Libero Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Hey guys, I'm the guy who got wrongfully banned. In case you were wondering, I was told I got the ban because I never denied lighting the flare to the police officer, even though I explicitly stated to him twice that I did not do it. EDIT: Also, thanks for all the helps guys! It really is appreciated hey mate... too bad about all this. what would happen if you bought a ticket and walked through the turnstiles? would an ACG gimp come and spear tackle you? they dont have 24 hour surveillance tracking anyone who has received a ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I just noticed there seems to be a typo in malloy's letter template It is for this reason that I will not be renewing my membership until there is evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual or the ban is rightfully rescinded. or It is for this reason that I will not be renewing my membership until evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual is demonstrated or the ban is rightfully rescinded. or something like that, doesnt really make sense otherwise. Yeah just edit it to something like (remove 'foundation' and just leave it as 'member' if you arent a foundation member) Dear Scott Munn As a foundation member of Melbourne Heart I am writing to you to inform you of my disappointment at the unjust and unfair banning of a fellow Melbourne Heart member. I find it utterly outrageous that the FFA have decided to ban the aforementioned person without evidence to prove that the alleged incident did actually occur and are relying upon the words of the ACG security, whom on many occasions have evicted innocent bystanders. I will reconsider renewing my membership next season unless evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual is demonstrated or the ban is rightfully rescinded. Regards, A concerned member would stick with mine tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 would stick with mine tbh Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I got a reply. Thank you for taking the time to send me an email outlining the concerns regarding Christian Russo. I have spoken to both FFA and MOPT this morning and am awaiting a return call from Victorian Police (Vic Pol). I think there are a few mistruths being circulated which I must clear up to start with. 1. There is cctv of the incident which Vic Pol have reviewed (this cannot be released to the general public, I am seeking to view the footage but have not seen it at this point) 2. Christian was interviewed by Vic Pol and at no point did he protest or state he did not light the flare. 3. There is no $2000 amount to appeal the ban and I am not sure where this has started. Once I receive the footage and have formed an opinion I will touch base. For the avoidance of doubt the FFA are very clear that they do not hand out 5 year bans without significant consultation with Vic Pol or based on speculation. Kind regards, SCOTT MUNN CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 IMO if there was enough evidence that the flare was lit by the unjustly accused vicpol would have given him a fine aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Got the same reply dRoy. He started mine with "Dear James and Dane" though. I'm James but who the fuck is this Dane charcter? Am I supposed to find him or is Munn fucking with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Correct. Did I dun goofed dem Engrish skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Got the same reply dRoy. He started mine with "Dear James and Dane" though. I'm James but who the fuck is this Dane charcter? Am I supposed to find him or is Munn fucking with me. I believe that would be dRoy? Lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Might be a bit late, but I emailed him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I believe that would be dRoy? Lol. Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 2. Christian was interviewed by Vic Pol and at no point did he protest or state he did not light the flare. Not sure where that came from as i was there... he denied it multiple times and 4 of us were talking to both ACG and the police about it for like 15 mins... FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusso_heart Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I sent him an email as well, telling him about the $2000 and the fact that i DID protest to lighting the flare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 3. There is no $2000 amount to appeal the ban and I am not sure where this has started. Told to read section 5 of the Grievance Resolution Regulations http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/site/_content/document/00000069-source.pdf 5.1 An Applicant must pay FFA a non-refundable application fee of $500. 5.2 A party wanting to appeal a Determination of an FFA Disciplinary Committee must pay an appeal fee of $2,000 in accordance with clause 16. 5.3 A hearing will not be convened unless and until the applicable fees have been received by FFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Who gave you that information about the Grievance Resolution Regulations? According to the link you provided, it doesnt say anything about spectators having to appeal to the FFA Disciplinary Committee. http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/site/_content/document/00000096-source.pdf This document shows the case that was heard by the FFADC regarding Muscats tackle on Zahra. Now if MVFC wanted to appeal that, then a $2000 fee would make sense. Now why the fuck with the FFADC be concerned with some unruly fans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 (edited) Who gave you that information about the Grievance Resolution Regulations? According to the link you provided, it doesnt say anything about spectators having to appeal to the FFA Disciplinary Committee. http://www.footballa...0096-source.pdf This document shows the case that was heard by the FFADC regarding Muscats tackle on Zahra. Now if MVFC wanted to appeal that, then a $2000 fee would make sense. Now why the fuck with the FFADC be concerned with some unruly fans?? The FFA legal department told us to refer to it... Edited June 30, 2012 by Seannist047 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) What is the status of this, I still have nae signed up. Can some guys from core please follow up. EDIT: If you lads haven't already sent something to the club, please do. Every voice counts. Edited July 4, 2012 by LR9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 We have been made aware that Scott Munn has received the footage of the incident (multiple angles in fact) and that he has organised to discuss it with the FFA at a scheduled time later in the week. Once again a big thanks to everyone and hopefully the right result prevails... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 If he gets off we can rip pyro in celebration! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCRC Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 Absolute quality work from all involved. Hope justice is served mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingawesomeness Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Barely on topic to this discussion, but just read this article from SOS about the way they're going about getting policing sorted for home/away games and ensuring police have been somewhat educated prior to working these games. Would this be something worthwhile in order to decrease the number of ACG guards that have no idea how to deal with football fans? http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/greater-manchester-police-meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Update on the situation? Did he get off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Last spoke to Scott Munn about a week and a half ago and he said that he had reviewed the footage and was still in talks with both the FFA and Victoria Police... Will hopefully hear something back soon however if not will touch base with him to see where it's at Hopefully it's all sorted out soon, especially as we're missing out on the membership price freeze... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolo Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Moving back to the original topic, in house security wouldnt actually be dobbing us in, but more controlling what acg do. This is much similiar to the Melbourne Victory Terrace, and they tend to work with the terrace more to get an outcome that everyones more happy with. Cause we all know that ACG do a crap job , maybe we need someone from heart to put them in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 Time to fuck these cunts off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spain82 Posted December 29, 2012 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 its ok, the trick is.... (don't tell anyone) ...pull a banner over u head, huddle in close rip pyro and wreck seats , then pull the flag back down again and act like nothing happened.... :ph34r: 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted December 29, 2012 Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 or even better just wear a ninja hoodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 ACG were atrocious this afternoon. Double standards galore. Couldn't even stand on the fence without ACG #053 pushing me off in a rather violent manner. Thugs, the lot of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah they were fucked, what happened at the end of the game when they surrounded you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I heard 053 hates the sound of children's laughter. He must hate his job, He must hate his job, 10 bucks an hour, He must hate his job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelawolf Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 more like 10 bucks a minute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Perhaps today. As its a public holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 lol, as if they get paid at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 lol, as if they get paid at all. not sure if srs or doesn't understand currency vs time worked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolo Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Loved when ticker yelled out 'he's only getting 10 bucks an hour' another priceless ticker moment. But they did look very double standard today. They weren't happy with the balls being thrown around either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Who gives a shit how they feel they are just upset because they don't know what it feels like for there balls to be played with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Boots! Boots! Boots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 We're having a party when ACG fold! We're having a party when ACG fold! We're having a party when ACG fold! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 They are a joke, get them out, was standing on the fence at the end of the game celebrating and one of the AGC muppets grabbed my shirt without warning and caused me to slip luckily there were people behind me to make sure i didnt hurt myself slipping. So how is standing on the fence more dangerous than getting pulled down without expecting it and slipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 How do we get them out? Is it a club led thing or FFA. I don't know the situation here so if lads could enlighten me it would be appreciated. If it is club led well instead of complaining on a forum lets fucking do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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