano and Golgol will need to pass fitness tests. If Williams is still out I'd line up like this: Bolton Marrone - Vrankovic - Gray - Behich Gerhardt Thompson - Fred Mate - DMac - Garcia B: Redders, Hoff, Kalmar, Tadic If Willo is back: Bolton Marrone - Vrankovic - Gray - Behich Garcia Thompson - Fred Mate - DMac - Williams B: Redders, Gerhardt, Kalmar, Tadic If Germano is back, he'll likely be on the bench, as much as we'd love him to start... Edited October 15, 2012 by LR9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dearne Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 it will be a difficult one, but hopefully we have enough determination to prove ourselves after yesterday's game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Huge danger game for us, 8-0 against them over the past 2 (frendly and final). Colosimo obviously out. Garrucio is back from Int. duty and Germano and Golgol will need to pass fitness tests. If Williams is still out I'd line up like this: Bolton Marrone - Vrankovic - Gray - Behich Gerhardt Thompson - Fred Mate - DMac - Garcia B: Redders, Hoff, Kalmar, Tadic If Willo is back: Bolton Marrone - Vrankovic - Gray - Behich Garcia Thompson - Fred Mate - DMac - Williams B: Redders, Gerhardt, Kalmar, Tadic If Germano is back, he'll likely be on the bench, as much as we'd love him to start... Calling it early, but would love to see the following if Williams is still recovering: Bolton Marrone - Vrankovic - Gerhardt - Behich Garcia Thompson - Fred Dugandzic - MacAllister - Garrucio BENCH: Redmayne - Gray - Germano - Tadic If Williams is back, I would be tempted to put Garrucio on the bench and leave Gray out. Germano would be the nominated "backman on the bench". Germano is the most versatile guy to have on the bench for at minimum that reason, not to mention midfield dash. Hoffman hasn't showed why he deserves a spot even on the bench, and Kalmar was very unimpressive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Argeed Kalmar did his admirers and their crusade to have him selected over Matty T - No favours in his brief time on the pitch yesterday. Still at least 10x better than Hoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kalmar was being played centre forward yesterday. Hardly a performance that we can judge him fairly on. He did look a little sluggish and disinterested, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Kalmar was being played centre forward yesterday. Hardly a performance that we can judge him fairly on. He did look a little sluggish and disinterested, though. Well considering we have now both Fred and Garcia its not like he will be playing in his ideal spot either if he wants a spot in the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) We have a bit of a strange history against Perth. Our competitive match history includes 3 draws, 3 losses and 1 win. But in Perth we've drawn 2 (0-0, 1-1), won 1 (2-1) and lost 1 (last season's final, 3-0). We've played worse against Perth at AAMI Park, with 1 draw (2-2) and 2 losses (1-2, 1-2). I don't think much can be made of that preseason friendly. It was a preseason match, and it is not reflective of how the teams have played in their first 2 games. Perth haven't been scoring a lot (won their first game 1-0, and lost their second 0-1), and we haven't been conceding a lot (2-1 and 1-1). But, as always, history only means so much in football and anything can happen on the day. I don't think we need to be too daunted going into this match though, but it should be a competitive and entertaining game. I think the squad will stay the same except for LW and Colosimo's spot. Gray hasn't even made the bench, so I reckon Vrankovic will start in Colosimo's place. And I'm tipping Williams to get the nod for LW. Edited October 15, 2012 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 BOLTON HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN MACALLISTER Bench - HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN HOFFMAN Time to get back on the Hoff-train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 It seems very likely that Perth will at least start with predominantly the same tactics that worked so well in the practice game: press aggressively on our CBs and midfielders, forcing us to play speculative long balls and then be first to every second ball. We coped very poorly and were muscled out of the game. JA and pizza boy need to come up with an effective plan to disrupt this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 probably the first game this season we're i have no confidence whatsoever we can even come close to this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 probably the first game this season we're i have no confidence whatsoever we can even come close to this team We have pulled of the completely unexpected on the road before - Its not like we are playing Brazil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyospliff Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I reckon we will be lucky with a draw. Then again you never know what can happen, Hopefully Perth choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Very confident. 