Murfy1 Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Fred Targets Australian Passport By Kathy Stone Oct 12 2012 EXCLUSIVE: Melbourne Heart skipper Fred wants to follow in the footsteps of fellow Brazilian Cassio and become an Australian citizen if he can extend his stay in the A-League. The midfield maestro’s contract with the expansion club runs out at the end of this season but with his young family settled in Melbourne, he hopes to secure a more permanent arrangement. A lot will depend on whether Heart offers the 33-year-old import another contract – something he says he would grab with both hands. Just last month Adelaide United left back Cassio celebrated his Aussie citizenship with family, friends and teammates at the Reds’ home ground, Hindmarsh Stadium. Now Fred, who has two daughters aged five and one, says he hopes to take a similar step. “If I stay here longer I will – it’s something I’ve been thinking about,” he said. “If we stay longer it’s better for the family to do the citizenship. “My wife (Debora) loves it here and my oldest one likes it here too. My little one is just one year – so she doesn’t know just yet.” Fred enjoyed a stellar season with Melbourne Victory in 2006-07 before signing for DC United in the MLS. After five years, he said, his family was keen to return to Australia. Injuries plagued his first season with Heart but now, close to full fitness following groin surgery, he’s keen to lead a team he believes can go all the way. “I think when you have a group with good players and good friendships in the group, everything goes well,” Fred said. “That’s why Melbourne Heart is very good – everyone’s like a family. When you win we win all together and when you’ve lost everyone’s lost. You never point the finger at any player. That’s why it’s very good. “Every club you play for is different – different players, different situation but I’m very happy for Melbourne Heart and I hope I can stay here for long.” Heart’s 2012-13 campaign got off to a blinder last week with a 2-1 win derby win over Victory, and Fred praised rookie coach John Aloisi for his meticulous preparation and ability to build a sense of belief in the player group. “He’s a very good coach even though they say he’s young but I think he does a very good job,” Fred said. “During (last) week he tried to put everything to us to show us about our opponent. “He got us very confident to play with his motivation before the game. Always he talk to us and give us confidence and I think this will help us during the season. “He say to us: Look guys, we had a good week, we had a long pre-season, and you guys are very good players, we can win the game so just believe it. These words can motivate everyone I think. “We feel we can do better than last year - we have more experienced guys in the team – but you always have to go step by step. “Now we have Wellington (Phoenix) in front of us. We try to do our best and try to win another game and this will give us more confidence as we play each game. Then we look forward to be in the Grand Final.” But he warned that visitors Phoenix – who he joined for a brief guest stint in 2008 – will be no pushovers on Sunday afternoon, despite losing half of their starting XI to a World Cup qualifier. “That makes it worse,” Fred said. “They come from the bench and they want to show they can start every game so this will be very difficult for us. "They are a very good team but I think if we play like we did against Victory we can do a good job.” http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/253283,fred-targets-australian-passport.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Real pleased to hear those comments from Fred. He sounds like someone who truly gets out there and plays for the shirt, and it's good to hear he is already hopeful of getting a contract extension with Heart. If he can stay mostly fit he simply is a must to resign. D-Mac also said Melbourne Heart is "like a family" and without any "big heads" in the dressing room. I think Heart could have a really strong season based on that team unity and solidarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 i hope this artical is true, only thing is i read an artical when he was playing for victory that said a very similar thing and 2 months later he was back in america. hopefully times have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 His much older now and probably only has 2 years in him max. Looking for a place to settle with his family. No better place than Melbourne town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 Fred adds so much to the team on the pitch it would be great to see him see out his career at Heart. Then maybe a coaching role to pass on his knowledge to our youth. He seems a quality bloke off the pitch and would be a great ambassador for Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Fred was pretty sloppy out there today. Can't see him going beyond this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Fred was pretty sloppy out there today. Can't see him going beyond this season. I'll reserve judgement until after a few more rounds yet. Fred has shown some great touches and has got stuck in, but yes, has looked sloppy at times. Hope he picks up consistency as his fitness builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Fred was pretty sloppy out there today. Can't see him going beyond this season. Agree. At times I think he wont be subbed off simply because he is 'Fred'. At times, even last year, he was too individual. He must love turning into trouble rather than giving the simple ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 He can't shoot. But he is still decent around the ground. Needs a few games to warm up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 It was good that he played a full game today (without cramping). He is a top midfielder, but he isn't lethal in front of goal. We shouldn't be