3-0. DMac, Fred, Tadic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 3 OGs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I honestly can't see us getting anything from the game in truth. We haven't shown in the past an ability to cope with teams like glory pressing us high. You never know though. Will have to improve tenfold on our performances in the first two rounds so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I honestly can't see us getting anything from the game in truth. We haven't shown in the past an ability to cope with teams like glory pressing us high. You never know though. Will have to improve tenfold on our performances in the first two rounds so far. did u guys finish your tifo for this game? If u can, get some one to take photos of it at the game when u unveil it n post em on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Putting finishing touches on it tonight actually. Will post some pictures when it's done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Putting finishing touches on it tonight actually. Will post some pictures when it's done. Post pictures after the game lol, or PM me them and I'll make sure they aren't seen publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 How do I send images in a private message?. She's all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 How do I send images in a private message?. She's all done. Click on the envelope in the top right corner mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Date: Saturday 21 October, 2012 Kick-off: 2pm WST, 5pm AEDT Venue: nib Stadium Head-to-head Played: 4 Wins: Glory 3, Heart 1, Draws: 0 Previous encounter Glory 3, Heart 0, 4 April 2012 Form: Past five matches: Glory: LWLWW Heart: DWLDD The Game Glory will have the bonus of taking on a Heart side without defender Simon Colosimo, who was sent off for handling the ball in last weekend's draw against Wellington Phoenix, while striker Shane Smeltz is expected to be back from international duties for the Kiwis. These teams are both pretty close to full fitness right now, with only long-term injuries to Glory duo Evan Berger (hamstring) and Chris Coyne (Achilles) keeping them out of the selection picture. Other than that, it's a full compliment to pick from. The big issue Perth Glory – Playing in the Western Australian capital makes last season's grand finalists an even tougher proposition. The Glory have won their past three home matches and with hot weather predicted on Saturday, their advantage will only be amplified. To accuse Glory of inconsistency just two rounds into the season is a little harsh but their two performances so far have been like chalk and cheese. Ian Ferguson's men were irrepressible in their opening round victory over Brisbane Roar but always looked like losing on Sunday as they fell 1-0 to Central Coast Mariners. Would the real Perth Glory please stand up? Melbourne Heart – For the opening two weeks John Aloisi's charges have been inefficient in front of goal. They wasted many chances in the 1-1 draw with the Wellington Phoenix last start when they created many opportunities with Richard Garcia, Fred and Josip Tadic all missing opportunities to snare a match winning goal. The performance mirrored the Victory match in week one, as Dylan Macallister and David Williams both scored but also failed to convert follow-up chances. Given Aloisi is a former Socceroos striker who scored 27 goals in 55 international appearances, Heart out of all A-League sides should be the least worried about finishing. Heart may not have so many chances in a tough away clash against the Western Australians. Gamebreaker Who else but the A-League's all-time goal scorer Shane Smeltz? The Kiwi sharpshooter scored a hat-trick to sink Melbourne Heart in the finals last season and contributed two goals against the red and white in September's pre-season friendly, a match Glory won 5-0. Prediction: Perth will start as deserved favourites but this really could go either way. Perth, second favourites for the championship, are a formidable side but they're susceptible to fast counter-attacks and that's one area the Heart can rightly claim to be better at - the pace of Mate Dugandzic and the poise of Richard Garcia can hurt teams when they least expect it. But on the other hand, the Heart's young defence will find it tough to deal with goal machine Shane Smeltz and his crafty strike partner Billy Mehmet, who scored Perth's only goal this season. We're tipping Glory to win 2-1 in an entertaining clash. http://www.sportal.com.au/football-news-display/preview-perth-glory-v-melbourne-heart-204190 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) Those