relying on Fred for goals though, so that doesn't particularly concern me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 Was I watching another game? Most of what he did today was typically excellent. A couple of turnovers/missed opportunities in front of goal probably stand out because they're so unexpected. He may have tired in the second half though. It can happen when you cover the ground he does, and you're down a man, and you started pre-season later than others. I'd be shocked if he's not playing next year. Only injury will stop him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted October 14, 2012 Report Share Posted October 14, 2012 I agree with Sash to an extent. I thought his general play, holding the ball up, passing and creating space was superb. What I wanted to see from Fred was the ability to pull the trigger and blast a few at Spoonley when he had the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Absolutely useless in front of goal. He could've slotted that one on one so easily, then that "chip" he attempted was just laughable. He obviously doesn't believe in percentage play. His passing was great and he created a few chances ( ie. Dmacs spastic slice ) but at the end of the day I blame him more than colossimo for dropping the 2 points.. And I think his a good enough bloke to realize that himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Absolutely useless in front of goal. He could've slotted that one on one so easily, then that "chip" he attempted was just laughable. He obviously doesn't believe in percentage play. His passing was great and he created a few chances ( ie. Dmacs spastic slice ) but at the end of the day I blame him more than colossimo for dropping the 2 points.. And I think his a good enough bloke to realize that himself. 100% agree. What simon did was not that bad. a goal line "save" could have saved us a goal. had the resulting penalty been saved i bet nobody would be on simons back. he would have been praised for his great team work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Wow just wow. For 2 and a bit years now I've watched Colosimo play like a hack at the back. People still sing his praises. Can't pass, puts in terrible challenges and has a shit attitude. He has cost us so many games. I have a theory that he is Adrian Leijer in disguise. In contrast Fred is a super star and has largely been a one man midfield. Sure he scuffs a few shots but to say he was more liable for the loss than Colosimo. Just wow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Wow just wow. For 2 and a bit years now I've watched Colosimo play like a hack at the back. People still sing his praises. Can't pass, puts in terrible challenges and has a shit attitude. He has cost us so many games. I have a theory that he is Adrian Leijer in disguise. In contrast Fred is a super star and has largely been a one man midfield. Sure he scuffs a few shots but to say he was more liable for the loss than Colosimo. Just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Wow just wow. For 2 and a bit years now I've watched Colosimo play like a hack at the back. People still sing his praises. Can't pass, puts in terrible challenges and has a shit attitude. He has cost us so many games. I have a theory that he is Adrian Leijer in disguise. In contrast Fred is a super star and has largely been a one man midfield. Sure he scuffs a few shots but to say he was more liable for the loss than Colosimo. Just wow. Nah i'm not having that. This is the a-league and Colosimo is a reasonable Cb and unless we've got the funds to go get someone better its not worth complaining about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Didn't see too many complain about Simon after last weeks game. Second best player on the pitch that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Players should be judged not merely on what they do but on what they do relative to their potential. IMO too few of our players perform close enough to their maximum often enough, and the results of the past two seasons show that, as did Sunday's game. Just because Fred is Fred doesn't mean to say that he shouldn't be judged on the same criterion as any other player. Likewise Bolton and Colosimo. We should stop making excuses for what was a poor result against a half-strength Phoenix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Sorry but I also think that Colosimo is not a great defender. He may have the experience and physical strength, but he is too slow and commits fouls because he comes in late, he is not the right type of CB for the type of football we want to play. Plus I thought that he would not make a mistake like on Sunday based on his experience. I was disappointed with Fred because he was very inconsistent, brilliant one moment, terrible the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart>Victory Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 So his eye now his hamstring. His falling apart everywhere Hopefully should get a passport and be fit under the cap next season because as an international marquee it’s a bit embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballism Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Hopefully should get a passport and be fit under the cap next season because as an international marquee it’s a bit embarrassing Lucky he's not our international marquee then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart>Victory Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 a league wiki site has Fred as our inter marquee...didnt know its changed now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 read an article the other day that it's believed he's now being paid outside the cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 He should be released at the end of the present season. With a number of others who do not deliver to their potential often enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD. Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) a league wiki site has Fred as our inter marquee...didnt know its changed now Oh it's on wikipedia? must be true then... Edited October 29, 2012 by jdavisheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart>Victory Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Oh it's on wikipedia? must be true then... ok....so can u find anything that proves his not the marquee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 recruiting an over 30 year old injury prone player who is a former hero for our fiercest rivals and coming off an ordinary season in the MLS was a questionable decision by our club in the first place. ontop of that making him our captain was plain stupid IMO. i thought we were meant to differentiate ourselves from the tards? i think it confused many supporters of the red and white but nonetheless supported it because of his obvious technical talents. but can we honestly say that he is captain material or shown attributes of a captain since? i dont think so. now we have witnessed the downside of this recruitment. as we are so heavily reliant on him the minute he goes down shit hits the fan. having said that i hope his injury lay off is longer term as we can plan ahead and possibly look at dugandzic playing that role for the immediate future as its obvious that Fred wont last the season. he must relinquish the captaincy for the good of the club. or if the coaching staff have any balls or brains which looks like they possess neither by looking at recent match day performances than they should make the decision themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 recruiting an over 30 year old injury prone player ... was a questionable decision by our club in the first place Wasn't this said about Garcia and Grella and probably a few others too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 When Fred was signed JD said something along the lines that Fred '...is still in superb physical condition.' Yes, there were injury concerns about Richard Garcia. He downplayed them, and so far he's turned out to be a very good signing. If you remember, even JA had to be nursed though his season as a player with us. JA acknowledged that there were injury concerns about GolGol before he signed - the jury is still out on him. Vince Grella - the jury hasn't even been selected. We're never going to get these things right 100% of the time. No-one does. It would be interesting, however, to look at our injury statistics compared with the other clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caganer Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 We're never going to get these things right 100% of the time. No-one does. It would be interesting, however, to look at our injury statistics compared with the other clubs. PFA publishes an injury report annually. http://pfa.net.au/index.php?id=5&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=414&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=4&cHash=0ddf8a71b7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Wasn't this said about Garcia and Grella and probably a few others too? D-Mac also. Fred is good, just as good as Garcia. wouldnt expect him to score, hes not the best finisher obviously, and thats up to the strikers. if he chips in this year with at least 3 hes done his bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 PFA publishes an injury report annually. http://pfa.net.au/in...Hash=0ddf8a71b7 Thanks. The report for 2011-12 makes interesting reading. We're not the best, but not the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 fiz heart with a few more posts could rival markn and Heart of Melbourne in the jimmy rustling stakes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 fiz heart with a few more posts could rival markn and Heart of Melbourne in the jimmy rustling stakes You have to add my mate cadete in this one too. BTW can i half like fiz hearts post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) You have to add my mate cadete in this one too. BTW can i half like fiz hearts post? All I want to know Markn is why??? Why do u even bother coming on a Forum, where the only the feedback you receive towards your posts is negative? You are the Jason Akermanis of this forum, every single opinion you post about MHFC on here is universally and automatically opposed by 90% of all posters. Dont you think if the whole army is always marching to the tune of one beat and yourself always alone to the tune of another, that just perhaps you opinions may not be as valid and correct as you think they are??? Edited October 30, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Markn presents some interesting counterpoints here. Some are a little left field, but I think over all he makes the forum an interesting place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Some are a little left field And by that you mean terribly, terribly incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Wasn't this said about Garcia and Grella and probably a few others too? Yes but they're not international marquees hence my point. Garcia was always gonna be a very handy player and Vinnie is just Vinnie. Plus they're both on one year contracts. Fred was given the keys to the club. Fucked if i know why! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 And by that you mean terribly, terribly incorrect? A little off topic but i'm happy to go there. I may not always be right .......and i may not always be wrong..... but i always encourage logical rebutals. Sometimes a rebut helps raise points i never knew existed. Barring a select few, i rarely receive any logical rebutals. (cadete is not included in my select few ) For someone with less than 200 posts, i'm a fairly 'popular' man. Everyone kept telling galileo he was wrong. I therefore must be galileo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.