statistics in the head to head are off. They only include last season, where Heart won 1 and lost 1 (2-1 and the final 0-3) at Perth and lost 2 in Melbourne (1-2 and 1-2). There were also 3 draws in our first season, 1 at AAMI Park (2-2) and 2 in Perth (0-0 and 1-1). The 'form' section is misleading as well, with the last 3 stats being matches played last season, I think. Looking over all the stats and matches I don't think we have ever really been outplayed by Perth. The 3 draws against them in our first season were all pretty awful matches (the first one with truly awful refereeing, where we should of won but Perth received a penalty for a dive in injury time). Last season we gifted them their first win at AAMI, with Thompson's terrible performance as CB. Then we had a solid win in Perth. The last match of the season proper was a poor 1-2 loss at AAMI, where I think we had Good and Hamill in defence. Finally, we were absymal in the finals and we played both Good and Hamill at once again. The analysis is pretty accurate IMO. The match could go either way, and it should be an entertaining game. I think if our defence can do a good enough job we can edge a win. If Gerhardt and probably Vrankovic are solid enough in the centre of defence and just keep Smeltz from being too influential we'll win. I've got faith Vrankovic, so I don't think we should doubt ourselves at all going into this match. Edited October 18, 2012 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 News that Smeltz might be out. If so the chances of us winning go dramatically up: Ferguson said Glory’s star striker, Shane Smeltz, would have to be assessed by the club’s medical staff after they received word that he had developed “hamstring tightness” playing for New Zealand in World Cup qualifying games. Smeltz represented the Kiwis against Tahiti in Papeete on Saturday and Christchurch on Tuesday, with the All Whites winning both games. Smeltz only came off the bench in the second game, midway through the second half. Ferguson said Smeltz arrived back in Perth last night. “Our physio was among the group that went out to the airport last night,” he said. “He was checking on Shane’s condition, and he’ll be further assessed today. I can’t be sure about his chances of playing on the weekend until we get a full report. “The word we got from him over in New Zealand was that he had a bit of hamstring tightness. I don’t know if he developed it in the first game against Tahiti or the second one, or whether he’s done anything significant to it. We’ll have to see him at training and go from there.” Perth will play Melbourne Heart at nib Stadium on Sunday. Ferguson said he had plenty of respect for Heart, which has beaten Melbourne Victory and drawn with Wellington Phoenix in the first two rounds. Glory has beaten Brisbane Roar and lost to Central Coast Mariners. “I think Johnny Aloisi has done a good job with them,” Ferguson said. “They’re good at controlling the game, through Richard Garcia, and breaking forward, through Fred and Matt Thompson, and they’re dangerous up front, with strikers like Dylan Macallister.” http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1124962/Ferguson-defends-Glory-tactics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 (edited) The analysis is pretty accurate IMO. The match could go either way, and it should be an entertaining game. I agree. Perth deserve to be favourites, but I don't think it will be as one sided as some might think. If Smeltz misses, I think we're a pretty good chance. If Williams is ok, I'd expect the same line up as round 1, with maybe Gray in for Colosimo - he's experienced and left sided so I've always had the feeling he was brought in as a straight replacement for whenever Colosimo is invariably injured or suspended. Vrankovic possibly on the bench again. Edited October 18, 2012 by Sash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Click on the envelope in the top right corner mate. Haha yeah I got that part down pat. Was more the attaching image I wanted to know how to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Haha yeah I got that part down pat. Was more the attaching image I wanted to know how to do. please send to me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Smeltz officially out. Big plus for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Smeltz officially out. Big plus for us Yep, this. Smeltz will probably miss the match next round as well, so there is effectively no chance of a last minute recovery. Of the 8 goals Perth scored against us over 4 games last season, Smeltz scored 6 of them (Memhet scored the other 2). Assuming we don't drop our game we should at least be good enough for a draw IMO, and the odds of us getting a win are much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Don't mind our chances on the counter attack in Perth. Grella, Germano and Colosimo back in the team soon too. Would like to see Tadic get some time a CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Melbourne Heart squad: 1. Clint Bolton (GK), 2. Michael Marrone, 5. Fred ©, 6. Patrick Gerhardt, 8. Matthew Thompson, 9. Dylan Macallister, 10. Josip Tadic, 11. Richard Garcia, 15. David Williams, 16. Aziz Behich, 17. Jason Hoffman, 18. David Vrankovic, 20. Andrew Redmayne (GK), 21. Steven Gray, 22. Nick Kalmar, 23. Mate Dugandzic *one to be omitted* So who will we leave out? Williams must come in. Following Simons suspension, i would guess Gray would make the bench. That may mean either Kalmar or Hoff will be dropped. Did we only travel to Perth with only one player to be omitted? What if we have a few last minute exclusions ala williams last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 So is "Shmiltz" definitely not playing on Sunday or are they just bullshitting us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Melbourne Heart squad: 1. Clint Bolton (GK), 2. Michael Marrone, 5. Fred ©, 6. Patrick Gerhardt, 8. Matthew Thompson, 9. Dylan Macallister, 10. Josip Tadic, 11. Richard Garcia, 15. David Williams, 16. Aziz Behich, 17. Jason Hoffman, 18. David Vrankovic, 20. Andrew Redmayne (GK), 21. Steven Gray, 22. Nick Kalmar, 23. Mate Dugandzic *one to be omitted* So who will we leave out? Williams must come in. Following Simons suspension, i would guess Gray would make the bench. That may mean either Kalmar or Hoff will be dropped. Did we only travel to Perth with only one player to be omitted? What if we have a few last minute exclusions ala williams last week? Hardly a mystery, Hoff will be dropped because his crap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Melbourne Heart squad: 1. Clint Bolton (GK), 2. Michael Marrone, 5. Fred ©, 6. Patrick Gerhardt, 8. Matthew Thompson, 9. Dylan Macallister, 10. Josip Tadic, 11. Richard Garcia, 15. David Williams, 16. Aziz Behich, 17. Jason Hoffman, 18. David Vrankovic, 20. Andrew Redmayne (GK), 21. Steven Gray, 22. Nick Kalmar, 23. Mate Dugandzic *one to be omitted* So who will we leave out? Williams must come in. Following Simons suspension, i would guess Gray would make the bench. That may mean either Kalmar or Hoff will be dropped. Did we only travel to Perth with only one player to be omitted? What if we have a few last minute exclusions ala williams last week? So presumably Germano and Golgol are still injured? If so just highlights how critical it is in a 27-game season and with list of 20 to focus on getting and keeping these little strain/sprain type injuries under intensive management. Sometimes wonder how serious these injuries really are when I see the knocks that AFL players take every week and yet they still come up. You miss 3 games in a 27-game season - over 10%. Cortisone and strapping...? Suggest it will be Kalmar omitted. He did not have much game time last week but he looked lost. Hoffman not popular on here but he has a bigger engine and is more versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Suggest it will be Kalmar omitted. He did not have much game time last week but he looked lost. Hoffman not popular on here but he has a bigger engine and is more versatile. You mean more versatile in playing like shit in different positions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 BVB out aswell, might chuck some quid on us to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) BVB out aswell, might chuck some quid on us to win. $20 on Melbourne (draw no bet) $3.12 $5 on Thompson and Behich to score anytime, pays $9.50/$11. And $1 on Thomo to score 2+ @ $101 Edited October 19, 2012 by LR9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Smeltz out is a big plus for us. We have to play at the same level that we have so far this season. It will be Kalmar dropped, because for some reason Hoff is loved by the coaches, I don't know why he is rubbish. Hopefully we can get Gol Gol and Germano back soon, I thought they only had one week injuries FFS. Would like some more transparency from the club, we don't deserve to be treated like idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hopefully we can get Gol Gol and Germano back soon, I thought they only had one week injuries FFS. Would like some more transparency from the club, we don't deserve to be treated like idiots AFAIK, technically they're no longer injured, just recovering and unfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 You mean more versatile in playing like shit in different positions? Well, since you put it like that...er, yes. AFAIK, technically they're no longer injured, just recovering and unfit. Same difference. The season will be half over before some of our blokes have come out of their cotton-wool packaging. Can't help thinking there's a bit too much mollycoddling going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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